Post by: SteelheadTed on August 13, 2018, 06:41:24 AM
I am shooting a Bowtech Carbon Icon set at 65 pounds. Any ideas?
Post by: Timberstalker on August 13, 2018, 06:47:33 AM
Otherwise you can move your peep.
Post by: NorseNW on August 13, 2018, 06:55:45 AM
I agree with Timberstalker that you just started with the wrong setting. Should be a way to move the entire group to get a new starting point.
Post by: 92xj on August 13, 2018, 07:02:09 AM
Post by: OltHunter on August 13, 2018, 07:20:59 AM
Like others mentioned, post a pic, that will help.
Here are a few things to check, assuming you have a 5 or 7 pin setup:
This is most likely the case, like Timberstalker and NorseNW mentioned, Your 20 yard pin (and all pins) is probably set too low. Move that pin up and all other pins, then move down your sight housing. With a lot of pins, that 20 yard pin should probably be closer to the top than the midline. Probably the upper 1/4 of the housing. All sights now a days have a way to move your entire housing down.
Check nock and arrow relation, you arrow should be around level to a little nock high in the rest and around the midline of your arrow rest holes. If that is too low, that's going to make your entire sight window lower.
Peep - Draw your bow, close your eyes, settle in your anchor, get comfortable, then open your eye. Your peep should be perfectly aligned there, don't try to adjust to your peep. Adjust your peep as needed.
Anchor point - If you are shooting thumb release, generally the V between your index and middle finger runs in the middle of your jaw bone. Finger release probably around the bottom your cheek bone somewhere to jaw.
After all of that, make sure you are not getting contact with the arrow. You might have to adjust something.
These are just a few things to check out.
Good luck! Let us know what you figure out for future reference for anyone.
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 13, 2018, 09:21:13 AM
Post by: Crunchy on August 13, 2018, 09:27:44 AM
Sorry, but wouldn't he want to move the entire sight down?
yes, but I wouldnt move anything until we know that his arrow is square to the string, and level with the berger hole. Once that is established then yes, move the sight down.
Post by: SteelheadTed on August 13, 2018, 09:42:08 AM
If it is one of the things mentioned above, especially the peep issue, should I adjust this close to the season? It may not be ideal but I am comfortable shooting the way I am. I probably won't get comfortable at 50 yards before the season anyway, so my self imposed limit would be 40.
Post by: SteelheadTed on August 13, 2018, 09:43:15 AM
Sorry, but wouldn't he want to move the entire sight down?
yes, but I wouldnt move anything until we know that his arrow is square to the string, and level with the berger hole. Once that is established then yes, move the sight down.
My arrow is square to the string so far as I can tell. I put a speed square on it, not the most accurate thing but it is square.
Post by: demontang on August 13, 2018, 09:48:39 AM
Post by: Jason on August 13, 2018, 10:11:18 AM
Post by: OltHunter on August 13, 2018, 10:35:18 AM
Something just doesn't seem right that a housing is maxed out and you still have room, i'll be interested to see the pics. Try to have one with an arrow nocked at full rest height from the side, and from behind to see your sight.
If it is one of the things mentioned above, especially the peep issue, should I adjust this close to the season? It may not be ideal but I am comfortable shooting the way I am. I probably won't get comfortable at 50 yards before the season anyway, so my self imposed limit would be 40.
If you can shoot 4 to 6 inch groups at 40 yards, I'd say revisit this after the season unless you have a lot of time to shoot between now and then. if you adjust your peep, you might have to adjust your nock, rest, which would then through you down another tune process.
I personally don't shoot over 45 yards, but that is just me...too many variables and I don't want to increase the chance to wound game.
It's good to practice past out to 60, seems to help those 40 yard groups tighten up.
Post by: SteelheadTed on August 14, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
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Post by: Reidus on August 14, 2018, 01:14:38 PM
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Post by: demontang on August 14, 2018, 01:51:10 PM
Post by: SteelheadTed on August 16, 2018, 07:12:01 AM
~sniped~
Draw your bow, close your eyes, settle in your anchor, get comfortable, then open your eye. Your peep should be perfectly aligned there, don't try to adjust to your peep. Adjust your peep as needed.
