Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Other Big Game => Topic started by: 280ackley on March 14, 2009, 09:07:44 AM
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Hunt Wa members did pretty good on the Oyrx draw. My Dad and I drew the Rhodes Canyon for the end of next February. :whoo:
Congrats again to Bearhunter who drew the January hunt in the same area.
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Yep congrats to you guys!!! Im excited to go spot for bearhunter, just wish they werent anal about cameras and such!! Would be nice to get some pics and some good video down there!!! Good luck Justin
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what are you guys talking about? i know what the animal is but what draw are you guys referring to?
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The draw that New Mexico has to hunt Oryx on the White Sands Missile Range.
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so this is some sort of high fence hunt then ?
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Its a hunt for Oryx on the white sands missile range...Lots of em down there and is in no way a high fenced hunt...Free range inside the missile range!!
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so this is some sort of high fence hunt then ?
Nope, free range.
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Might have to look to put a high fence around the house to keep the tweekers out after getting mine mounted!
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And me!!!
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Never heard of an "Oryx", what is it?
:dunno:
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african antelope lookin thing
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Google it. The world wide web is an amazing thing and information on nearly every subject is endless.
Congratulations! How much does it cost to apply each year?
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In that area I would be carring my AR. :o
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theres gotta be some sort of fence around that missile range.
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Is there some type of fence on the WSMR, probably somewhere. Here is quote from the New Mexico Game and Fish "Since there are no significant barriers to their movement, they have dispersed approximately 100 miles in all directions to private land and land managed by the U.S. Army, National Park Service, Fish and Wildlife Service, Department of Agriculture, and Bureau of Land Management."
Here is a link: http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/education/wildlife_notes/documents/NoteOryxSm.pdf
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I've heard thru the grapevine that your permit is invalid cuz your dad drew his sheep tag last year. :rolleyes:
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Oh no its still valid. :chuckle: I even double checked this morning to make sure I saw it right the other night.
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i just did some research on these things in new mexico. how foolish the government was ! lets just release a non native antelope in new mexico that should be fine :bdid: my question about the fence wasn't a jab at you guys (if some one wants to hunt i fence i don't care) it was because i couldn't imagine some one letting a non native species run rampant. i hope you guys kill one sounds like they all need to be killed
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Bear Hunter,
Are you going to use the old stick and string?
You need a spotter for your trip?
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I really would like to, I think what I will do is give it a go the first day, and have the rifle close by in case that 41" shows him self :) Ive got 2-3 interested in going, Ive got to find out how many are allowed in, and fiqure on who can really go, ill keep you posted. James
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COOL
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wouldn't quite consider this a high fenced hunt littlebuf. If you have ever been to whitesands or the missle range down there. You could spend a better part of your life trying to hike across it. I actually don't remeber it being fenced but I could be wrong.
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Bones right, not a high fence hunt, its a barbwire fence, they can leave the base, there is oryx off the base also. I believe there may be a draw for them as well, could be wrong.
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Yes, there are off base hunts also. Not sure if they are land owner tags or draw hunts though.
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I also got the Rhodes Canyon tag for the end of January. It must have been a good year for Washington hunters.
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Here is an Oryx. (also known as a Gemsbok).
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Congratulations for getting the draw! I use to live in Las Cruces and we would see the Gemsbok along the road on the way to the White Sands National Monument or to the Lincoln National forest for Turkey season. They are beautiful animals and make a stunning mount.
If you are looking for a taxidermist, make sure you get one who knows how to do African game. There are differences between African animals and North American ones so just because someone can do great whitetails, does not mean that they will be able to get an African animal right. Don't go cheap on a mount when you get a once in a lifetime draw.
I am having mine done by Jerry Huffaker in Abilene Texas. He does great work. I'll have my mounts in the next 6-8 weeks and I'll post some photos when they arrive.
http://www.huffakertaxidermy.com/
Another taxidermist who does great work is Artistry of Wildlife.
http://www.artistryofwildlife.com/
Make your taxidermy decision before you go so you know what to do with the hide when you shoot it. Most of the taxidermist will provide you with shipping directions as well as care instructions.
Best to know how you want it mounted prior to caping it out too. Gemsbok make a fantastic pedestal mount. If you go that route you will want to cape out mid body rather than at the shoulders to allow for the extra skin needed for the form.
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I've hunted gemsbok in Africa, and I can tell you it's a great hunt. Watch the shot placement, the thickness of the neck tends to make you want to shoot low. PM me and I can tell you who did my African mounts, close by real good work at a reasonable cost.
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Thanks for the great info guys, it gonna be a long 10 month wait. This pose would be sweet!!
http://www.artistryofwildlife.com/800_07_DSCN1165.jpg
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No kidding on shot placement. Once you screw up that first shot, you very likely will be in for several follow up shots. African animals are tough, thick skinned, big, and have amazing endurance.
I placed a really lousy shot on my Gemsbok and had to follow it up with 7 more shots. Granted, two were misses, but 3 were center of mass at 30 yards. From a .338! That bull took 6 bullets total before he was down and out. Raised my average shots per animal up to 2.11 too. It would have been at 1.333 had I dropped him with that first shot. Grrr
A couple of you could go in together and go with a mount like the one below. you could rotate it like a bowling trophy...
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Sorry, had one more thought...
I found the gemsbok to be perhaps the most difficult to judge trophy size on. So hopefully the MP's or whoever guides you will be a good judge.
Both Bulls and Cows have horns. Cows horns are much longer than the Bulls, but they are thinner. Bulls horns are shorter, but have a lot more mass. Both make stunning mounts and I was torn between shooting a cow or a bull.
When looking at them from a distance, it is really hard to tell length with the way those horns go straight back. About the only way I could come close to judging a trophy, or tell a bull from a cow, was to look at thickness and length when compared to the rest of the herd. Also try looking at horn length relative to the body length, but that of course does not always work when you are looking at a smaller bodied animal...
I'm jealous! You guys will have a great hunt!
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Thanks for the help Rob.
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African animals vitals are farther forward then ours. You simply need to shoot strait up the front leg lower third of the body.(heart shot) That is from the African Perfect Shot Manual. Just remember not in the crease behind the front shoulder but strait up the front leg. That is where I arrowed my Bull at 34 yards and he ran about 70!!! A complete pass though using a 100gr Silver Flame!!! ;)
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That is a beautiful animal, and a great photo.
Bull, right? How long did he go? What country?
Nice Kudu in your Avitar as well.
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This is what I was talking about regarding selecting a trophy Gemsbok.
hit these links and decide which ones to shoot:
http://www.musicactive.co.za/images/Addo-Eco-Estate-Resort/gemsbok.jpg
http://www.ravenwear.ca/beautiful_landscape_with_gemsbok.jpg
http://www.monteco.co.za/gemsbok1.jpg
http://www.namibiasafari.info/images/etosha_pan_gemsbok.jpg
http://www.capetownroutes.com/images-pictures-calendar-south-africa/capetown/gemsbok_nationalpark.jpg
Some are easy to weed out, but others require a pretty keen eye.
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I took my Bull in R.S.A. He was 34". I only saw one more Bull about this size the rest were smaller. The other guy in my camp took a 32". They are VERY hard to judge. You see a herd of Gemsbok and they all look like their horns are 3 feet tall!!! If you are trying to harvest a Bull it is even more difficult!!!
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That is a nice bull.
All four of us took one on our hunt. Mine was the smallest at 31.5. My buddies was 32.5, and his Dad's was 32. My Dad got the big one on our trip taking a 35 incher. It is funny when you look at them though, mine looks bigger because the horns are close together. his looks smaller but the are splayed out and are nearly 4 inches longer! Mine did not make SCI minimums, but the other three went Bronze.
See what I mean in these photos? I think mine looks the same size or maybe a bit bigger, but in reality his is significantly larger.
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Sorry to revive this thread, but I thought it better than starting a new one.
For any of you folks who drew the NM Oryx hunt, There is an article in latest issue of The Safari Club Magazine that might be of interest.
He was doing a badge hunt (meaning he had to know someone stationed on the base to hunt the land) and had a pretty challenging hunt.
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I just watched a hunting show last night where somebody shot one down there in New Mexico. Looked like there is quite a few of them runnin around there!!
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New Mexico has done well for themselves by investing in these game animals (along with Barbary Sheep in the plains and Persian Ibex in the Florida Mountains) over the last half century. I spent some time there last year and am really impressed with the quality of animals I've seen. Unfortunately I didn't read the fine print in the regs that the app deadline for Oryx is a month before the general hunt :bash:
They say that oryx is a darned tasty meal. Lots of 'em in that range, too. You're correct, testar: most hunters have no problem tagging out in a day or two.
I am headed to New Mexico this weekend for some coyote and feral hog hunting.
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I just got back from New Mexico. Here is a pic of my Oryx. She was the number two cow for the hunt and my dad killed the number one bull for the hunt. Thanks to everyone who had sent me info throughout the year.
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Very nice Oryx Bearmartin! It sure was worth the wait wasnt it. Way to go she must be pushing 39" huh?
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Congrats on the nice Oryx!!
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Nice work Mr. Martin. Looks like you and your dad had a successful trip.
Is that three for Hunt-Wa members this year?
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outstanding! How long are those horns?
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very nice
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nice job! i saw a picture of your dad's bull the other day. you should see if he will let you put a pic of it on here. it's a dandy too. your cow was a little over 38'' right?
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Great looking Oryx Bearmartin! That is a dandy for sure. Congrats!
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That is a great looking oryx. Rhodes Canyon did well for us locals this year. Congratulations.
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Thanks everyone. Goodtime, pushing 39" as bearhunter asked is a little more accurate then "a little over 38". :)
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That's one hell of an Oryx bearmartin.
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yeah great pics great animal just saw this for the first time wow