Post by: Born2late on September 22, 2018, 10:00:42 PM
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on September 22, 2018, 10:15:29 PM
My $.02, the Snohomish is under escapement threshold s for coho due primarily to loss/modification of habitat.
Post by: Humptulips on September 23, 2018, 12:08:08 AM
As a coincidence today I spoke with a fellow that was having problems with beavers and had applied and received a hydraulic permit to remove a beaver dam in Thurston County.
I should think it would be a pretty tough case to win against the county for liability. Not a lawyer but I imagine the expense to pursue such a case would be prohibitive compared to possible damages collected.
Might be a good chance to see if his County Commissioner could help.
Post by: Born2late on September 23, 2018, 07:01:25 AM
Post by: Trapper John on September 23, 2018, 03:44:15 PM
Be careful ..................
:yeah:
You are responsible for any and all damage downstream. :yike:
If the water kicks out someones road or driveway, you are responsible for the damage.
If the water behind the dams have heavy metals in them and they go down stream and kills fish ..... yep your responsible !
Let me tell you a story.
I was contacted with a company that had access to the land and needed to drain this pond so they could get their machinery in there.
I trapped a pile of beaver out of this fairly large pond one day.
I was there when a guy with a backhoe pulled a tire out that was in front of the culvert pipe.
The water rushed out of there so quick that the guys Boss said: "Put that tire back in there now" :yike: :yike: :yike:
Well once that tire came out there was no way it was going back in.
The water ran out and took out two driveways a mile away.
The company had to replace both driveway culverts and fix the two roads going into their property.
Cost to the company was just shy of $15,000.00
I have taken out a lot of beaver dams in my Business over thirty years. There is a proper way of doing it.
Look into how it is down and be careful. Both for your safety and others including fish and wildlife.
I Highly Recommend two things and that is first make sure you are a license business and second have some Insurance (at lest one $ million ) if you plan on doing this kind of work.
JC
Post by: Badhabit on September 23, 2018, 03:52:55 PM
Post by: Born2late on September 23, 2018, 06:05:58 PM
My intention in asking this is if what you stated is true john. What if he does nothing because they wont allow him to and we get massive rain for weeks. The dam blows out and destroys stuff down stream or injures someone. i would think the county would have some responsibility for not allowing a home owner to maintain it to keep it flowing safely.Or the county should take the responsibility maintaining it.
Didn't something like this happen a year or two ago in duvall and damage some houses downstream?
Post by: TheHunt on September 23, 2018, 06:17:08 PM
Post by: Mark Brenckle on September 23, 2018, 06:42:00 PM
bad idea. Our cost of living would go even higher. Washington and Oregon get most of our electricity from hydroelectric generators via the dams. It is the cheapest power. We even sell it to California. This would be a bad idea if they were taken down. Just my opinion.:chuckle: did you have a couple beers watching the game?
Post by: Born2late on September 23, 2018, 06:46:11 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 23, 2018, 06:48:23 PM
bad idea. Our cost of living would go even higher. Washington and Oregon get most of our electricity from hydroelectric generators via the dams. It is the cheapest power. We even sell it to California. This would be a bad idea if they were taken down. Just my opinion.:chuckle: did you have a couple beers watching the game?
Better yet, I didn’t know beavers were making concrete hydroelectric dams these days.🤣
Post by: TheHunt on September 23, 2018, 06:53:50 PM
What if there is no cheap energy for Washington? Local products would increase in cost and thus would increase your cost of living. Oh, your electrical bill would also increase because we need to generate electricity from some place. Oh, we get them from those cooling towers near Elma. :-)
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 23, 2018, 06:58:04 PM
bad idea. Our cost of living would go even higher. Washington and Oregon get most of our electricity from hydroelectric generators via the dams. It is the cheapest power. We even sell it to California. This would be a bad idea if they were taken down. Just my opinion.:chuckle: did you have a couple beers watching the game?
Better yet, I didn’t know beavers were making concrete hydroelectric dams these days.🤣
Or he ate some 420 edibles someone left laying around the house.🤔
Post by: Pinetar on September 23, 2018, 07:09:32 PM
Post by: Trapper John on September 23, 2018, 08:34:27 PM
i would just be trapping the beavers.
My intention in asking this is if what you stated is true john. What if he does nothing because they wont allow him to and we get massive rain for weeks. The dam blows out and destroys stuff down stream or injures someone. i would think the county would have some responsibility for not allowing a home owner to maintain it to keep it flowing safely.Or the county should take the responsibility maintaining it.
Didn't something like this happen a year or two ago in duvall and damage some houses downstream?
Yep, the county would be on the hook.
Just go trap um out of there. Leave the dams
JC
bad idea. Our cost of living would go even higher. Washington and Oregon get most of our electricity from hydroelectric generators via the dams. It is the cheapest power. We even sell it to California. This would be a bad idea if they were taken down. Just my opinion.:chuckle: did you have a couple beers watching the game?
Did you have a couple of beers watching the game or did you smoke something ??? ;D
:party1: :whoo: :brew:
Now thta's funny
Post by: JakeLand on September 23, 2018, 08:38:31 PM
In all seriousness trap the beaver out then advise the home owner to slowly dismantle the dam that way it slowly lowers
Post by: Cougartail on September 23, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
Post by: Humptulips on September 24, 2018, 07:47:14 PM
This post just went sideways in a super funny way. I needed that laugh
I wondered why it jumped to two pages so quick. :chuckle: