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Title: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Cylvertip on November 26, 2018, 11:07:37 PM
Anybody but tires from Amazon?  They seem to have a good deal with free shipping on the BFG's I want.  Plus, Pep boys has a deal with them to install for $19.99 a tire.  Pep boys quoted right at $1450 for the same tires.  Amazon is $249 a tire plus tax and $19.99 install.  Even if I have to throw in $20 a tire for lifetime balance and rotation, seems hard to beat.  Pep boys usually gets my tire business as they have been competitive and good to work with. 
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Special T on November 26, 2018, 11:13:46 PM
let me get this straight... Pep boys quoted you $500 more but will mount your Amazon tires? they charge you $120 more for mount balance etc... and are ok with that? Kind of sounds like a no brainier especially if you have TPMS sensors
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Cylvertip on November 26, 2018, 11:19:42 PM
The Pep Boys quote was mounted, balanced, and out the door with lifetime rotation/ balancing.  Total price with Amazon tires looks to be a couple hundred less.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: trapp01 on November 27, 2018, 05:30:48 AM
Yep I bought mine from amazon. I had Schwab mount them up for $150. Still ended up saving around $800. I rotate my own tires and schwab charges $20 to fix a flat.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 27, 2018, 07:27:45 AM
I have, but Discount Tire had same price on Goodyear Duratracs when it was time to replace them.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 27, 2018, 07:37:23 AM
See if discount tire will match those prices and do it.  Some things I just won't give my money to Amazon for.  Don't care if I save a few bucks.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: huntnfmly on November 27, 2018, 08:10:50 AM
I've done it and discount tire will match the price for the tire and whatever it would cost to ship.
Saved me $700 on a set of bfg km2
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: jackelope on November 27, 2018, 09:01:09 AM
Pretty much everyone selling tires will price match as long as we're comparing apples to apples....We will, but if it's a place like Amazon or tirerack.com we add $20.00 to each tire price to account for shipping, etc. Most places make almost no money off of tires...they just hope to get the wheels off the vehicle to inspect brakes and shocks and such. Schwab lovesssss to replace shocks and struts.

We will not install Amazon or any other mail order company tires. It's just not worth it.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 27, 2018, 09:09:55 AM
 :chuckle: bad brakes, need them done asap and we can't let you leave the lot for liability reasons.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: jackelope on November 27, 2018, 09:13:32 AM
:chuckle: bad brakes, need them done asap and we can't let you leave the lot for liability reasons.

I've heard of this. Straight BS. I have made people sign an invoice acknowledging their car was unsafe to drive, but you can't forbid someone from driving away in their car. Do what you have to do to CYA and let them roll.
 :dunno:
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: 724wd on November 27, 2018, 09:28:44 AM
I bought my Michelin's on amazon. saved almost $100 per tire. but I also go them mounted and balanced for free... pays to have family with the right equipment  :chuckle:

although... dang. My dad closed his shop. No more free alignments, tire mounting, body work, paint, windshield installation...  :'(  @woodchuck, you don't know anyone with that kind of hookup, do you?  :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Special T on November 27, 2018, 09:32:40 AM
I think we are going to see more  of this drop ship lean inventory in the pipeline. I talked to a Tire shop manager whom said he is increasingly seeing online prices being shown to him that are lower than his purchase price.  If there is no return on holding inventory Tire stores wont hold stock except for the really quick movers, which is hard with all the sizes and brands out there,and/or for the really good customers... In short this is a is an acceleration and  thinning out of the supply chain.

What does this mean for consumers...

Freebees are going away. you are now going to pay for everything. If you have a blow out and need an XYZ brand tire and size you are going to pay a premium unless you can wait. I belive we have already seen a rise in the number of small  independent used tire shops that are certified installers for drop ship companies. They will only hold used inventory and virtually no new tires. Most people have noticed the rise in used tire shops popping up everywhere. In order to survive selling your service your overhead and investment in inventory has to be low.

If you run non stock tire size you should own a full sized spare for your ride on a wheel. If you have a pre 09 non TPMS  vehicle then you can probably get away with just the tire just in case. most tire shops wont install a tire older than 7-10 years old. If its already on a wheel you can swap it out yourself.

