Post by: b23 on July 03, 2018, 09:47:11 AM
For me it was an easy one and really the only one that came to mind, Colt 1911.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 03, 2018, 09:50:06 AM
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Post by: N7XW on July 03, 2018, 09:53:24 AM
Modern - AR15
Historically - Winchester 1894
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 03, 2018, 10:00:11 AM
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Post by: grundy53 on July 03, 2018, 10:02:55 AM
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Post by: b23 on July 03, 2018, 10:04:36 AM
So many to choose from - Spencer repeaters, Colt Peacemaker and M1911, Winchester M12, M70 and M94, M1 Garand, M16, Remington 700
I'm sorry but the rules clearly state you can only pick one. :chuckle:
Post by: wadu1 on July 03, 2018, 10:06:37 AM
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Post by: Alchase on July 03, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
No weapon has exploded in interest and variability as the AR.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on July 03, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Fine then! I will go with the pre-'64 Winchester M70 :chuckle:So many to choose from - Spencer repeaters, Colt Peacemaker and M1911, Winchester M12, M70 and M94, M1 Garand, M16, Remington 700
I'm sorry but the rules clearly state you can only pick one. :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on July 03, 2018, 11:19:20 AM
'Merica! :rockin:
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 03, 2018, 11:29:06 AM
M1 Garand. :salute:
This x1000
Post by: Mike450r on July 03, 2018, 11:31:20 AM
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 03, 2018, 01:37:26 PM
Over 5 million sold. The biggest Army in the world ain’t in China.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 03, 2018, 02:16:16 PM
"The greatest battle implement ever devised"and it was designed by a canadian!
Post by: HawkCreek on July 03, 2018, 02:18:10 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on July 03, 2018, 04:53:11 PM
American: 30/30 Winchester
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Post by: ellensburgpo on July 03, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
Browning M2!!
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 03, 2018, 10:33:17 PM
The Kentucky Long Rifle- The original American Rifle
The Spencer Repeater-America’s first reliable repeating rifle; could have won the Civil War in 6 months if the Army would have spent the money to buy it
The Colt Peacemaker- The pistol in every American Cowboy Movie. Ever.
The 1873 Winchester- The rifle in every American Cowboy Movie. Ever.
The 1874 Sharps- The original 1000 yard rifle; won the first World Championship Rifle Match for the American team at Creedmoor in 1874. Quigley's rifle
The Winchester Model 94- John Moses Browning’s version of the Winchester 73; the most prolific rifle ever made
The 1903 Springfield- The original American Bolt Action that brought us the 30-06 and won WWI. Most US Color Guards and Drill Teams still use this rifle
The Colt 1911 .45- Of the 82 firearms that genius gun designer John Moses Browning invented, arguable his best
The M1 Garand- The rifle that won WWII. General Patton called it “The finest battle implement ever designed”
The Winchester Model 70- Jack O’Connor and Carlos Hathcock. ‘Nuff said…
The Remington 700- The oldest continuously manufacturing company in the US. Period. The Model 700 has sold over 5 million rifles since the 60s. You probably own one. Like the company says; “The biggest Army in the world aint in China”
The M16/AR-15- Where other than America have you ever seen one carried? It is a symbol of freedom around the world
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 03, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
Which one is “most American”?
I gave this a bunch of thought today. I think I vote for the Kentucky Long Rifle. Before America, rifles were not common weapons. German (or Swiss?) gunsmiths had invented rifling around 15th century, but only the fabulously wealthy could afford it. Armies didn’t even carry rifles. But in America, where people took the responsibility for their own sustenance and defense into their own hands out of necessity, there was a real need for the rifle. German gunsmiths from Pennsylvania began producing relatively inexpensive rifles for people moving out “to the middle of nowhere” to make a living (an area nicknamed the “Ken-tuk-ee” in colonial times). By the time of the American Revolution, there were thousands of these 100, 200 and 300 yard weapons in the hands of Americans. Many of these backwoods types volunteered to fight the British. Most of them were placed in units like “Morgan’s Rifles” and used as sharpshooters throughout the war. At the Battle of Saratoga, Sergeant Timothy Murphy (one of Morgan’s Rifles) climbed a tree and placed an accurate shot on British General Simon Fraizer, allowing the American Army to overrun the battlefield and ultimately win the battle. The victory at Saratoga was what brought the French to our side, without which we could not have won our independence. One American. One shot. One rifle.
