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Title: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 04, 2018, 02:22:46 PM
Where are they all coming from!!  East coast
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: full choke on December 04, 2018, 02:26:21 PM
Where are they all coming from!!  East coast

Social Media.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: cb1989 on December 04, 2018, 02:29:56 PM
Link to an article?
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 04, 2018, 02:32:47 PM
Fake news
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Reidus on December 04, 2018, 02:35:52 PM
Where are they all coming from!!  East coast

Social Media.

Thanks to all the social media podcasts shows etc "This is a public land diy hunt. Just buy your tag and head out west"

And with the good economy, more people can afford it.

And the application and draw process has never been easier with all the services out there and info available at your fingertips.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: X-Force on December 04, 2018, 02:46:42 PM

And with the good economy, more people can afford it.


 :yeah:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 04, 2018, 02:57:34 PM
Montana was the same.  It is from the economy doing so well under Trump (that isn't a political statement).  I would hope the reason was from all of the Washington hunters seeing how bad this state sucks for hunting and getting nothing but worse so they jumped ship!  haha

With that said, it isn't a slam dunk to go hunt these other western states.  Yes, the hunting is better and more animals and less people, but a good hunt needs decent access and it is still a issue that can be hard to get past.  Lots of off-season research and PR is needed to have a good hunt.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: huntnphool on December 04, 2018, 03:26:37 PM
 And of that 30% increase, Washington is probably 90% :chuckle:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Mr Mykiss on December 04, 2018, 04:07:11 PM
I saw about 20 rigs from Wisconsin during archery season :dunno:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Reidus on December 04, 2018, 05:02:53 PM
I saw about 20 rigs from Wisconsin during archery season :dunno:

I think a lot of the midwest hunters are finding their way out west. There's gazillions of em.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jjhunter on December 04, 2018, 05:14:11 PM

And with the good economy, more people can afford it.


 :yeah:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 04, 2018, 06:48:32 PM
Right from the mouth of Wyoming Game and Fish,  A guy I know was working on his tag plan for 2019 and this is what he was told. 
I hope this is not the case, but this man has no reason to lie about it. 
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: bobcat on December 04, 2018, 07:11:57 PM
Randy Newberg's fault.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Reidus on December 04, 2018, 07:23:53 PM
Randy Newberg's fault.

 :yeah:

don't forget the bros
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: elkchaser54 on December 04, 2018, 07:36:58 PM
I'm sure the small towns may hate the outsiders but they wont complain when they pay them for their goods and services .
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: go4steelhd on December 04, 2018, 07:40:36 PM
Wait i’m Confused.
Are you saying there are 30% more hunters hunting Wyoming?
Or are you say a 30% cost increase on 2019 tags?
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 04, 2018, 07:52:18 PM
Wait i’m Confused.
Are you saying there are 30% more hunters hunting Wyoming?
Or are you say a 30% cost increase on 2019 tags?

30% increase in non resident hunters for Wyoming Elk in 2018
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: idaho guy on December 04, 2018, 08:00:59 PM
How is that possible since they have capped non resident tags? Unless they increased the number of tags by 30 or I guess that was 30 percent more applicants?
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dewandgin on December 04, 2018, 08:04:57 PM
30% more applicants. If you had 2 points you were 100% for a general tag the last 10+ years. 2018 2 pref points was 58% for a general tag. This was elk. We have always alternated one year elk and the next year deer. This last year nothing. 2 points in both.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 04, 2018, 08:58:59 PM
With the increased fees, I bet a lot of guys cashed in this year and won’t be back.  :twocents:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: X-Force on December 04, 2018, 09:07:07 PM
With the increased fees, I bet a lot of guys cashed in this year and won’t be back.  :twocents:

If the economy continues to do well people will keep coming back.

Idaho fish and game wasn’t sellingout tags after 2008 and they increased fees... now they are selling out again.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: actionshooter on December 04, 2018, 09:27:05 PM
With the increased fees, I bet a lot of guys cashed in this year and won’t be back.  :twocents:

If the economy continues to do well people will keep coming back.