This is a great resource for Pre 09 vehicle so that you can source a spare on a wheel.
https://www.crawlpedia.com/bolt_patterns.htm
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Woodchuck on November 27, 2018, 09:37:16 AM
I bought my Michelin's on amazon. saved almost $100 per tire. but I also go them mounted and balanced for free... pays to have family with the right equipment  :chuckle:

although... dang. My dad closed his shop. No more free alignments, tire mounting, body work, paint, windshield installation...  :'(  @Woodchuck, you don't know anyone with that kind of hookup, do you?  :dunno: :chuckle:
I may know a guy... 8)
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Mudman on November 27, 2018, 10:02:00 AM
I buy trailer tires online.  Been good tires, better then Les Sch expensive flats.  Schwabby mounts em and it saves me half with a better tire imop.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: WSU on November 27, 2018, 10:05:51 AM
Sooooo, what's a good all terrain tire to buy for an F150?  I haul heavy loads occassionally, pull a large (for f150) travel trailer often, drive in snow at times, and drive on logging roads (including timber co crushed rock that seems to eat tires) often.  I'm not into offroading and the majority of the use will be to and from work/around town. 

If the OP doesn't want me to hijack, let me know and I'll delete.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Curly on November 27, 2018, 10:23:40 AM
Sooooo, what's a good all terrain tire to buy for an F150?  I haul heavy loads occassionally, pull a large (for f150) travel trailer often, drive in snow at times, and drive on logging roads (including timber co crushed rock that seems to eat tires) often.  I'm not into offroading and the majority of the use will be to and from work/around town. 

If the OP doesn't want me to hijack, let me know and I'll delete.

I put Cooper Discoverer AT3's on my 1/2 ton last year and I'm really happy with them.  I went with an LT tire and E rating.
http://us.coopertire.com/tires/discoverer-a-t3-suv.aspx
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 27, 2018, 10:28:47 AM
I have been happy with the longevity and traction with the Goodyear Duratracs on an F350.  I replaced mine a bit prematurely with about 1/4" tread left, and there was a noticeable difference going over the passes with all the standing water over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: jackelope on November 27, 2018, 02:12:32 PM
I think we are going to see more  of this drop ship lean inventory in the pipeline. I talked to a Tire shop manager whom said he is increasingly seeing online prices being shown to him that are lower than his purchase price.  If there is no return on holding inventory Tire stores wont hold stock except for the really quick movers, which is hard with all the sizes and brands out there,and/or for the really good customers... In short this is a is an acceleration and  thinning out of the supply chain.

What does this mean for consumers...

Freebees are going away. you are now going to pay for everything. If you have a blow out and need an XYZ brand tire and size you are going to pay a premium unless you can wait. I belive we have already seen a rise in the number of small  independent used tire shops that are certified installers for drop ship companies. They will only hold used inventory and virtually no new tires. Most people have noticed the rise in used tire shops popping up everywhere. In order to survive selling your service your overhead and investment in inventory has to be low.

If you run non stock tire size you should own a full sized spare for your ride on a wheel. If you have a pre 09 non TPMS  vehicle then you can probably get away with just the tire just in case. most tire shops wont install a tire older than 7-10 years old. If its already on a wheel you can swap it out yourself.

This is a great resource for Pre 09 vehicle so that you can source a spare on a wheel.
https://www.crawlpedia.com/bolt_patterns.htm

There is a set of Michelins for sale in the classifieds. I posted a screenshot of my price on them, indicating that it was a smoking deal. I looked them up on Amazon....they're a lot less than my cost on them on Amazon and we hardly make any money on tires. 10% over cost is about where we're at to stay competitive.

(Those tires in the classifieds are still cheaper than amazon for the record)
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Special T on November 27, 2018, 02:31:10 PM
I think we are going to see more  of this drop ship lean inventory in the pipeline. I talked to a Tire shop manager whom said he is increasingly seeing online prices being shown to him that are lower than his purchase price.  If there is no return on holding inventory Tire stores wont hold stock except for the really quick movers, which is hard with all the sizes and brands out there,and/or for the really good customers... In short this is a is an acceleration and  thinning out of the supply chain.

What does this mean for consumers...

