Post by: cavemann on October 25, 2018, 12:17:19 PM
Post by: Stein on October 25, 2018, 12:23:47 PM
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 25, 2018, 12:35:51 PM
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Post by: cavemann on October 25, 2018, 01:17:47 PM
Post by: Doublelunger on October 25, 2018, 02:03:34 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 25, 2018, 02:07:09 PM
You can do things to reduce your scent. Who will a blacktail smell first...the hungover guy that crapped his pants, or the guy that was religious about scent control??
:chuckle: Nice.
Post by: Antlershed on October 25, 2018, 02:10:56 PM
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Post by: Eric M on October 25, 2018, 02:28:11 PM
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Post by: Doublelunger on October 25, 2018, 03:25:29 PM
Exactly, scent reduction works even if it is just slightly. Playing the wind is key, but the wind will betray you at the worst times. Especially when bow hunting. If a buck comes into your set and doesn't bust you until he gets to 30 yards instead of 60 that could be the difference. The question is how much money and how much effort do you want to spend to reduce your scent. For most its not much, for me its quite a bit.
Post by: bowNarrow on October 25, 2018, 04:13:13 PM
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Post by: Stein on October 25, 2018, 06:38:30 PM
I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt. Human=danger.
I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom. Nobody is fooled.
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Post by: Antlershed on October 25, 2018, 07:43:09 PM
I sweat too much, can't believe any "scent killing" product would work for me :twocents::yeah:
I snuck in on my bull and his cows and shot him at 80 yards last week. I hadn’t showered in 9 days. :chuckle:
Post by: hunter399 on October 25, 2018, 07:53:54 PM
You can do things to reduce your scent. Who will a blacktail smell first...the hungover guy that crapped his pants, or the guy that was religious about scent control??
:chuckle: Nice.
Every time I fart it smells like I crapped my pants.
Are you saying I should hold it in.
That will make my belly hurt by the end of the day. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Doublelunger on October 26, 2018, 06:24:09 AM
So how does it give you guys extra time? If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?
I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt. Human=danger.
I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom. Nobody is fooled.
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The more your stink the farther away deer can smell you. Think about the guy at the gym who hasn't changed his clothes for a month. You can smell him across the room . Same concept for deer.
Post by: The Marquis on October 26, 2018, 09:20:48 AM
Lastly, I've learned that the sprays don't do a very good job of covering up the smell of butt.
Post by: boneaddict on October 26, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
One of the biggest scam jobs in the industryPart II..... Sucker born every minute.
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 26, 2018, 02:32:34 PM
Post by: skagitsteel on October 26, 2018, 03:21:44 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed in years past, but there are a ton of very knowledgeable black tail guys active the last few days. Any strong opinions on no scent sprays, brands, methods??
save the money take an extra day off work and learn the wind in your spot. scent control is 100% about the wind
Post by: Stein on October 26, 2018, 04:36:06 PM
So how does it give you guys extra time? If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?
I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt. Human=danger.
I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom. Nobody is fooled.
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The more your stink the farther away deer can smell you. Think about the guy at the gym who hasn't changed his clothes for a month. You can smell him across the room . Same concept for deer.
Actually, large smelly molecules travel slower as it takes them longer to diffuse through the air. Heavier molecular weight translates to slower velocity, at least it did in my last physics class. The only thing that impacts the velocity of the "smell" is the size of the particles (as well as other stuff we can't control like barometric pressure, temp, etc).
Take a piece of steak, spray the magic spray on it and show it to your dog. He'll show you how neutralized the scent is. If there was a way to neutralize scent with spray, you would have an effective can of that in your bathroom instead of the fake rose scent. Even if it was possible, 5 minutes later you body would produce scent again.
Besides your body, you have clothes, boots, rifle, bow, bottles of water you handled, lunch, wallet, knife and a dozen other things that all have some type of human or unnatural smell that gives you away.
I read a book and it had a story about a drug sniffing dog that sniffed out a small package of drugs hidden in the gas tank of a motorcycle. The gas and sealed tank couldn't block or mask the scent, many animals pick out scents separately. Dog's don't smell chili, they smell all of the ingredients separately. I imagine deer are similar.
To each their own, if you think it works go for it.
Post by: Doublelunger on October 26, 2018, 05:06:58 PM
I've been archery hunting WA for 10 years. I have killed two whitetail bucks over 160". I'm a LOUSY hunter but I'm extremely patient and I'm religious about scent control. One of those two bucks was 8 years old, very wise and came in to 22 yards in swirly wind and never knew I was there. The other one was 6 years old and came in from strait down wind to 17 yards and never knew I was there. I'm lucky but I'm not that lucky.
So does practicing scent control make me a sucker? If so I'm pretty happy to be one every time I look at my wall!
Post by: Eric M on October 26, 2018, 05:48:20 PM
Made me remember, Febreze couldnt sell. It was an odor neutralizer with no smell of it's own. They had to add the smells to get it to sell.So how does it give you guys extra time? If it somehow reduces your scent by 75%, wouldn’t the remaining 25% travel the exact same speed?