Idaho fish and game wasn’t sellingout tags after 2008 and they increased fees... now they are selling out again.
I agree, the money is there and people are spending it.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: huntnphool on December 04, 2018, 11:28:08 PM
Where are they all coming from!!  East coast

Social Media.
And with the good economy, more people can afford it.

 Thank you B.Hussein
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Timberstalker on December 05, 2018, 05:19:43 AM
 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: elkoholic on December 05, 2018, 06:36:59 AM
Randy Newberg's fault.

I said F-ing Randy Newberg last year when I rounded the corner to find 10 rigs parked at a trailhead that I have only ever seen 1 or 2 rigs parked. They had a fire in there 2 years prior. FYI- I still like Randy but that was literally the first words out of my mouth....
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: trophyhunt on December 05, 2018, 06:39:32 AM
internet and wolves= bad for hunting.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 05, 2018, 09:39:40 AM
Don't worry most guys from the east will take years to figure out elk.  I brought some family out from Michigan to my Wyoming archery elk spot this year.  70 year old uncle and 2 cousins.   On their first morning, they had a 5x5 and 4x4 down.   good times.     

Even 5 years ago in Wyoming you could get a General Elk tag every other year, point creeping every year now.  I bet it will be 3+ points just to get a general tag for 2019.

Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: boneaddict on December 05, 2018, 09:43:10 AM
Point creep sucks
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 05, 2018, 10:23:12 AM
increased costs for tags in Wyoming and all other states (Montana etc) will have no impact on selling all of their non-resident out of state licenses and tags.  I wish they would go up until they were just high enough to insure that all applicants get a tag.  I'm 53 years old and would gladly pay more to make sure I drew every year.  I know some of you think that Randy Newberg is partially the cause of all of this (and he is along with all the other hunting shows, internet, and OnX-maps).  But what he says over and over again is the factual truth for most of us, "Hunt whenever you possibly can, you will run out of health before you will ever run out of wealth!!!"  This might not be true for some but for most of us it is.  I have multiple guys I know that wont pay for the tags or wont upgrade to the "Special License" in Wyoming because of the cost increases.  These guys have over $1,000,000 dollars in their 401K's and a pension to boot!!!  We will see how they do when they are 65-80 years old humping hills in Montana and Wyoming and leaving their wealth to their spoiled snotty-nosed kids!!!  When it comes to hunting, Live in the NOW!!!!  Not all of life is this counsel wise.  But in hunting and spending time in the outdoors doing what you love, it is counsel you cant beat!!!
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 05, 2018, 10:30:57 AM
I'm sure the small towns may hate the outsiders but they wont complain when they pay them for their goods and services .
Actually, most Wyoming small towns hang out the welcome banner - literally! - for hunters.  Many of the camp grounds and hotels/motels set up prominently displayed meat poles for their guests.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: 2MANY on December 05, 2018, 10:42:12 AM
Soon only the rich will hunt.

Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 05, 2018, 10:49:33 AM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: 2MANY on December 05, 2018, 10:56:33 AM
Please don't bring facts into this discussion.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: 7mmfan on December 05, 2018, 10:57:35 AM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: cb1989 on December 05, 2018, 11:13:55 AM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Everyone's entitled to their own facts...
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Curly on December 05, 2018, 11:18:39 AM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Are those numbers only non resident? Or is that combined res and non res?
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 05, 2018, 11:35:40 AM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Are those numbers only non resident? Or is that combined res and non res?
That is non-res only, straight from the Wyoming Game and Fish website.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Curly on December 05, 2018, 11:37:41 AM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Are those numbers only non resident? Or is that combined res and non res?
That is non-res only, straight from the Wyoming Game and Fish website.

Edit: I thought this was in the Elk hunting forum for some reason, so those are Elk numbers only.
:tup:
 8)
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 05, 2018, 11:39:06 AM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Are those numbers only non resident? Or is that combined res and non res?
That is non-res only, straight from the Wyoming Game and Fish website.

Edit: I thought this was in the Elk hunting forum for some reason, so those are Elk numbers only.
:tup:
 8)
You caught my edit before I re-edited it. It is in the elk hunting forum.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Ellensburg on December 05, 2018, 11:45:32 AM
Great news. Increased $$$ for a state that actually manages their wildlife.

