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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Tbob on September 14, 2018, 01:55:15 PM

Title: What the heck?!
Post by: Tbob on September 14, 2018, 01:55:15 PM: Okay,
So last year I scored on my first archery bull and was super stoked. So this year I go into the season with a little more confidence.
I’m hunting the SW coast of WA and can’t muster up a bull to save my life! I’ve been out since opening morning and can’t find a one! I’ve been in the timber (a lot), I hiked 6 miles up a creek bottom the other day and hunted 6 miles back out and didn’t see anything! I’ve tried all kinds of calling and can’t even get a response ( except for the 4 dudes I called in last night). I’ve glassed clear cuts in the mornings and evenings, I’ve just been silent all day and crept around logging roads and timber all day. STILL NOTHING!
So far I’ve glassed up 3 cows, one calf and a spike one evening in a clear cut and a few deer here and there and that’s it... I’ve been out from well before sun up to waaaaay past dark, out all day! I’ve tried multiple closed gates here and there and still notta.. it’s not for lack of effort, it must be something fundamental I’m doing wrong. Everyone I’ve talked to out here says “ oh we’ve been into em everyday, just not the right one or just couldn’t get close enough for a shot”.. seriously?! I’ve been out here over a week now and can’t even find a bull!!
So can someone help a brother out and explain what the heck I’m doing wrong? I just can’t figure it out?! I’m in the wood all dang day! I’m not a bad caller, I’m covering ground, I’m hunting all types of terrain, I’m calling , I’m silent listening for calls, I’m mindful of the wind, I’m in areas where elk are! Dude camped next to me just came in with a big ass bull this morning and was like, yeah we’ve been seeing em every day.. whaaaaaat?! I’m about to loose my mind!
So what’s the secret?! If it’s that secret feel free to PM me, but honestly, I’ve never hunted this hard for ZERO results (other than I’m in the woods and not being nagged by anyone and I’m not at work)! Lol.. I finally drew a MS elk tag and don’t want to waste it. I’m coming back out for muzzy season ( with my bow) and I don’t want to come out and waste my time by doing the same thing I did this entire week and again not see anything.. any advice from you consistently successful guys?! Why do you guys get it done all the time and I can’t even find a bull ?! Thanks!
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: 7mmfan on September 14, 2018, 01:57:29 PM: Are you finding fresh sign?
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: Moe the Sleaze on September 14, 2018, 02:03:19 PM: Sounds like the vast majority of MY elk seasons!!! LOL. You are not alone.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: Tbob on September 14, 2018, 03:53:25 PM: Quote from: 7mmfan on September 14, 2018, 01:57:29 PM
Are you finding fresh sign?

Yes sir.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on September 14, 2018, 03:58:10 PM: Keep after it. When it does happen it’ll be quick. Be ready.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: ASienkiewich on September 14, 2018, 05:27:35 PM: Check wind often, I started having more success when I payed closer attention to the wind, especially for elk. But sometimes you can do everything right and you just miss them by 100yards or a few seconds, whatever it may be. Just stay with it. Good luck

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Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: slowhand on September 14, 2018, 05:47:47 PM: Quote from: Moe the Sleaze on September 14, 2018, 02:03:19 PM
Sounds like the vast majority of MY elk seasons!!! LOL. You are not alone.
Me too :bash:
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: Bigshooter on September 14, 2018, 07:15:52 PM: It's called hunting not killing. Sometimes you find them and sometimes you don't.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: ruttnbuck on September 14, 2018, 09:11:01 PM: Not that I've harvested an elk yet ,but this year so far with the elk in the area im hunting they're not vocal at all and me just moving really slow through an area where I know elk are at and constantly checking wind has made difference for me in at least seeing our hearing them close by. If your calling them and you got good wind and they're not vocal then just sit and wait they might come in quiet on ya. Good luck man stick with it
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: Tbob on September 14, 2018, 10:16:08 PM: Thanks for the replies guys! And I totally understand it’s hunting and not killing. I get it man! I’m not new to this, but to spend over 90 hours in the woods and not see a legal bull or hear a bugle (from an actual elk) or call one in silent just seems like I’m not doing something right.. that’s all I was asking.. just not sure if I’m making the same mistake over and over and just dont know what that mistake is?! I’ll never give up as I just love it too much, but I’d like to be/get better is all..
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: snarkybull on September 14, 2018, 11:01:30 PM: To put it simply: there is no secret. What works one day does not work the next.

Also, cows are tasty.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: csaaphill on September 14, 2018, 11:18:16 PM: If that's the jungle like area of that side, are you still hunting? pick apart every limb and tree brand and everything around you before taking a few steps. If it's sign you're seeing is it droppings or tracks? follow the droppings and or tracks if it's fresh. :dunno:
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: archeryfreak on November 23, 2018, 12:10:05 AM: We just dont have the numbers of elk that we should/used to.. My hunting partner and I were talking about that the other day how when we started archery hunting it was nothing for us to have 2-6 setups a day calling to bulls.. and now, in many areas, your lucky to get that many close encounters all season. Granted there are areas that guys have in their back pockets that still hold good #'s of elk :chuckle: Hopefully the wolves dont get to be detrimental to the elk herds in the rest of the state as it seems I've heard of some our better areas are getting hit pretty hard by them.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: bwhntr350 on November 23, 2018, 10:43:09 AM: Welcome to the state that sells more tags than the number of elk that we have. Elk have paid the political price! $

I realize it is probably unpopular, but I really wish we would go to a permit system.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 23, 2018, 11:32:57 AM: Quote from: bwhntr350 on November 23, 2018, 10:43:09 AM
Welcome to the state that sells more tags than the number of elk that we have. Elk have paid the political price! $

I realize it is probably unpopular, but I really wish we would go to a permit system.

So, first of all, not true. According to RMEF 2017 statistics, the estimated size of the WA total elk population is around 60K (https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Hanford_Reach/Wildlife_Habitat/Elk.html). The number of tags sold in 2017 is 58K. The really important number is that only 9.3% of hunters are successful, for a total of 5,465 animals taken last year. (https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/harvest/2017/elk_general.php)

It's possible the elk herd is somewhat smaller since 2014 with hoof disease but the harvest number ratio is still quite small as compared to the general population.
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: littlemac on November 25, 2018, 03:56:48 PM: Quote from: Bigshooter on September 14, 2018, 07:15:52 PM
It's called hunting not killing. Sometimes you find them and sometimes you don't.
What he said! ^
Title: Re: What the heck?!
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on November 25, 2018, 05:29:21 PM: Weather’s too nice