I would think that if they are going to bolt, they bolt. Human=danger.
I also believe cover scent or neutralizer works about as well as the stuff in a bathroom. Nobody is fooled.
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The more your stink the farther away deer can smell you. Think about the guy at the gym who hasn't changed his clothes for a month. You can smell him across the room . Same concept for deer.
Actually, large smelly molecules travel slower as it takes them longer to diffuse through the air. Heavier molecular weight translates to slower velocity, at least it did in my last physics class. The only thing that impacts the velocity of the "smell" is the size of the particles (as well as other stuff we can't control like barometric pressure, temp, etc).
Take a piece of steak, spray the magic spray on it and show it to your dog. He'll show you how neutralized the scent is. If there was a way to neutralize scent with spray, you would have an effective can of that in your bathroom instead of the fake rose scent. Even if it was possible, 5 minutes later you body would produce scent again.
Besides your body, you have clothes, boots, rifle, bow, bottles of water you handled, lunch, wallet, knife and a dozen other things that all have some type of human or unnatural smell that gives you away.
I read a book and it had a story about a drug sniffing dog that sniffed out a small package of drugs hidden in the gas tank of a motorcycle. The gas and sealed tank couldn't block or mask the scent, many animals pick out scents separately. Dog's don't smell chili, they smell all of the ingredients separately. I imagine deer are similar.
To each their own, if you think it works go for it.
Post by: Okanagan on October 26, 2018, 07:19:18 PM
Rifle hunting it's not as big of a deal. If your mobile and not hunting out of a tree stand or ground blind its very easy to play the wind. But IMO you won't find a lot of guys that consistantly kill big whitetail or blacktail with a bow who don't use or practice some sort of scent control.
I've been archery hunting WA for 10 years. I have killed two whitetail bucks over 160". I'm a LOUSY hunter but I'm extremely patient and I'm religious about scent control. One of those two bucks was 8 years old, very wise and came in to 22 yards in swirly wind and never knew I was there. The other one was 6 years old and came in from strait down wind to 17 yards and never knew I was there. I'm lucky but I'm not that lucky.
So does practicing scent control make me a sucker? If so I'm pretty happy to be one every time I look at my wall!
With respect, we have no idea whether the buck knew you were there or not. The fact is that you killed both of them. What the deer smelled, thought, etc. etc. is beyond our knowledge. At best it is a theory.
I have had bull elk, bull moose, mule deer and black bears plus called coyotes and fox all within touching distance. All without scent control on my part. Blacktails, lynx, bobcats and caribou within ten feet or considerably less. What does it prove? That I got close to them. Period.
Recently when I was still hunting along an old road, a mule deer stepped onto the road 25 yards downwind of me. She walked up the wind toward me to within ten yards, and then casually strolled off of the road to feed. She never knew I was there, in spite of a McDonald's hamburger on my breath and my Good Will store wool dress pants and plaid shirt. This event is proof positive that a deer cannot smell a hamburger nor see a human carrying a rifle if he is wearing second hand clothes from Good Will.
Go for it if it gives you confidence or is part of getting into your game face mental state for hunting. I do not mean to discourage that, yet I hate to see inexperienced hunters put effort and money into what I consider useless effort to defeat wild animal scenting ability.
Post by: Eric M on October 26, 2018, 07:52:10 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 26, 2018, 08:22:26 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed in years past, but there are a ton of very knowledgeable black tail guys active the last few days. Any strong opinions on no scent sprays, brands, methods??
save the money take an extra day off work and learn the wind in your spot. scent control is 100% about the wind
Some areas I would agree but that’s laughable in the swirly places, of which there are a lot
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 26, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
The best method is to take the money and put it right back in your pocket.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :yeah:
Post by: Tiger1358 on October 26, 2018, 09:05:05 PM
Your breath is what mostly they smell, so just eat an apple, good old method to eliminate the scent ;). No need to waste money on those "scent killers".
Keep it simple and use the wind !
Post by: Okanagan on October 27, 2018, 09:28:10 AM
You can thank me later.
Post by: DeArBuCK4me on October 30, 2018, 01:02:17 PM
Post by: Sandberm on October 30, 2018, 01:23:31 PM
Probably get a rash or something.
Post by: vandeman17 on October 30, 2018, 01:51:53 PM
Ive toyed with the idea of putting my hunting costume in a garbage bag with some sagebrush, shaking the bag vigorously every time I walk by it for a week. Sort of like marinating clothes.
Probably get a rash or something.
i do it with the totes i store mine in. Never got a rash and no need to shake :hello:
Post by: PolarBear on October 30, 2018, 02:01:29 PM
I sweat too much, can't believe any "scent killing" product would work for me :twocents:Sweat? Hell, you were always freezing if the temps were under 70 degrees! :chuckle:
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