New hunters keep the sport alive.

If hunters keep decreasing in #'s.... the outcome is much worse than harder to draw tags.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 05, 2018, 12:02:53 PM
I don't know the facts on Wyoming but In Montana they had a huge increase.  Since they raised their prices close to 10 years ago or so they have had more tags then entries into the 17,000 non resident deer/elk combo licenses.  If you applied you got the tag and their were left overs.  This year I talked personally to the license agent in Helena and there were 3500 applicants that didn't get drawn.  This I know because I was one of the 3500.  I was lucky to get a license later in the year through the alternant list but two of my hunting partners that put in originally with me didn't get to hunt in Montana this year.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 05, 2018, 12:08:38 PM
Facts and data are fun...  :rolleyes:

Facts it may be, but in Region K where I hunt deer and region 99 where I hunt antelope , in the last few years it has taken a huge increase in the number of points it takes to draw the license.  You have to buy the Special (expensive) tag and you still have to wait a year when you used to buy the cheaper tag and hunt every year.  Antelope has went from a two year wait to a 6 year wait.  When I started putting in for Region 2 elk licenses 8 years ago it took 7 points to insure you got the tag.  Now it takes approximately 12 points to draw the tag and I am now sitting on 8 points and wondering if I will ever catch up.  So don't tell me its all of the same!

Your data is extremely flawed because it doesn't take into account all of the people buying points in Wyoming and not actually applying for a license that they know they wont get until they get more points.  All those buying points are just like people putting in and not being successful so your data is extremely flawed and skewed.  I have 8 elk points now but have never applied for an elk license yet.  This is because I know that with 8 points I wont be successful.  So I will keep watching the draw results and keep buying the points until I know I am in the hunt for the tag.  This is no different than applying each year and knowing I don't have a chance in heck of getting drawn.  Your data is missing a very huge variable.

One of the problems is that a lot of hunters here in Washington don't understand the way that Wyoming gives their tags out.  There is a huge difference between a preference point system (Wyoming) and a squared bonus point system (Washington). He who has the most points gets the license in Wyoming.  He who has the most points in Washington has a better chance to get drawn but absolutely isn't guaranteed.  In Washington the guy with one point has a chance.  In Wyoming the same hunter has no chance.  Yes, Wyoming gives out a small number of licenses in a random draw but a lot of the sought after tags don't have enough to even have a random draw.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: sjhgraysage on December 05, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
dvolmer,
 Ones ability to get a non-resident tag or a tag in their own state should not be based on the amount of money one has in their wallet.
One should not be able to go to the head of the line for a tag because they have more money than some one else.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 05, 2018, 09:24:40 PM
What the heck! That doesn't look like a 30% increase to me
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 05, 2018, 09:27:29 PM
I think I am responsible for fake news, sorry guys. 
Swear I am not Russian
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 05, 2018, 09:37:51 PM
dvolmer,
 Ones ability to get a non-resident tag or a tag in their own state should not be based on the amount of money one has in their wallet.
One should not be able to go to the head of the line for a tag because they have more money than some one else.

I totally agree!!!  I don’t think anyone should be able to buy there way in. That’s why I totally disagree with Governors tags.  But if you are in the business to sell widgets, you are going to try to sell them for whatever price you can get. This is what these states are doing. They are not in the business to make non-residents happy with cheap prices and great deals. There stake holders (resident hunters, tax payers, and local in state businesses) want all the bang for the buck that they can get.  This keeps there resident licenses super cheap and non-resident hunters flipping the bill for there fish and wildlife management and supplying tons of local businesses revenue. Market pressure controls the price.  Who is going to spend all the excess money on motels, meals, and other things while hunting out of state?  The rich guy or the guy that can barely scrape up the bucks for the tag and gas who plans on eating sandwiches every day and sleeping in a tent???  There are a lot of people here in Washington that have given up and quit hunting because of the cost of resident hunting licenses here.  With all that said, it is sad to say that the extended hunting outlook in the 30 year future is bleak for the average guy and gal. Tags will continue to climb but access to quality hunting will become the bigger issue.  The fact of the matter that these states that go out of there way to recruit out of state hunters are in it for the money. It’s big big business in states that struggle with small populations and hardly any tax revenue.  Do I like it?  NO!  But it’s the world we are living in and I’m getting to the age that I’m in still pretty good shape but I can see a light at the end of the tunnel. To me it’s just trying to hunt as much as possible with the years I’ve got left.  But the long outlook in the future for hunters is not very good for many many reasons. Here in this liberal state hunting would have already been outlawed if it wasn’t for the large revenue it produces for our state that their greed overcomes their principles. I’m hoping for the best but it looks like a scary future. I’ve hunted for over 40 years in Washington and the changes of the last 10-15 years are scary.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: sjhgraysage on December 06, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
d,
This is the statement that had me concerned:
"I wish they would go up until they were just high enough to insure that all applicants get a tag.  I'm 53 years old and would gladly pay more to make sure I drew every year. "