Freebees are going away. you are now going to pay for everything. If you have a blow out and need an XYZ brand tire and size you are going to pay a premium unless you can wait. I belive we have already seen a rise in the number of small  independent used tire shops that are certified installers for drop ship companies. They will only hold used inventory and virtually no new tires. Most people have noticed the rise in used tire shops popping up everywhere. In order to survive selling your service your overhead and investment in inventory has to be low.

If you run non stock tire size you should own a full sized spare for your ride on a wheel. If you have a pre 09 non TPMS  vehicle then you can probably get away with just the tire just in case. most tire shops wont install a tire older than 7-10 years old. If its already on a wheel you can swap it out yourself.

This is a great resource for Pre 09 vehicle so that you can source a spare on a wheel.
https://www.crawlpedia.com/bolt_patterns.htm

There is a set of Michelins for sale in the classifieds. I posted a screenshot of my price on them, indicating that it was a smoking deal. I looked them up on Amazon....they're a lot less than my cost on them on Amazon and we hardly make any money on tires. 10% over cost is about where we're at to stay competitive.

(Those tires in the classifieds are still cheaper than amazon for the record)

Im a big fan of buying used tires when i find a good deal. the only new tires I buy are for my wifes car.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Special T on November 27, 2018, 02:33:17 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,217506.0.html

I think its important to know how to change a tire just like do an oil service, timing belt, and basic tune up.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: lamrith on November 27, 2018, 02:39:27 PM
Yes, I bought General G-MAX AS-05's for $95/ea SHIPPED (Usually they are $190/ea for my size).  Then I bought Cooper CS5 Ultra's for my kids car as well.  Challenge at times can be finding a shop to install them and not rake you over the coals.  Also worth nothing, if the price is not super crazy cheaper on Amazon, take the print-out in to Discount tire, they will usually price match.

For those that use Amazon.  Make sure you use smile.amazon.com  Smile lets you select a charity of your choice and a donation is made for every purchase you do.  My Charity is the NRA Foundation, Inc.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: baker5150 on November 27, 2018, 03:54:05 PM
Yes, I bought General G-MAX AS-05's for $95/ea SHIPPED (Usually they are $190/ea for my size).  Then I bought Cooper CS5 Ultra's for my kids car as well.  Challenge at times can be finding a shop to install them and not rake you over the coals.  Also worth nothing, if the price is not super crazy cheaper on Amazon, take the print-out in to Discount tire, they will usually price match.

For those that use Amazon.  Make sure you use smile.amazon.com  Smile lets you select a charity of your choice and a donation is made for every purchase you do.  My Charity is the NRA Foundation, Inc.

I see what you did there..... :tup: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Lucky Eric on November 27, 2018, 06:21:28 PM
I've done it and discount tire will match the price for the tire and whatever it would cost to ship.
Saved me $700 on a set of bfg km2
So let me get this right, Discount tire matched the price for the same tire on Amazon?
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Alchase on November 27, 2018, 06:48:40 PM
Discount Tire has been great to me.
I bought my set of Cooler ATs a few years ago for my Dakota. Had 21k on them when I had a blowout through the tread.
I was going to scrap the Coopers and go back to the tried and true 10 ply BFG AT KOs.
Discount gave me 80% credit for the Coopers, applied to the AT KOs.
Got them for half off, and they mounted the best Cooper on my spare for free.
Even though they had the lowest price on the BFGs, “Good customer service”, I will reword with my business, even if I pay a few dollars more.

Les Schwuab, will never see my business again.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: pup0025 on November 27, 2018, 10:53:52 PM
I bought a tire machine and balancer off Amazon.  The mayflower brand and they work good.  I gave up after Schwab's quoted me over 2000 bucks for tires on my wife's Yukon.  275/60/20.  Toyo open country.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Caseyd on November 28, 2018, 12:54:15 AM
Sooooo, what's a good all terrain tire to buy for an F150?  I haul heavy loads occassionally, pull a large (for f150) travel trailer often, drive in snow at times, and drive on logging roads (including timber co crushed rock that seems to eat tires) often.  I'm not into offroading and the majority of the use will be to and from work/around town. 

If the OP doesn't want me to hijack, let me know and I'll delete.

