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Community => Trail Cameras => Topic started by: wonder on December 01, 2018, 08:53:36 PM

Title: What Kind of Bird is this?
Post by: wonder on December 01, 2018, 08:53:36 PM: Had a bird feasting on our young chicks last week. Killed 3 of them in one afternoon and carried none out of the coup? Main chicken coup is completely covered next door to this enclosure as this is a makeshift rearing area that we did not intend to house a new batch of chicks but were forced to due to a rebel hen that got out and hatched 16 babies.

One bird was killed and left intact, one bird was partially devoured, and one bird was devoured and it looks like some predator attempted to drag it thru our horse fence but it got stuck.

That last bird was picked clean? I am thinking it's a Goshawk based on it's size and plumage. It looks too big for a Sharp Shinned or Coopers but was hoping we have a resident expert out there with Raptors?
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Post by: bowhunterforever on December 01, 2018, 08:57:55 PM: Looks like a falcon to me
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Post by: buckcanyonlodge on December 01, 2018, 10:11:26 PM: Sharp shinned hawk..They loved my chickens until they learned not to dine on Col. Wakefields chicken.
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Post by: Old Dog on December 02, 2018, 12:22:12 AM: ...or possibly a Cooper's hawk. They are marked a lot like the sharp shinned, but are a little bigger. :dunno:
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Post by: wonder on December 02, 2018, 02:59:04 PM: After looking thru my Sibley's guide I am leaning on that too. Sharp Shinned is kind of small and it says they are only 11 inches tall where as Cooper's Hawk is about 16.5 inches. Goshawk jumps all the way up to 21 inches and the coloring doesn't match unless this one was juvenile? Hopefully I can get a color picture next time. Light was too low so my camera just took a black and white.

Thanks for the feedback. Let all the chickens run around this morning until an hour a go and no losses. Never ending battle when you are in their territory.
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Post by: HighlandLofts on December 03, 2018, 03:52:12 AM: Looks like a cooper hawk, same color and they dine on other birds for the most part. There generally move on after a few days. They sit out of view and ambush their victim and chickens are easy pickings. The usually pluck the head off when they get their prey in their tallons.
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Post by: buckcanyonlodge on December 03, 2018, 05:00:24 AM: Does look a little big for a sharp shinned. I have had sharp shinned kill full grown roosters..wicked little buggers
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Post by: boneaddict on December 03, 2018, 05:09:03 AM: I’d have went with Sharp Shinned as well.
Pretty much takes an expert to tell the two apart. They are deadly little *censored*s.
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Post by: Bill W on December 03, 2018, 07:57:47 AM: what's the rules on hawks in the act of depredation? :yike:
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Post by: HighlandLofts on December 03, 2018, 08:25:13 AM: Kill one and it is a $5,000 fine and instead of jail time you get probation. I know a few people who got caught in Oregon and comiefornia.
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Post by: wonder on December 03, 2018, 11:45:38 AM: Hoping for a color picture round 2. Maybe send it to the local BIO? Not planning on snuffing any aerial predator at any time unless attacked and can't escape. That will probably never happen right?

Son had a immature bald eagle come in and take a swipe at him and our dog earlier this year. No harm no foul. Thanks for the feedback though
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Post by: boneaddict on December 03, 2018, 12:03:02 PM: Tail and legs are your two indicators.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 03, 2018, 12:04:04 PM: @DOUBLELUNG
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 03, 2018, 12:21:32 PM: Looks like a Cooper's, I'm not seeing much for scale but based on Wonder's thinking it's too big for a sharpie or Coopers my guess is a female Coopers. markings are right for sharpies and Coopers, when perched like that the bottom of a Coopers tail is fairly rounded while a sharpie is pronouncedly square.

If it was a goshawk, juvenile or adult, I'd expect to be able to see the light eyestripe above the eye, and the breast streaking is too horizontal for a juvenile gos and not fine enough for an adult.

However, with the lack of detail and color, all I'm really confident is that it's an accipiter, which of course includes all 3 of the suspects. A better birder than me may be able to distinguish species from these photos.
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Post by: Widgeondeke on December 03, 2018, 01:01:20 PM: i know i know......its a chicken killer :chuckle:

sorry, i am not true help on this one
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Post by: LDennis24 on December 19, 2018, 12:05:50 PM: Cooper's hawks love to kill chickens in my experience. The one by my house will sit and stare at me when I try to shoo him away from my coop. They seem to stalk alot of pheasants around my place as well.