Post by: spookgus on July 03, 2018, 10:50:09 PM
Pennsylvania or Kentucky Long Rifle:yeah:
French and Indian war and the American revolution. Most American I own is the Model 61 or the Model 94 in 32spl, or just maybe the pre 64 or the 721
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 04, 2018, 08:03:10 AM
After doing some reading, I found out that the Brown Bess was made by the British, even though it was widely used by the revolutionaries. So, I'm going to have to go with the Pennsylvania Rifle - long rifle.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 04, 2018, 08:13:57 AM
Pennsylvania or Kentucky Long Rifle
:yeah:
For patriotic.
For American, lever rifle or single action six gun.
Post by: PA BEN on July 04, 2018, 08:14:51 AM
M1 Garand. :salute::yeah:
Post by: Dan-o on July 04, 2018, 09:49:05 AM
So…
Which one is “most American”?
I gave this a bunch of thought today. I think I vote for the Kentucky Long Rifle. Before America, rifles were not common weapons. German (or Swiss?) gunsmiths had invented rifling around 15th century, but only the fabulously wealthy could afford it. Armies didn’t even carry rifles. But in America, where people took the responsibility for their own sustenance and defense into their own hands out of necessity, there was a real need for the rifle. German gunsmiths from Pennsylvania began producing relatively inexpensive rifles for people moving out “to the middle of nowhere” to make a living (an area nicknamed the “Ken-tuk-ee” in colonial times). By the time of the American Revolution, there were thousands of these 100, 200 and 300 yard weapons in the hands of Americans. Many of these backwoods types volunteered to fight the British. Most of them were placed in units like “Morgan’s Rifles” and used as sharpshooters throughout the war. At the Battle of Saratoga, Sergeant Timothy Murphy (one of Morgan’s Rifles) climbed a tree and placed an accurate shot on British General Simon Fraizer, allowing the American Army to overrun the battlefield and ultimately win the battle. The victory at Saratoga was what brought the French to our side, without which we could not have won our independence. One American. One shot. One rifle.
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Post by: b23 on July 04, 2018, 09:55:34 AM
The 1911 is still my #1 pick for most "American" because, to me, the 1911 just screams American and for most "Patriotic" I'd have to go with one of the Muskets from the revolutionary war.
If there was a most "Western" category, I've always liked the Winchester 94's, particularly the short Trapper models. I have a couple Trappers, 357 & 44.
The SAA are pretty Western and a very cool gun, too.
Post by: savagehunter on July 04, 2018, 11:14:44 AM
Post by: Cylvertip on July 04, 2018, 12:11:45 PM
Go Mighty Mo.
Post by: HawkCreek on July 04, 2018, 01:12:02 PM
The Winchester Model 94- John Moses Browning’s version of the Winchester 73; the most prolific rifle ever made
What?
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 04, 2018, 03:19:00 PM
The Brown Bess. I know someone who owns one.
After doing some reading, I found out that the Brown Bess was made by the British, even though it was widely used by the revolutionaries. So, I'm going to have to go with the Pennsylvania Rifle - long rifle.
The Brown Bess was a British Military Rifle. The reason we had them was that we seized as many of the armories (Like the one at Concord) as we could at the outset of the war. They are smoothbore muskets, accurate only to about 40 yards, the distance at which wars in Europe were fought. If you showed up to join the Continental Army carrying your lunch pail and wearing buckled shoes, they put you in a blue uniform, handed you a Brown Bess and had you start drilling.
But... If you showed up to join dressed in buckskins and carrying a Kentucky Long Rifle and smelling like woodsmoke, they left you looking pretty much the way you were and sent you over to Dan Morgan so you could run around in the woods with your 200 yard deer rifle and hunt for British officers to shoot.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 04, 2018, 03:27:33 PM
The Winchester Model 94- John Moses Browning’s version of the Winchester 73; the most prolific rifle ever made
What?
Yes. John Moses Browning was a young gun designer that went to work for Winchester when he was in his 20s (in the 1870s). He had been tinkering with the Winchester 73 for years and kept improving it over and over (the '85 Winchester, the 86 Winchester, the 87 Winchester). In 1894 he finally got it just the way he wanted it. And that's pretty much the way it has stayed since 1894. The 1894 Winchester lever action rifle has sold over 7 million rifles to date. More than any other sporting arm in history, making it the "most prolific".
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 04, 2018, 03:30:52 PM
Thanks Dan-o :tup: Happy Independence Day!So…
Which one is “most American”?
