Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Kvw4x4 on November 18, 2018, 08:27:59 AM
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So recently I have got pictures of 2 dandy bucks. Any advice on going about getting permission. I’ll be able to bow hunt and usually feel people more will willing to let you hunt their land that way. But need to approach this the right way. Thanks!!
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Bring presents salmon usually works or oysters
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Offer lots of good booze! :chuckle:
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Offer to do labor like fix fences or clean up. To me that goes a lot farther than a bribe. :chuckle:
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Offer to do labor like fix fences or clean up. To me that goes a lot farther than a bribe. :chuckle:
:yeah:
Shows the landowner you are willing to earn their permission and also helps them out by knocking something needed done off their checklist.
If they allow you access to hunt, when done, regardless of success or not, then present them with a thank you gift of some type...
Good luck, either one of those boys would certainly be worth the extra effort...
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Offer to do labor like fix fences or clean up. To me that goes a lot farther than a bribe. :chuckle:
:yeah:
Shows the landowner you are willing to earn their permission and also helps them out by knocking something needed done off their checklist.
If they allow you access to hunt, when done, regardless of success or not, then present them with a thank you gift of some type...
Good luck, either one of those boys would certainly be worth the extra effort...
Ya that’s the way I’m leaning. The trick is The owner isn’t local. He has renters in the house.
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I always wear a hat and remove it when introducing myself. I then apologize for the intrusion on their day or evening. Always look for common ground for a good conversation even if they say no at first I've turned it into a yes after 15 minutes of chit chat. Be clean and have good manners.
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Is there a corner you can cross?...oops different thread
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Whoa! Studly bucks. Awesome!
Good luck!
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I would pass on the first one after laying eye’s on the second one. Both awsome animals😳
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Mashers, seeing your in Blaine and owner isn't local I'd check the tax/owner contact info or Onx maps. Make contact and explain how your going to hunt (Bow,From foot,ground blind tree stand etc) . If your lucky you'll get permission, if it's a dink from California that owns it you might have to settle for your pictures, any way you cut it good luck.
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A “dink from California”. Wow...
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A “dink from California”. Wow...
Lol. Ya a little quick to judge everyone in that state I would say
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A card in the mail with a letter of introduction to landowner, explain who you are and a copy of your "code of ethics" from the back of your hunter safety certificate.
Explain that you will leave no trace and respect any days they will allow you to hunt, or days not to...
Showing respect goes a long ways..
Or look up tax records and offer to pay yearly tax...
(That's how the "guide who shall not be named" gets access.)
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an Offer to share some of the harvest isn't a bad idea either.
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Do not do the card in the mail!!! Every time we get one of these it screams lazy! And immediately gets round filled. Not all land owners are the same but a general conversation can go along way, I can get a pretty good read on someone after a 5 min conversation
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Dig up some dirt on them and then black mail them. JUST KIDDING!!
Perhaps you can tell them that their garden or flowers will be safer.
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Little update. So yesterday when I got pictures of this buck I went and asked for permission. The renter contacted the owner while I was there and he said to tell me no hunting. I felt like using the renter in the middle was probably not the best way to go about it. But it was a spur of the moment thing. I used my onX but couldn’t find anything on the written owner. So I google the tax address. A Canadian one. I came up with a number and called it. The property owner answered. I explained why I called and he said ya I know I was called yesterday by the renter and said no. I kinda kept talking to him admitting I didn’t really think it was right to contact him through his renter. I then offered to help him with work or other needed repairs, I noticed he had no “no hunting” signs anywhere he said he really has never had people ask for permission to hunt. But a couple years ago somebody shot a window out on a shop he has. I told him the first this I would do is post the property and also be willing to keep an eye on it. He started to change his tune. And pulled his “no” off the table. But said he needs to talk to the Neighbour’s a bit and will then let me know. So now I wait. Haha. So much anticipation. I also told him I would be willing to only bow hunt. I have a multi season deer tag.
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Way to stay at it and possibly get a yes. That 2nd buck looks like a pretty special blacktail.
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Way to stay after it sounds like you did good they way you were talk8ng to him
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Play the long game.
If he tells you "No," or if he doesn't tell you anything, and you have to call again, counter-offer him this. Give up on this season, and ask him to let you prove yourself in 2019 (fixing fences, etc.). I'lll bet you a nickel you get permission next year.
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Do not do the card in the mail!!! Every time we get one of these it screams lazy! And immediately gets round filled. Not all land owners are the same but a general conversation can go along way, I can get a pretty good read on someone after a 5 min conversation
If the landowner is not local, it might be hard to have a face to face conversation.
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Bring a child with you and a Christmas basket full of goodies--permission granted on first try. If they refuse then bow your head and walk away humbly take your gift and instruct the child to cry-- next thing you know you will be killing the buck.
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Do not do the card in the mail!!! Every time we get one of these it screams lazy! And immediately gets round filled. Not all land owners are the same but a general conversation can go along way, I can get a pretty good read on someone after a 5 min conversation
If the landowner is not local, it might be hard to have a face to face conversation.
He lives 30 min away. For a a buck like this no big deal
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Little update. So yesterday when I got pictures of this buck I went and asked for permission. The renter contacted the owner while I was there and he said to tell me no hunting. I felt like using the renter in the middle was probably not the best way to go about it. But it was a spur of the moment thing. I used my onX but couldn’t find anything on the written owner. So I google the tax address. A Canadian one. I came up with a number and called it. The property owner answered. I explained why I called and he said ya I know I was called yesterday by the renter and said no. I kinda kept talking to him admitting I didn’t really think it was right to contact him through his renter. I then offered to help him with work or other needed repairs, I noticed he had no “no hunting” signs anywhere he said he really has never had people ask for permission to hunt. But a couple years ago somebody shot a window out on a shop he has. I told him the first this I would do is post the property and also be willing to keep an eye on it. He started to change his tune. And pulled his “no” off the table. But said he needs to talk to the Neighbour’s a bit and will then let me know. So now I wait. Haha. So much anticipation. I also told him I would be willing to only bow hunt. I have a multi season deer tag.
Nice, I heard an podcast where they guy does the same thing about posting the property free for the owner. He also references the laws and offers a signed paper releasing the owner of any liability if he gets hurt. You may consider something like that, maybe even agreeing in writing to cover any damage you cause or even agreeing to only hunt certain portions of the property that are X yards (well lower than maximum weapon range) from buildings, etc.
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We talked today he was asking his insurance. I offered to get coverage of some sort. Anyone know anything about this. What company? How much would it cost? Thanks
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If you have homeowner's insurance, call and ask your agent. If not, if your auto insurance also does homeowner's call them, they should be able to give to informed answers fairly quickly.
Good luck!
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just sign a release see this NRA one
http://hservices.nra.org/documents/pdf/hunterservices/hunter_landowner_agreement.pdf
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:drool:
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Yup what you need to do is sign a RELEASE OF LIABILITY WAIVER for the landowner. This will be signed by you and state that in the event of any personal injury or property damage incurred by you on his property you RELEASE HIM from LIABILITY for any such things. This can be filed with his insurance company, and he is fully protected against you suing for any reason.
I work with private landowners frequently, and we always use these to put the landowners minds at ease. You should be able to easily find a demo waiver form on Google.
Good luck sounds like it's going to work out!