Post by: 7mmfan on October 05, 2018, 09:14:21 AM
I know I could jump over to the Accubond, but have been considering going monolithic, either to the Barnes TTSX in 140 or 150, or the Nosler E-Tip in the same size. I understand that there are some differences to consider when loading these in regards to size/speed/bullet performance, so I just wanted to get some guys input that have used them, especially if you have experience with the 7 Mag specifically.
Rory
Post by: Wetwoodshunter on October 05, 2018, 10:08:17 AM
I shot my caribou in the head with it this year bullet performed perfect.
Post by: h20hunter on October 05, 2018, 10:57:53 AM
Post by: bobcat on October 05, 2018, 11:11:32 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on October 05, 2018, 12:02:47 PM
Rory....bro in law has a few selections of bullets on hand. I'm sure he would part with ten here and there for testing.
Alright next time we get together to knock some steel around I'll ask about getting some from him.
@Bobcat, I have the 120's test loaded for my 7mm-08 based on some load data that you gave me, but I haven't had an opportunity to shoot them yet. Hoping to get to that this winter. I'd love to turn that gun into a lightweight elk slayer, but the ground we've been hunting more recently is prone to long shots and I like the idea of a bullet with a little more inertia when it gets there. I've read that the 140's are like Thor's hammer out of a 7 mag, wondering if the 150's may even be a little heavy. :dunno:
Post by: jasnt on October 05, 2018, 12:43:46 PM
Post by: kentrek on October 05, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Check out the hammer hunters if you want to go mono
:yeah: look into the deadblow hammer also
Bc isnt really that important unless you plan on shooting over 700-800 hundred yards
Post by: 7mmfan on October 05, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
Post by: WSU on October 05, 2018, 01:51:13 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 05, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Post by: yorketransport on October 05, 2018, 02:22:25 PM
I've switched to the various Hammer bullets for all my hunting lately. I've never personally had a bad experience with the Barnes bullets, but the Hammers shoot better and are much easier to find an accurate load for in my experience. They're designed to perform a little different than the Barnes or E-Tip bullets though. The Barnes and Nosler copper bullets are designed to expand and retain nearly 100% of their weight. The Hammers are designed to shed their petals while the shank penetrates on. Here are examples of the Hammer Hunter, TTSX and E-Tip bullets with similar impact velocities (1850-1950 fps). The Hammer Hunter and the 130 E-Tip are both 270s and the TTSX is a 358.
(https://i.imgur.com/eEOD4io.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/6HZcaU2.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/wIIduMv.jpg?2)
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on November 17, 2018, 12:49:45 PM
http://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/7mm-rem-mag-vs-300-win-mag/
Post by: mountainman on November 17, 2018, 07:17:10 PM
I've shot a lot of TTSX bullets over the years and they've always worked well for me. I've played with a few of the E-Tips too and they've never shot as well and always hit pressure at a lower velocity since the bearing surface on them is ridiculous!Are those recovered from actual flesh and bone or test media?
I've switched to the various Hammer bullets for all my hunting lately. I've never personally had a bad experience with the Barnes bullets, but the Hammers shoot better and are much easier to find an accurate load for in my experience. They're designed to perform a little different than the Barnes or E-Tip bullets though. The Barnes and Nosler copper bullets are designed to expand and retain nearly 100% of their weight. The Hammers are designed to shed their petals while the shank penetrates on. Here are examples of the Hammer Hunter, TTSX and E-Tip bullets with similar impact velocities (1850-1950 fps). The Hammer Hunter and the 130 E-Tip are both 270s and the TTSX is a 358.
(https://i.imgur.com/eEOD4io.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/6HZcaU2.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/wIIduMv.jpg?2)
Post by: yorketransport on November 17, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
I've shot a lot of TTSX bullets over the years and they've always worked well for me. I've played with a few of the E-Tips too and they've never shot as well and always hit pressure at a lower velocity since the bearing surface on them is ridiculous!Are those recovered from actual flesh and bone or test media?
I've switched to the various Hammer bullets for all my hunting lately. I've never personally had a bad experience with the Barnes bullets, but the Hammers shoot better and are much easier to find an accurate load for in my experience. They're designed to perform a little different than the Barnes or E-Tip bullets though. The Barnes and Nosler copper bullets are designed to expand and retain nearly 100% of their weight. The Hammers are designed to shed their petals while the shank penetrates on. Here are examples of the Hammer Hunter, TTSX and E-Tip bullets with similar impact velocities (1850-1950 fps). The Hammer Hunter and the 130 E-Tip are both 270s and the TTSX is a 358.
(https://i.imgur.com/eEOD4io.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/6HZcaU2.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/wIIduMv.jpg?2)
Those came from my bullet trap tests a while back. The test media is apron leather suspended in water. I've never recovered a mono-metal bullet from an animal, they just zip right through after tearing stuff up. :tup:
Post by: kentrek on November 17, 2018, 07:57:21 PM
Post by: JohnVH on November 27, 2018, 08:54:20 AM
Pic with pedals below is from 250yd hit
Pic with the case is from about 80yd hit
Post by: 7mmfan on November 27, 2018, 09:04:51 AM
Post by: JohnVH on November 27, 2018, 09:07:56 AM
Looks like at that speed at close range, it just blows the petals right off. I have a habit of killing animals inside of about 50' despite all my 500 yard practice, so that's a great visual for me.
Yeah, close range it just punches holes, not ideal for sure... I guess they can be slowed down, but I reload for accuracy, and with my load the bullet holes touch. And its flat shooting.
Maybe consider a bigger bullet going slower?
In fact, it does good in every gun it has been run though, some sort of magical combo I guess, weve tried it in 4 different guns and it always groups.
Post by: 7mmfan on November 27, 2018, 09:13:55 AM
Post by: JohnVH on November 27, 2018, 09:16:22 AM
You mind sharing that combo? Pm if you feel more comfortable.
messaged
Post by: mountainman on November 27, 2018, 09:21:53 AM
I reload the 140 TTSX for my 7mag, they are going 3360FPS, and Im thinking its too fast, the closer ones I have recovered dont petal out like in your pics, otherwise we love them... I just have not gotten around to testing anything else.
Pic with pedals below is from 250yd hit
Pic with the case is from about 80yd hit
[/quoteI reload the 140 TTSX for my 7mag, they are going 3360FPS, and Im thinking its too fast, the closer ones I have recovered dont petal out like in your pics, otherwise we love them... I just have not gotten around to testing anything else.Looks like they did what they were supposed to do in both pics. Bottom bullet did petal out, shed petals, and continue. First photo slow enough to retain petals..
Pic with pedals below is from 250yd hit
Pic with the case is from about 80yd hit