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Title: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Salmonstalker on June 11, 2018, 11:25:24 AM
I'm looking at CVA for a new muzzleloader, and due to the restrictions being lifted, I am beginning to look into a #209 conversion kit. My question is, are there a bunch of different kinds? Are they specific to certain makes and models of guns? Any info would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: bobcat on June 11, 2018, 11:30:56 AM
Since you're buying a new CVA, there's no need for a conversion kit. Just buy one that's already set up for 209 primers.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: kselkhunter on June 11, 2018, 11:31:53 AM
Since you're buying a new CVA, there's no need for a conversion kit. Just buy one that's already set up for 209 primers.
:yeah:
It's just a different breech plug to go between 209, musket cap, etc. for CVAs.  At least for the Accura/Optima/Wolf models. 
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Killmore on June 11, 2018, 11:41:28 AM
And I believe also the firing pin needs changing
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: kselkhunter on June 11, 2018, 11:47:00 AM
And I believe also the firing pin needs changing
No.  I didn't change my firing pin. 

Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 11, 2018, 12:03:02 PM
And I believe also the firing pin needs changing
No.  I didn't change my firing pin. 

If you are running a optima/wolf/accura you need to change the firing pin for sure.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Salmonstalker on June 11, 2018, 03:48:30 PM
Sooooo...... kinda getting mixed stories here....
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: bobcat on June 11, 2018, 04:01:51 PM
Sooooo...... kinda getting mixed stories here....

You're buying a new gun. Buy one that uses 209 primers, which will be most. No conversion will be necessary. I believe the only states left that don't allow 209 ignition is Oregon and Idaho. So the standard, inline muzzleloader is made for 209 primers, and 209 primers only.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 11, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
Sooooo...... kinda getting mixed stories here....

I just did 3 and am a CVA Dealer :tup:
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Reidus on June 11, 2018, 07:01:07 PM
Why not get one that uses Large rifle primers that'll shoot a 300gr bullet at 2400fps and will outshoot most rifles?
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Sabotloader on June 11, 2018, 08:00:40 PM
Why not get one that uses Large rifle primers that'll shoot a 300gr bullet at 2400fps and will outshoot most rifles?

Primers really do not have that much to do with velocity.  Velocity is still a product of powder load and projectile weight.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Reidus on June 11, 2018, 08:13:13 PM
Isn't a large rifle primer less corrosive/cleaner than a 209?
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Sabotloader on June 12, 2018, 07:02:34 AM
Isn't a large rifle primer less corrosive/cleaner than a 209?

I think you may be correct on the cleaner part... but I really did not like continually de-capping and recapping cartridge cases to shoot with.  If you are shooting 209 primers - shoot the mildest primer you can.  Wish they still made the Remington 209-4 primer.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: treeclimber2852 on July 01, 2018, 08:49:07 PM
So, just to be clear- by allowing 209 the state did away with the whole “exposed cap” thing right?  CVA doesn’t make a Northwest 209 conversion that I’m aware of. 
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: kselkhunter on July 01, 2018, 09:03:39 PM
Correct.  Exposed to the elements was removed from the regs.
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: huntnnw on July 10, 2018, 12:24:00 AM
I just converted my CVA optima, the pin has to be changed and breech plug has options. If you plan to shoot blackhorn powder you need the blackhorn breech plug
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: Salmonstalker on July 11, 2018, 02:19:09 PM
I just converted my CVA optima, the pin has to be changed and breech plug has options. If you plan to shoot blackhorn powder you need the blackhorn breech plug

Did you have to purchase the breach plug and pin separately, or did they come with the gun?
Title: Re: #209 primer conversion
Post by: huntnnw on July 15, 2018, 10:31:59 PM
purchased mine separately as my gun was WA legal when I got it
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