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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 11:13:51 AM

Title: Getting a buck to come in?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 11:13:51 AM: Are bucks more inclined to come in on a doe or buck call? just curious what method most find works best.
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Post by: boneaddict on October 04, 2018, 11:14:20 AM: Buck
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Post by: nwwanderer on October 04, 2018, 11:17:27 AM: Agree, second might be unusual noise, curiosity.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on October 04, 2018, 11:21:45 AM: Definitely buck in my experience. Especially for a buck older than 2.5 :twocents:

As for "unusual noises" when calling. If you hear a cracking stick - and it's been 5 minutes. Probably a buck so don't get fidgety.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on October 04, 2018, 11:22:55 AM: Seems like every time a dominant buck approaches a setup cautiously, he breaks a stick when he's 50-75 yards out and then holds up waiting. Observations from an obsessed but average hunter.
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 11:56:55 AM: Ok so what would be a good "buck" call for BT?
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Post by: boneaddict on October 04, 2018, 01:13:20 PM: havent put too much research into it. I just grab whats on the shelf at cabelas. Seems like its usually a Primos or something like that. Blacktails and Muleys usually have one and whitetails have one. Either will work for either species, but usually the whitetails have a faster "cadence" and not as deep. Whitetails tend to respond more aggressively to a "call"
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Post by: cavemann on October 04, 2018, 01:18:28 PM: for me in the past it has been the sound of my belt coming off to take care of business, the sound of my gun leaning against a tree to peel a layer or the rustling for my lunch with gun out of reach... Seems they like all those sounds and then disappear!!
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Post by: Molon5labe on October 04, 2018, 01:34:10 PM: Quote from: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 11:56:55 AM
Ok so what would be a good "buck" call for BT?

rattling?
Title: Re: Getting a buck to come in?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 01:39:26 PM: Quote from: cavemann on October 04, 2018, 01:18:28 PM
for me in the past it has been the sound of my belt coming off to take care of business, the sound of my gun leaning against a tree to peel a layer or the rustling for my lunch with gun out of reach... Seems they like all those sounds and then disappear!!
:chuckle: of course, and if i want a fish to bite i just pee, drop a duece or start pouring coffee but the most effective way to get a bits is unzip for any reason
Title: Re: Getting a buck to come in?
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on October 04, 2018, 01:40:19 PM: Apples and Wet COB :chuckle:
I have heard of people using the grunt cans, but no luck for me with them.

Quote from: Molon5labe on October 04, 2018, 01:34:10 PM
Quote from: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 11:56:55 AM
Ok so what would be a good "buck" call for BT?

rattling?
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 06:25:34 PM: Ihave heard BT's wont come in on a WT call?
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Post by: Scuffy on October 04, 2018, 07:25:43 PM: In my opinion it depends on what time of the season. Pre-rut a grunt will work best as mature bucks are establishing their territory. As it moves closer to peak time, doe bleat brings bucks crashing in. As it turns to peak time a combination of bleat and grunt imitates a buck and doe pairing up and brings out mature bucks to check out who is intruding their territory.

I’ve hunted whitetail my entire life, but have hunted blacktail one day in my life. It was late November 19-20ish and I called in two young bucks and a mature 4x4 with a Primos can doe bleat.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 04, 2018, 11:49:31 PM: .... and a bleat can has never produced a BT buck for me, even after a few thousand calls.

Walmart carries a BT and Muley grunt call - or at least they used to. The tube on the BT call seemed to be smaller diameter. One member here has pretty good success working reprod units in areas of fresh rubs. He detailed it last year. I'll let you search the forum for the thread. Search "grunt tubes" and see what that gets you. Perhaps "calling Blacktails". Rattling should also be in your playbook. Good results on that one by searching the forum as well.
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Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 06, 2018, 05:03:52 PM: i got a quality call today that pretty much covers all aspects, now to get it down decent.
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Post by: stickbuck on October 06, 2018, 06:47:20 PM: Quote from: Kc_Kracker on October 04, 2018, 06:25:34 PM
Ihave heard BT's wont come in on a WT call?

The blacktail grunts and bleats I’ve heard in the woods are much softer of a sound compared to a whitetail or muley. I use the original Primos can and instead of turning it over as you would for whitetails, I lightly blow into the bottom of the call. This produces much softer tones, which I think are preferred by blacktails. It has been far more productive than the louder calls.

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Post by: Kc_Kracker on October 08, 2018, 02:27:22 PM: Ive been watching videos on what they consider to be the difference between a "all clear" bleat and other bleats. how loud do i want my calls to be?