Post by: Alex4200 on June 16, 2018, 02:42:21 PM
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on June 16, 2018, 03:15:27 PM
I'm not holding out hope here. It is all about good old boy politics.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 16, 2018, 03:28:05 PM
Post by: huntnphool on June 16, 2018, 04:22:04 PM
Post by: Katmai Guy on June 16, 2018, 04:23:45 PM
Post by: Wacenturion on June 16, 2018, 04:34:42 PM
"All of the commissioners look forward to a fresh start for WDFW under Kelly's leadership, particularly in the approach our agency takes to improving our working relationships with the Legislature, native American tribes, and the people of Washington to manage the state's wonderful fish and wildlife resources," said Commission Chairman Brad Smith.
Do you see the word "sportsman" anywhere in that statement? It seems to me to be self explanatory if one considers his background and experience. Pretty much an environmentalist I would guess. So to answer your question.....probably not.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on June 16, 2018, 04:37:30 PM
“He also worked several years during the 1980s as a private-sector environmental consultant.“
Post by: j_h_nimrod on June 16, 2018, 04:39:08 PM
Post by: Tbar on June 16, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Post by: KFhunter on June 16, 2018, 04:45:27 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 16, 2018, 05:00:23 PM
Post by: Special T on June 16, 2018, 05:30:00 PM
Store and quan were the other 2 choices in the top 3. In the discussions I've heard Store is part of current issues and Quan wasn't a good option for sportsmen.
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Post by: Special T on June 16, 2018, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from Commission chairman.......The chairman is a friend to sportsmen. I cannot say that for all the commisioners.
"All of the commissioners look forward to a fresh start for WDFW under Kelly's leadership, particularly in the approach our agency takes to improving our working relationships with the Legislature, native American tribes, and the people of Washington to manage the state's wonderful fish and wildlife resources," said Commission Chairman Brad Smith.
Do you see the word "sportsman" anywhere in that statement? It seems to me to be self explanatory if one considers his background and experience. Pretty much an environmentalist I would guess. So to answer your question.....probably not.
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Post by: Special T on June 16, 2018, 05:33:05 PM
This sucks. This guy interviewed me for a job at Ecology 10 years ago. He told me to my face that I had no chance for the job because I didn't have a PE license. The job was for an environmental geologist with no PE requirement and I was over qualified for the position. He also told me that people without a PE really were not scientists since engineers have a better grasp of it because of their math education. I almost puked. The other two in the interview tried to crawl under the table since they both wanted to hire me.commissioners. Makes me cry because I know of at least one person on the broad list whom would have been a great asset.
I'm not holding out hope here. It is all about good old boy politics.
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 16, 2018, 05:37:28 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on June 16, 2018, 06:05:14 PM
Post by: Stein on June 16, 2018, 07:35:35 PM
Career Environmentalist. That doesn't sound good.
That's what I noticed, zero experience in biology, fish or game. Plus, not even a real engineer to boot wapiti hunter. :chuckle:
Post by: wapiti hunter2 on June 16, 2018, 07:46:36 PM
Seriously, I am really trying to see how he was the best candidate. If I had a pool where he was the best, I would rewrite the job description and hunt again. Has anyone seen the job posting/description? Shouldn't there have been at least something about experience managing wildlife?
Post by: nwwanderer on June 16, 2018, 09:17:44 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 16, 2018, 11:11:25 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see any indicators this will be good for the hunters of Washington!
Post by: wolfbait on June 17, 2018, 09:23:25 AM
So he is a geological engineer, with a career in the Dept. of Ecology. Perfect for the head of WDFW. I get the logic from way out here in Yelm.
Seriously, I am really trying to see how he was the best candidate. If I had a pool where he was the best, I would rewrite the job description and hunt again. Has anyone seen the job posting/description? Shouldn't there have been at least something about experience managing wildlife?
Unsworth supposedly had a background in wildlife management, he worked for IDFG for several years, look where that got us.
WDF&Wolves are in a race to the bottom, needs to be a lawsuit to change the direction, expose the corruption.
Post by: Bob33 on June 17, 2018, 09:35:43 AM
I suspect a vast majority of the public doesn't even know what WDFW is. For those who do I doubt their expectations are high.
If he manages well and listens to the right people, he can succeed. Given that only 4% of our population hunts, our voice is small.
Post by: Tbar on June 17, 2018, 09:41:05 AM
Good luck trying to get hunters in this state to mobilize. More likely to cannibalize and further the agenda.So he is a geological engineer, with a career in the Dept. of Ecology. Perfect for the head of WDFW. I get the logic from way out here in Yelm.
Seriously, I am really trying to see how he was the best candidate. If I had a pool where he was the best, I would rewrite the job description and hunt again. Has anyone seen the job posting/description? Shouldn't there have been at least something about experience managing wildlife?
Unsworth supposedly had a background in wildlife management, he worked for IDFG for several years, look where that got us.
WDF&Wolves are in a race to the bottom, needs to be a lawsuit to change the direction, expose the corruption.
Post by: WSU on June 17, 2018, 09:50:08 AM
Degree from WSU, no chance the current cougar plan gets revised now
I have a degree and would change the plan in a heart beat. Hopefully he improves things.
Post by: huntnphool on June 17, 2018, 03:16:20 PM
Degree from WSU, no chance the current cougar plan gets revised now
I have a degree and would change the plan in a heart beat. Hopefully he improves things.
The point being he is a like minded coworker and friend of Wielgus. ;)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 17, 2018, 04:34:16 PM
Post by: bigtex on June 17, 2018, 04:48:15 PM
Agency directors are politicians there's no doubt about it. The WDFW Director needs to be good at working with the legislature (which Unsworth sucked at, former WDFW LE Chief Bjork was fantastic at it), budgeting, and managing his people (again what Unsworth sucked at.) If he is good at those three things it'll be a great improvement.
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Post by: Bushcraft on June 18, 2018, 01:48:06 PM
I can assure you that Dirctor Susewind is a serious hunter and angler and will take our input seriously. He has taken on a tremendously challenging job and will need our help and input. Let’s give the guy a chance! While you’re at it, tell the Commissioners that we appreciate them not making a horrible decision by hiring some of the others on the slate of applicants. We literally dodged a bullet.
As SCI's Regional Representative for this state, as well as an International Director, I can assure you that the backgrounds of nearly all the applicants for WDFW's Director position were researched extensively. We make it our business to know these sorts of things for the benefit of all hunters and anglers and our influential allies. Read into that what you will.
With that said, please consider joining SCI (and 1 of the 6 chapters near you!), so that we can continue to grow our already significant influence for hunting and hunters in Washington and beyond.
www.sci-washington.com
Best regards,
Allen
Post by: WSU on June 18, 2018, 01:51:21 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2018, 01:53:45 PM
I wonder why the WDFW didn't mention that in the news release?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on June 18, 2018, 01:58:04 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on June 18, 2018, 02:05:48 PM
Post by: Bob33 on June 18, 2018, 02:17:33 PM
It’s true – just check out the posts on Hunt WA.
Post by: Bushcraft on June 18, 2018, 02:42:57 PM
Allen- that's great news! It was a question I hadn't seen answered yet, if the new director was a hunter and/or fisherman. Thanks for posting that.
I wonder why the WDFW didn't mention that in the news release?
It's anyone's guess as to why they didn't mention that he is an avid sportsman. Perhaps they didn't want to get Inslee's panties in too much of a bunch.
Post by: bearpaw on June 18, 2018, 02:49:38 PM
Allen- that's great news! It was a question I hadn't seen answered yet, if the new director was a hunter and/or fisherman. Thanks for posting that.
I wonder why the WDFW didn't mention that in the news release?
It's anyone's guess as to why they didn't mention that he is an avid sportsman. Perhaps they didn't want to get Inslee's panties in too much of a bunch.
Huge relief, thanks for the info, I had thought we got the bullet! Glad to read your info! :tup:
BTW: I'm a life member of national and a life member of Spokane! :tup:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 18, 2018, 02:56:38 PM
I think we got lucky getting a sportsman, that doesn't mean he's good, but if he didn't have those qualifications odds are less that he'd be good.
Hopefully he's good at interacting with Washington legislators, I do think that is good experience a Washington state bureaucrat is most likely to have.
Hopefully, he will put together a robust contingency plan of how to do the best job possible with the financial resources available, and not just the unending squawk of not enough funding and handwringing that has defined WDFW since Koenings took the helm. That will require prioritizing mission over positions if that is what it takes to have the funding to accomplish the mission. I'd much rather have a staff of 1,500 with the resources to do the job in the field, than a staff of 1,900 sitting at PCs and sending emails because they don't have gas money to get out in the field. I've seen both realities.
Post by: Bushcraft on June 19, 2018, 10:42:33 AM
Post by: James on June 19, 2018, 12:09:53 PM
"The public has high expectations for WDFW, and I'm excited about being in a position to deliver the results they deserve."
I suspect a vast majority of the public doesn't even know what WDFW is. For those who do I doubt their expectations are high.
If he manages well and listens to the right people, he can succeed. Given that only 4% of our population hunts, our voice is small.
Agreed we are a small part of the population in that regard, but Sportsmen/women fund a huge percentage of WDFW's budget either directly or indirectly. I think that's where much of the contempt between sportsmen and WDFW come from, we pay our way, but others that don't pay their dues get more sway than they should.
I hope this guy comes in and kicks arse and takes names; makes WDFW the competent, respected, steward of fish, game, wildlife and sportsmen that we deserve. But my fear is it's going to take a lot more than a director change to get there.
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 19, 2018, 12:24:52 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on June 19, 2018, 01:00:57 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 19, 2018, 01:13:03 PM
I'm much more optimistic about this choice knowing that he is a sportsman. No doubt the guy has a very tough job to do, the agency is a mess in so many ways, nobody is happy with WDFW, but the right person with some leadership, management, budgeting, and negotiating skills could be very successful because there is so much room for improvement. I really wish him good luck and hope he can fix some of this mess!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 19, 2018, 01:22:55 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 19, 2018, 01:37:07 PM
Move outta state........... :tup:
That's probably the smartest and easiest answer. :tup:
Post by: baldopepper on June 19, 2018, 02:15:42 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 19, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
I'm surprised they could find anyone crazy enough to take that job. No win job, so many different, adamant opinions about how wdfw should be run and what priorities it has that at best you might be able to satisfy about 1/3 of the people with strong opinions. Just look at our own forum here that is made up of people with at least some thoughts in common-introduce a post with even a little controversy and you get a ton of very strong opinions and some very vile responses. Good luck to him, hope he's thick skinned and wearing a hat with a bunch of miracles he can pull out of it. .
:yeah: Totally agree, but there is so much room for improvement that a talented and smart leader could really build quite a lot of respect from all sides.
Post by: KFhunter on June 19, 2018, 05:33:48 PM
I'm now cautiously optimistic and hoping for the best.