Post by: Hoythunter on May 13, 2018, 07:38:45 PM
Anyone have experience with SilencerCo. products? I’m working on my application right now so hopefully I’m still excited 7-9 months down the road when I’m finally able to purchase. I’ve heard processing time has improved? :dunno:
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 13, 2018, 11:15:12 PM
Post by: b23 on May 13, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
Since 41F passed back in July 2016 using a "Trust" isn't as beneficial as it was before 41F passed. The wait times for filing as an individual are coming back much faster than for those who used a trust. Individual filed form 4's are coming back in 6-9 months and those who are using a trust are coming back in 9-12+.
Most everyone makes a good suppressor, but if you want the quietest and lightest cans on the market, be prepared to pay a little more for them. I'm very partial to TBAC suppressors, but I have SAS and Dead Air cans as well and they've all been great.
Post by: CP on May 14, 2018, 06:40:00 AM
http://www.nfatracker.com/nfa-transfer-time-tracking/
They have improved as you can see
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 15, 2018, 06:57:12 PM
One of the, multiple, sucky things about purchasing a suppressor is that you have to pay for the can and the $200 tax stamp upfront, then sit and wait 6-12 months before you get to take it home with you and if you purchase a suppressor from a shop out of state, your wait time is even longer.
Since 41F passed back in July 2016 using a "Trust" isn't as beneficial as it was before 41F passed. The wait times for filing as an individual are coming back much faster than for those who used a trust. Individual filed form 4's are coming back in 6-9 months and those who are using a trust are coming back in 9-12+.
Most everyone makes a good suppressor, but if you want the quietest and lightest cans on the market, be prepared to pay a little more for them. I'm very partial to TBAC suppressors, but I have SAS and Dead Air cans as well and they've all been great.
I bought a TRUST so my wife can use it if she wishes and they can be passed down to my boy without any BS. I also carry a laminated card with the tax stamp and ID number of each CAN in my wallet.
Post by: pashok23 on May 16, 2018, 10:02:53 AM
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Post by: b23 on May 16, 2018, 11:57:00 AM
Can you some how switch from individual to trust?Without headaches
You can purchase them either way or even both at the same time, it makes no difference.
Doing your Form 4 as an individual then passing your items on to someone after you croak is not that big of a deal. There's a lot of misconception out there with regard to suppressor ownership.
Post by: Yondering on May 17, 2018, 04:00:32 PM
Can you some how switch from individual to trust?Without headaches
If you've already bought it as an individual and want to switch to a trust, no, not without the headaches you mention. That would be considered another transfer, and require all the paperwork and another $200 tax stamp. That's because you and the trust are separate legal entities.
Post by: fly-by on May 17, 2018, 04:57:17 PM
Post by: pashok23 on May 17, 2018, 09:15:53 PM
And it can be in my hands while im switching to trust?Can you some how switch from individual to trust?Without headaches
If you've already bought it as an individual and want to switch to a trust, no, not without the headaches you mention. That would be considered another transfer, and require all the paperwork and another $200 tax stamp. That's because you and the trust are separate legal entities.
Post by: b23 on May 17, 2018, 11:02:49 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 18, 2018, 07:10:07 AM
Post by: pashok23 on May 18, 2018, 01:34:20 PM
Curious, why would you spend another $200 to change ownership over to a trust?Just for the future,to pass it to my kids.
Post by: b23 on May 18, 2018, 02:02:42 PM
Curious, why would you spend another $200 to change ownership over to a trust?Just for the future,to pass it to my kids.
Willing a suppressor to a family member is relatively simple process and is a free transfer to the beneficiary as he/she is named in your will to get whatever specific NFA items you are passing on to them.
There is nothing wrong with using a Trust, that's what I used but I also had mine setup as well as purchased all my suppressors before 41F was passed so I didn't have to do all the "responsible person" stuff for any and all that I have added to my trust. It's not a big deal, but now, every single person that is added to a trust that is used to purchase NFA items has to go through all the same paperwork/fingerprint cards/passport photos, as the person creating the trust. If you Google "41F Responsible Person" you'll find everything you need to know.
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/final-rule-41f-background-checks-responsible-persons-effective-july-13
Post by: Mongo Hunter on May 21, 2018, 03:11:15 PM
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Post by: Mongo Hunter on May 22, 2018, 08:48:05 AM
Interesting thread, having just used suppressors for the first time in Africa, I'm curious about getting them hear, I know my kids shot very well with the rifles that had them on them. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed shooting them as well.
I recently went out with a friend of mine. He had family in from Germany with little to no firearms experience. Silencers were a great way to warm them up to the idea of shooting. It was already hard enough with a language barrier, bringing the muzzle blast and sound down made things easier for sure. We know AR's for example are easy to shoot, but they sound big and powerful. I really wish they would pass the HPA, it would open up more people to shooting I think in a positive way.
Post by: jasnt on May 22, 2018, 07:05:26 PM
agreadInteresting thread, having just used suppressors for the first time in Africa, I'm curious about getting them hear, I know my kids shot very well with the rifles that had them on them. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed shooting them as well.
I recently went out with a friend of mine. He had family in from Germany with little to no firearms experience. Silencers were a great way to warm them up to the idea of shooting. It was already hard enough with a language barrier, bringing the muzzle blast and sound down made things easier for sure. We know AR's for example are easy to shoot, but they sound big and powerful. I really wish they would pass the HPA, it would open up more people to shooting I think in a positive way.
Post by: time2hunt on May 26, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
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Post by: hunting4sanity on May 26, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Post by: jjness11 on May 27, 2018, 10:27:51 AM
One problem with doing a trust, is that every time someone on the trust wants to purchase a NFA item, EVERYONE on the trust must submit another set of passport photos and fingerprint cards.
For anyone wanting to get a NFA item, I would recommend getting an extra set of fingerprint cards and passport photos. I haven't met many people with only one NFA item, and its only a couple extra bucks for two extra sets.
Post by: time2hunt on June 14, 2018, 03:13:47 PM
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