I gave this a bunch of thought today. I think I vote for the Kentucky Long Rifle. Before America, rifles were not common weapons. German (or Swiss?) gunsmiths had invented rifling around 15th century, but only the fabulously wealthy could afford it. Armies didn’t even carry rifles. But in America, where people took the responsibility for their own sustenance and defense into their own hands out of necessity, there was a real need for the rifle. German gunsmiths from Pennsylvania began producing relatively inexpensive rifles for people moving out “to the middle of nowhere” to make a living (an area nicknamed the “Ken-tuk-ee” in colonial times). By the time of the American Revolution, there were thousands of these 100, 200 and 300 yard weapons in the hands of Americans. Many of these backwoods types volunteered to fight the British. Most of them were placed in units like “Morgan’s Rifles” and used as sharpshooters throughout the war. At the Battle of Saratoga, Sergeant Timothy Murphy (one of Morgan’s Rifles) climbed a tree and placed an accurate shot on British General Simon Fraizer, allowing the American Army to overrun the battlefield and ultimately win the battle. The victory at Saratoga was what brought the French to our side, without which we could not have won our independence. One American. One shot. One rifle.
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Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 04, 2018, 03:43:14 PM
The Brown Bess. I know someone who owns one.
After doing some reading, I found out that the Brown Bess was made by the British, even though it was widely used by the revolutionaries. So, I'm going to have to go with the Pennsylvania Rifle - long rifle.
The Brown Bess was a British Military Rifle. The reason we had them was that we seized as many of the armories (Like the one at Concord) as we could at the outset of the war. They are smoothbore muskets, accurate only to about 40 yards, the distance at which wars in Europe were fought. If you showed up to join the Continental Army carrying your lunch pail and wearing buckled shoes, they put you in a blue uniform, handed you a Brown Bess and had you start drilling.
But... If you showed up to join dressed in buckskins and carrying a Kentucky Long Rifle and smelling like woodsmoke, they left you looking pretty much the way you were and sent you over to Dan Morgan so you could run around in the woods with your 200 yard deer rifle and hunt for British officers to shoot.
But if you were truly gifted you got to serve under Rogers.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 04, 2018, 03:46:25 PM
Rogers was on our side during the French and Indian War. In the Revolution he actually fought for the British. He led the Queen's Rangers for a time. Kind of a British/American auxiliary unit that did the same thing as Morgan's Rifles. He was one of America's most dangerous adversaries.The Brown Bess. I know someone who owns one.
After doing some reading, I found out that the Brown Bess was made by the British, even though it was widely used by the revolutionaries. So, I'm going to have to go with the Pennsylvania Rifle - long rifle.
The Brown Bess was a British Military Rifle. The reason we had them was that we seized as many of the armories (Like the one at Concord) as we could at the outset of the war. They are smoothbore muskets, accurate only to about 40 yards, the distance at which wars in Europe were fought. If you showed up to join the Continental Army carrying your lunch pail and wearing buckled shoes, they put you in a blue uniform, handed you a Brown Bess and had you start drilling.
But... If you showed up to join dressed in buckskins and carrying a Kentucky Long Rifle and smelling like woodsmoke, they left you looking pretty much the way you were and sent you over to Dan Morgan so you could run around in the woods with your 200 yard deer rifle and hunt for British officers to shoot.
But if you were truly gifted you got to serve under Rogers.
Post by: bearpaw on July 04, 2018, 03:49:17 PM
The Winchester Model 94- John Moses Browning’s version of the Winchester 73; the most prolific rifle ever made
What?
Yes. John Moses Browning was a young gun designer that went to work for Winchester when he was in his 20s (in the 1870s). He had been tinkering with the Winchester 73 for years and kept improving it over and over (the '85 Winchester, the 86 Winchester, the 87 Winchester). In 1894 he finally got it just the way he wanted it. And that's pretty much the way it has stayed since 1894. The 1894 Winchester lever action rifle has sold over 7 million rifles to date. More than any other sporting arm in history, making it the "most prolific".
I watched a documentary about Browning, it was very good, he really did a lot for our military too.
Post by: Bofire on July 04, 2018, 03:59:26 PM
Carl
Post by: Pathfinder101 on July 04, 2018, 04:07:21 PM
Way more 870's sold(about 13million) than 94's if your number is correct. I think I'd choose the 1911 for cartridge development, machining, design longevity, and use across the world it is sort of a symbol of America. Lots of good ideas tho.