Duratracs would be my vote. On my 3rd set. Have also ran the Cooper St Max and liked it but prefer the duratrac a little more in the winter.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 28, 2018, 05:57:31 AM
I've done it and discount tire will match the price for the tire and whatever it would cost to ship.
Saved me $700 on a set of bfg km2
So let me get this right, Discount tire matched the price for the same tire on Amazon?

I didn't need to get them to match, they already were at the same price.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Odell on November 28, 2018, 06:42:57 AM
Discount Tire has been great to me.
I bought my set of Cooler ATs a few years ago for my Dakota. Had 21k on them when I had a blowout through the tread.
I was going to scrap the Coopers and go back to the tried and true 10 ply BFG AT KOs.
Discount gave me 80% credit for the Coopers, applied to the AT KOs.
Got them for half off, and they mounted the best Cooper on my spare for free.
Even though they had the lowest price on the BFGs, “Good customer service”, I will reword with my business, even if I pay a few dollars more.

Les Schwuab, will never see my business again.

I'm with you on that but I still pull in and make them check my air all the time.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Alchase on November 28, 2018, 11:51:05 AM
Discount Tire has been great to me.
I bought my set of Cooler ATs a few years ago for my Dakota. Had 21k on them when I had a blowout through the tread.
I was going to scrap the Coopers and go back to the tried and true 10 ply BFG AT KOs.
Discount gave me 80% credit for the Coopers, applied to the AT KOs.
Got them for half off, and they mounted the best Cooper on my spare for free.
Even though they had the lowest price on the BFGs, “Good customer service”, I will reword with my business, even if I pay a few dollars more.

Les Schwuab, will never see my business again.

I'm with you on that but I still pull in and make them check my air all the time.

After the crap they tried to pull, I thought about pulling into Les Schwab's on a rainy day, park at the furthest spot available, let them run out to my car, and when they get up to the door, drive away slowly,

And doing this over, and over, and over........

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: huntnfmly on November 28, 2018, 11:55:20 AM
I've done it and discount tire will match the price for the tire and whatever it would cost to ship.
Saved me $700 on a set of bfg km2
So let me get this right, Discount tire matched the price for the same tire on Amazon?
Yes I just brought in add I found with price on the computer and all they added was the price of shipping
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Bwana Bob on November 28, 2018, 01:52:15 PM
Discount tire matched the price of the tire rack on 4 Falken wild peak at-3 ten ply tires. I researched the hell out of them and couldn't be happier. Just came back from WY on real icy roads both in WY and on I-90. Awesome tires and much less than the BF/ko2's There the best tires I ever used foe hunting and winter driving.
They will get my business again
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: KopperBuck on November 28, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
I saved almost $80/tire buying off of Walmart.com. BFG KO2s. First time I didn't go through Schwab.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: thinkingman on November 29, 2018, 10:30:25 AM
After being a devoted Michelin AT buyer, I have had good experience with Cooper and now, Falken Wildpeak AT3W.  The LT tires ride better than the Michelins.  Traction on ice remains to be seen.  Discount Tire has been very good to work with.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Doublelunger on November 29, 2018, 11:20:45 AM
Discount tire matched the price of the tire rack on 4 Falken wild peak at-3 ten ply tires. I researched the hell out of them and couldn't be happier. Just came back from WY on real icy roads both in WY and on I-90. Awesome tires and much less than the BF/ko2's There the best tires I ever used foe hunting and winter driving.
They will get my business again

Falken wild peak atw3's are awesome. Bought a new truck that came with toyo MT's and I'm almost looking forward to replacing them so I can get some Falkens again.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Cylvertip on December 25, 2018, 10:21:51 PM
Pep Boys ended up matching Amazon's price for the tires, and then installed them formless than Amazon's agreement.  Their installation included rotation and balancing for life too.  With tax, I was out the door for $1180 for the BFG KM2 255/85-16's.  Saved approx $65 a tire. 
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Dan-o on December 25, 2018, 10:26:57 PM
Firestone matched.... way less hassle.
Title: Re: Tires from Amazon?
Post by: Cylvertip on February 25, 2019, 11:41:44 AM
Putting the the new shoes to use on Mt Loop/ Green Mt Road.

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