Post by: Billy74 on August 03, 2018, 02:58:59 PM
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Post by: hunter399 on August 03, 2018, 03:33:12 PM
Post by: jrebel on August 03, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
Obviously no flying shots and I will not shoot when they are in a tree unless I have the trunk of the tree as a backstop. If they are out on a branch and there is no backstop I will not shoot them. Safety first. :tup: :tup:
Post by: jstone on August 03, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
Post by: Buckmark on August 03, 2018, 05:11:12 PM
Sometimes i get lucky and they hang out on my property :tup:
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on August 03, 2018, 06:15:21 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on August 03, 2018, 07:17:32 PM
Billy74, take you son scouting with you!
Post by: outdooraddict on August 04, 2018, 07:05:58 AM
Post by: jrebel on August 04, 2018, 07:13:01 AM
is the birdshot powerfull enough and from what dstance, i have a cheap 22 revolver that also has the 22 mag cylinder, id like to use this for grouse, and wanted to try the birdshot but didnt know how close or if it would be powerful enough
In my opinion....it sucks. I would just stay with standard 22 lr rounds.
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 04, 2018, 07:56:02 AM
Post by: Okanagan on August 04, 2018, 09:47:29 AM
Open sighted Ruger 10/22 and headshots are the way to go. Hate picking birdshot out of my mouth. :chuckle:
Agreed. I'd start a kid on open sights. Grouse are the best eating in the woods and I wish that they weighed 50 lbs.
FWIW some factors and options below.
As my eyes have aged, I have more trouble with open sights, even though that is the best for close shots on grouse, and many shots are very close. Last year I went to a red dot sight, a low cost Center Point, and once I got the hang of it, killed 11 grouse with 12 shots, seven in a row I think it was. Then I missed four shots at a grouse at my feet. That one was so close that the difference between bullet path and sight picture was enough to miss the grouse. I need to mentally adjust where I aim on close shots.
The down side of the red dot, and of most scopes to a lesser extend, is that the height of the sight above the bore puts the bullet 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches below the sight picture on very close shots, say inside of 10 feet. That is enough to miss a grouse neck and miss the grouse if the neck is not positioned directly above the body at the shot.
I wish someone would make a red dot with the sight as close to bore as possible and the battery, mounting body etc. are to one side or above the sight picture, so that the red dot (or scope crosshairs) is as close to bore/bullet path as possible.
Leapers makes air rifle scopes with parallax focus down to within 6 feet or something like that. People started shooting insects with them and calling them Bug Busters and the name stuck. I'd get one for grouse if they made a lower powered variable. The lowest power is 3-9 in a variable, and 4 power fixed. For my eyes, messed up by multiple surgeries I will admit, I'd like a 1-4 scope for grouse no larger than 33mm objective with parallax focus to within 6 feet. For years I shot grouse with open sights, then went to a 3-9 variable scope for many more years. Now my eyes won't focus on close shots with regular scopes. Hence the red dot.
Post by: Igor on August 04, 2018, 10:50:45 AM
is the birdshot powerfull enough and from what dstance, i have a cheap 22 revolver that also has the 22 mag cylinder, id like to use this for grouse, and wanted to try the birdshot but didnt know how close or if it would be powerful enough
Just do a little pattern test of your .22 mag birdshot on a piece of plywood or cardboard. Try it at about, say, 18 feet, that's 6 yards......you will not be impressed !!
Post by: hunter399 on August 04, 2018, 11:13:12 AM
I know when I was younger, birdshot for pistol,22lr came out .The 22 birdshot was so weak you almost would have to hold the muzzle right on its head to kill anything.I thought I read somewhere it was for mice and rats.maybe the 22mag birdshot is better :dunno:, but never buy that 22lr birdshot is not very good .is the birdshot powerfull enough and from what dstance, i have a cheap 22 revolver that also has the 22 mag cylinder, id like to use this for grouse, and wanted to try the birdshot but didnt know how close or if it would be powerful enough
Just do a little pattern test of your .22 mag birdshot on a piece of plywood or cardboard. Try it at about, say, 18 feet, that's 6 yards......you will not be impressed !!
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 04, 2018, 11:51:14 AM
Grouse with an open sighted .22, can't be done :chuckle:
Sometimes i get lucky and they hang out on my property :tup:
That's a really cool photo. :tup:
Post by: fowl smacker on August 04, 2018, 12:00:10 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on August 05, 2018, 11:58:08 AM
is the birdshot powerfull enough and from what dstance, i have a cheap 22 revolver that also has the 22 mag cylinder, id like to use this for grouse, and wanted to try the birdshot but didnt know how close or if it would be powerful enough
.22 long rifle sucks. But I've had good luck with .22 mag.
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on August 05, 2018, 12:07:10 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 05, 2018, 01:23:46 PM
Post by: Bob33 on August 05, 2018, 01:34:32 PM
I once shot the head off a grouse with a .30-30 model 94 in a neighbor's backyard. By the way, is it legal to shoot grouse with a pellet rifle?It is not legal.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/92/Is+it+legal+to+use+pellet+guns%2C+air+guns%2C+or+sling+shots+to+harvest+game+birds%3F (https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/92/Is+it+legal+to+use+pellet+guns%2C+air+guns%2C+or+sling+shots+to+harvest+game+birds%3F)
Post by: Dave Workman on August 05, 2018, 04:59:16 PM
Take this .22 you're talking about and go to the range (gravel pit, whatever) and start shooting:
Empty quart milk jugs
Water bottles in the neck
Small aluminum cans
Playing cards
Bottle caps
When you can hit them consistently...you can start shooting grouse in the head.
I'm not kidding around here. This is doable and it's fun, and it really sharpens your shooting skills. Grouse will hate you. :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 06, 2018, 05:28:04 AM
I once shot the head off a grouse with a .30-30 model 94 in a neighbor's backyard. By the way, is it legal to shoot grouse with a pellet rifle?It is not legal.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/92/Is+it+legal+to+use+pellet+guns%2C+air+guns%2C+or+sling+shots+to+harvest+game+birds%3F (https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/92/Is+it+legal+to+use+pellet+guns%2C+air+guns%2C+or+sling+shots+to+harvest+game+birds%3F)
They suck all the joy out of life!
Post by: bearpaw on August 06, 2018, 05:32:40 AM
Post by: NorseNW on August 06, 2018, 06:37:21 AM
Thanks for any input
Post by: bearpaw on August 06, 2018, 12:29:34 PM
I prefer shooting heads off with a .22 out to 30 yards, farther than that I usually shoot in the body. If you use solid points rather than hollow points I think there is less damage if you shoot in the body.
I was talking .22 rifle, I'm not good enough to shoot heads with a pistol, I just go for the body with a .22 pistol and consider it lucky when i get one.
Post by: Gunster on August 07, 2018, 09:20:06 AM
I like the pistol idea. What pistol do people like for shooting them? The mark IV looks pretty common - people just use the "hunter" or is there a better option? Wheel gun folks - which one do you prefer?
For Wheel guns I have a '57 Smith Wesson K22 that is a favorite.
Post by: Tiger1358 on September 01, 2018, 05:15:19 PM
Post by: onmygame on September 02, 2018, 08:42:22 AM
I take my fair share too - all head shots, but with a .17 HMR
Post by: duckmen1 on September 02, 2018, 10:35:09 AM
22 is a blast chasing grouse with. But would love to invest in a 17hmr. They are just a super cool round to carry.