Post by: hoover9_7 on November 01, 2018, 11:05:58 AM
Post by: Doublelunger on November 01, 2018, 11:12:14 AM
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Post by: Buckhunter82 on November 01, 2018, 11:49:22 AM
Post by: fastdam on November 01, 2018, 12:30:09 PM
Post by: hoover9_7 on November 01, 2018, 12:33:00 PM
All I'm saying is that the camera was set up on Oct. 22nd, about a week before elk season and it was gone when I checked opening day Oct. 27th. Don't think there were too many anti hunters/hikers in that area that far into the canyon during that week. It was more than likely a hunter scouting for elk and stealing cameras.
Post by: Buckhunter82 on November 01, 2018, 12:43:11 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on November 01, 2018, 12:55:16 PM
It could very well be a hunter. I usually pull cameras before season just to avoid the possibility. I just disagree with the idea that it was obviously a hunter. Sorry about your camera. Ive had one disappear but I think it was a bear. The bears aint getting them now lolwe went to check a cam last year. Hiked in and it wasn’t there. Cable and lock were still wrapped around the tree. Got looking around a little bit and somone Else has one set up two trees away. I was pissed. My first thought was they took ours down. But I thought to myself that they would have to be pretty *censored* to steal ours and putvtheres up. I came to the conclusion a bear must have ripped it off the tree and broke the plastic that the cable went through. Was your cable and lock still on the tree?
Post by: BreezyBear on November 01, 2018, 12:58:45 PM
Post by: Buckhunter82 on November 01, 2018, 01:01:32 PM
Post by: bornhunter on November 01, 2018, 01:45:32 PM
Post by: JohnD on November 01, 2018, 03:30:20 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 01, 2018, 04:03:49 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on November 01, 2018, 06:49:15 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 01, 2018, 06:53:34 PM
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 01, 2018, 07:03:30 PM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 01, 2018, 07:31:41 PM
Post by: Twispriver on November 01, 2018, 09:09:15 PM
Post by: optic2 on November 01, 2018, 09:47:44 PM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
Post by: Turner89 on November 01, 2018, 10:10:29 PM
I guess some people's way out could be different than others:yeah:
I've never had a camera stolen or have I had a pic of a human ......that I can think of anyhow.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 01, 2018, 10:14:15 PM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
The two that I had taken were legally placed and labeled to say so. Used to help run quite a few that are a half a days walk just to get to them. Full day to get to them on skis.
I knew where all of them were as all the setups are well documented.
Post by: LongBomb on November 02, 2018, 05:20:10 AM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
Cameras aren't allowed in Wilderness Areas?
Post by: optic2 on November 02, 2018, 12:44:15 PM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
Cameras aren't allowed in Wilderness Areas?
Not in federally designated wilderness areas like Alpine Lakes, Goat Rocks, etc.
Post by: millerwheeler on December 14, 2018, 09:38:07 PM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
Cameras aren't allowed in Wilderness Areas?
Not in federally designated wilderness areas like Alpine Lakes, Goat Rocks,
Guess I'm a super law breaker never heard of that
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 15, 2018, 05:57:36 AM
Where did you get that idea from?I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
Cameras aren't allowed in Wilderness Areas?
Not in federally designated wilderness areas like Alpine Lakes, Goat Rocks, etc.
Post by: Timberstalker on December 15, 2018, 06:30:03 AM
I can't see spending more than $40 on a trail camera or spending additional money to lock them up as a person will take them if they really want them.
Had two $20 cams walk off last year that were the farthest from the road, yet I had a camera in a tree 3' off a main road last 3 winters and it was still there all 3 springs when I went to get it.
This is what I don't get, Seems like most cams stolen are always "way back in deep" or on private. :dunno:
Makes me go hmmmmmmm??
I feel like the way back deep are two things. If they are in a wilderness area then it isn't legal to place them there. Or if it isn't in a wilderness area then another hunter who thinks it's "his spot" doesn't really want you there.
Cameras aren't allowed in Wilderness Areas?
Not in federally designated wilderness areas like Alpine Lakes, Goat Rocks, etc.
Please provide a law or source for this information.
@optic2
Post by: 92xj on December 15, 2018, 07:38:46 AM
No personal belongings can be left for over 48 hours.( I believe is the time limit)
This also includes a small salt block as I had a very long conversation 4 miles in a wilderness with a forest service officer.
They're are aTON of hunters breaking the law/rule on this.
Post by: Timberstalker on December 15, 2018, 07:41:51 AM
He is correct.
No personal belongings can be left for over 48 hours.( I believe is the time limit)
This also includes a small salt block as I had a very long conversation 4 miles in a wilderness with a forest service officer.
They're are aTON of hunters breaking the law/rule on this.
Looks like you can’t camp in there for more than 48 hours then.
Post by: 92xj on December 15, 2018, 07:49:55 AM
He is correct.
No personal belongings can be left for over 48 hours.( I believe is the time limit)
This also includes a small salt block as I had a very long conversation 4 miles in a wilderness with a forest service officer.
They're are aTON of hunters breaking the law/rule on this.
Looks like you can’t camp in there for more than 48 hours then.
His wording was you can camp and do whatever you want, bur once you leave the wilderness all your belongings that you brought in with you have to also leave the wilderness within 48 hours. This was 5 years ago though, so something could have changed
Post by: 92xj on December 15, 2018, 07:55:23 AM
He is correct.
No personal belongings can be left for over 48 hours.( I believe is the time limit)
This also includes a small salt block as I had a very long conversation 4 miles in a wilderness with a forest service officer.
They're are aTON of hunters breaking the law/rule on this.
Looks like you can’t camp in there for more than 48 hours then.
I also guess I should have said personal belongings can't be left unattended for over 48 hours.
Post by: 92xj on December 15, 2018, 07:58:12 AM
Things could be different now or that guy could have been being a jerk. Doesn't matter to me either way.
Post by: Timberstalker on December 15, 2018, 08:58:01 AM
Post by: 92xj on December 15, 2018, 09:04:24 AM
Good information.
Yeah, it was something I had no idea about and didn't even think was an issue.
Post by: 92xj on December 18, 2018, 05:20:47 AM
This is the wording the forest service guy must have been referring to when he had his little chat with me.
"Caching or storing equipment, personal property, or supplies is prohibited (36 CFR 261.57(f)). Caching is defined to mean leaving equipment unattended for more than 48 hours."
I guess salt blocks and trail cameras are considered "caching" when dealing with the wilderness and forest service law folks.
See the 8th bullet
https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/giffordpinchot/specialplaces/?cid=stelprdb5137394
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 18, 2018, 06:39:24 AM
Post by: Timberstalker on December 18, 2018, 08:23:33 PM
I’d say that is for people leaving camps and supplies in a wilderness.
Regardless, it’s not specific so I may lose that’s argument.
Solid information. Thanks for sharing.