Thanks to this advice from OltHunter (and others) I found my peep was too low. I went to the bow shop yesterday to talk things over we brought the peep up (they didn't think anything else needed adjustment), bingo! Not only do I like shooting it better it helped solve the low sight issue since it too had to come up with the peep.
After going to the bow shop my daughter and I attended an archery lesson that we had already arranged and I sighted in with the new peep height. Moving the peep solved more than one issue. As a result of the peep not being where I was most comfortable I think I was torquing on the bow when I shot because arrows would come off the bow funny sometimes. Now, they don't do that and I shot the best groups I've shot yet.
The archery lesson was also very helpful, I learned better form, especially when pulling back. The instructor also suggested an adjustment to my release that made a big difference and eliminated a lot of movement.
I went from fairly discouraged a few days ago at the lack of consistency in my shooting and the low sight issue to very encouraged at the end of the day yesterday.
Thanks folks!
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 16, 2018, 07:14:59 AM
Post by: Fullabull on August 20, 2018, 09:43:21 PM
Post by: dreadi on August 21, 2018, 05:15:28 AM
~sniped~
Draw your bow, close your eyes, settle in your anchor, get comfortable, then open your eye. Your peep should be perfectly aligned there, don't try to adjust to your peep. Adjust your peep as needed.
Thanks to this advice from OltHunter (and others) I found my peep was too low. I went to the bow shop yesterday to talk things over we brought the peep up (they didn't think anything else needed adjustment), bingo! Not only do I like shooting it better it helped solve the low sight issue since it too had to come up with the peep.
After going to the bow shop my daughter and I attended an archery lesson that we had already arranged and I sighted in with the new peep height. Moving the peep solved more than one issue. As a result of the peep not being where I was most comfortable I think I was torquing on the bow when I shot because arrows would come off the bow funny sometimes. Now, they don't do that and I shot the best groups I've shot yet.
The archery lesson was also very helpful, I learned better form, especially when pulling back. The instructor also suggested an adjustment to my release that made a big difference and eliminated a lot of movement.
I went from fairly discouraged a few days ago at the lack of consistency in my shooting and the low sight issue to very encouraged at the end of the day yesterday.
Thanks folks!
Where did you go? I’ve been looking for lessons in our area near Tacoma that would fit our schedule.
Post by: SteelheadTed on August 21, 2018, 07:22:43 AM
~sniped~
Draw your bow, close your eyes, settle in your anchor, get comfortable, then open your eye. Your peep should be perfectly aligned there, don't try to adjust to your peep. Adjust your peep as needed.
Thanks to this advice from OltHunter (and others) I found my peep was too low. I went to the bow shop yesterday to talk things over we brought the peep up (they didn't think anything else needed adjustment), bingo! Not only do I like shooting it better it helped solve the low sight issue since it too had to come up with the peep.
After going to the bow shop my daughter and I attended an archery lesson that we had already arranged and I sighted in with the new peep height. Moving the peep solved more than one issue. As a result of the peep not being where I was most comfortable I think I was torquing on the bow when I shot because arrows would come off the bow funny sometimes. Now, they don't do that and I shot the best groups I've shot yet.
The archery lesson was also very helpful, I learned better form, especially when pulling back. The instructor also suggested an adjustment to my release that made a big difference and eliminated a lot of movement.
I went from fairly discouraged a few days ago at the lack of consistency in my shooting and the low sight issue to very encouraged at the end of the day yesterday.
Thanks folks!
Where did you go? I’ve been looking for lessons in our area near Tacoma that would fit our schedule.
A class taught by Kim Patersen at KBH Archers near Belfair. The adult class is at 7:00pm and is $30. Kim teaches kids too at earlier times. I've attached a photo of his flier.
Post by: dreadi on August 21, 2018, 10:46:21 AM