Carl
But the Rem 870 isn't just a sporting firearm. Many of those are govt issue for police and military. According to the NRA, the Winchester Model 94 is the "most popular sporting arm of all time".
But.. now that you mention it, I own 2 Remington 870s and only 1 Winchester 94... :chuckle:
Post by: HawkCreek on July 04, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
The Winchester Model 94- John Moses Browning’s version of the Winchester 73; the most prolific rifle ever made
What?
Yes. John Moses Browning was a young gun designer that went to work for Winchester when he was in his 20s (in the 1870s). He had been tinkering with the Winchester 73 for years and kept improving it over and over (the '85 Winchester, the 86 Winchester, the 87 Winchester). In 1894 he finally got it just the way he wanted it. And that's pretty much the way it has stayed since 1894. The 1894 Winchester lever action rifle has sold over 7 million rifles to date. More than any other sporting arm in history, making it the "most prolific".
Well... That's one way to look at it I suppose. Yes, he did design a lot of guns for Winchester but none of those are based on the '73 or '76 toggle link actions. The '85 is a single shot and was produced by Browning before he even partnered with Winchester though they began producing it after their partnership. The '86 he'd already had mostly designed before the partnership, upon their initial meeting (over the '85) they also secured the rights to the '86. The '87 shotgun was a design JMB didn't even want to do, the tried to get Winchester to go with a pump design to keep up with what other companies were already brining to market but they wanted to stay with levers. It's more of a rolling block design than anything. You left out the '92 action which was a scaled down '86 for pistol calibers (to replace the '73). The 94 was a different design that all those already listed being of approximately the same size of the '92 but able to handle longer cartridges as it is a very different action internally. Then of course he finally designed the '95 for Winchester to handle rounds like the .30-40 Krag. But other than being lever actions none of those are based on the '73 toggle link action.
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Post by: The Big Game Hunter on August 29, 2018, 10:21:18 AM
Lot of history there, plus it's a darn good cartridge for hunting anything in the USA.
http://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/308-vs-30-06-vs-300-win-mag-which-cartridge-should-you-be-hunting-with/
Post by: boneaddict on August 29, 2018, 10:39:16 AM
Post by: yakimanoob on August 30, 2018, 12:15:20 PM
The most patriotic gun to me is the one that I use to protect my house. Ruger American bolt in 22WMR. Followed closely by my big-critter-gun, Savage 16 LWH in 7mm-08.
Post by: Alpine Mojo on August 30, 2018, 06:27:38 PM
Post by: mountainman on August 30, 2018, 07:08:22 PM
I love the 06Have to agree my friend! Soo many flavor of the day, jump on the bandwagon options out there. .you don't need a 7mm whizbang, Creedmore anything, Badger anything to put meat on the table any better then the good ole 30/06! Killed more game with this "vanilla" caliber then all others combined! My son has an old m77 '06 I handed down to him, that has accounted for more bear, deer, and elk then most will see in a lifetime lol!. But hey, we're just a couple of longbow shooters, so what do we know👍
Post by: Oh Mah on August 30, 2018, 07:18:15 PM
To me.....100% agree for sooooo many reasons.
Modern - AR15
Historically - Winchester 1894
#because THEY the un American'a keep trying to take it away. :salute:
Post by: Biggerhammer on August 30, 2018, 07:25:40 PM
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on October 10, 2018, 01:41:32 PM
+1 for the Winchester 1894To me.....100% agree for sooooo many reasons.
Modern - AR15
Historically - Winchester 1894
#because THEY the un American'a keep trying to take it away. :salute:
The .30-30 is right up there with the .30-06, the .45 Colt, and Apple Pie!
http://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/30-30-winchester/
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 10, 2018, 01:51:42 PM
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Post by: silverdalesauer on October 10, 2018, 10:35:24 PM
Overall, the 1911 takes the prize.
Post by: thinkingman on October 11, 2018, 09:26:28 AM
Reading another post got me to thinking about what would I consider to be the most patriotic/American gun and with the 4th of July being tomorrow figured this would be a good time to see what everyone consider as the most "American/Patriotic" gun to them.1911 Govt.
For me it was an easy one and really the only one that came to mind, Colt 1911.
Doesn't have to be a Colt, many manufacturers helped win the wars.
Looks as *censored* today as it did 108 years ago.
I think I'm making an impression on my 14 year old.
In a world where everyone thinks Glock is something special, he appreciates a fine 1911.
Steel is real.