The only way to have only enough applicants for all the available tags with your scenario is to price a bunch of people out of the game.
There just isn't enough resource for everyone to get a license/tag every year, and with our current mule deer trends it will likely be worse.

Perhaps I just misunderstood your statement.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 06, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
"Me over others" ensures the death of hunting within my children's lifetime....
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 06, 2018, 03:14:02 PM
Got a little more clarification on this 30% issue, the info was for a specific unit increase of 30% from nonresident hunters.  Where is the data guy at!!!!
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 06, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
Then it’s just a shift between units, but since you asked...
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: idaho guy on December 06, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
hunting fool must have highlighted another top elk unit!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 06, 2018, 09:01:17 PM
Then it’s just a shift between units, but since you asked...



There it is!!!!!
Looks like a big increase is very possible in a unit.

Thanks for the data
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 07, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
Like I previously mentioned, those stats are extremely flawed due to the individuals buying points and not actually applying are like unsuccessful applicants that aren't being tallied in the report.  We are used to having to buy a license and apply to get our point here in Washington.  In Wyoming you can get a point without a license.  For example, If I purchased an elk point this last year and now have 8 points, it would be not to wise to apply for a hunt that requires 12 points to draw.  I don't have to tie up the license and tag fee until i get rejected (that's a lot of money too).  So my lack of putting in is not in the statistics but its still real and for those that have less points then me they will still have to wait until after me to get a license.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: dvolmer on December 07, 2018, 03:09:51 PM
d,
This is the statement that had me concerned:
"I wish they would go up until they were just high enough to insure that all applicants get a tag.  I'm 53 years old and would gladly pay more to make sure I drew every year. "

The only way to have only enough applicants for all the available tags with your scenario is to price a bunch of people out of the game.
There just isn't enough resource for everyone to get a license/tag every year, and with our current mule deer trends it will likely be worse.

Perhaps I just misunderstood your statement.

I understand your concern.  I'm just simply stating, that if I had a choice of paying $350 for a Wyoming deer tag and my odds were to get one every third year, I would gladly pay $500 for a Wyoming deer tag if it would mean that I could go every year.  Lets just say that at age 53 I have 15 more years of hunting (physically speaking) I would rather go 15 times instead of 5.  I am a single income family with 7 children.  My last child is a senior in high school this year.  From youth until I roughly turned 40 or so I only hunted in Washington and pretty much was a weekend warrior.  I couldn't afford much more without impacting my family and any extended time away would get me the wrath of my better half.  At about 43 years old I started to hunt Montana.  At about 48 I started to hunt Wyoming.  I have never paid for a guided hunt or trespass fees.  In some ways I feel like I have put my time in and now that I am older I have a little bit more resources I can spend without affecting my families life style.  I truly am at the age where I can still keep up but I can also feel the creekiness in the bones after a hard days hunt and a sore back to go with it.  I don't know the answer.  Maybe Im selfish in my thoughts.  It does scare me that hunting in the future has a very poor outlook for the common man.  We don't need to get into that here.  We could have 10,000 posts on that and talk forever but anyone that has hunted for 10-50 years in the past can see where that is all going. 

But if you were a state that offered 17,000 out of state tags at lets just say $500 each and you had 25,000 people applying, any business minded politician would try to come up with a model where 18,000 people are putting in for the 17,000 tags instead of 25,000 and you could sell them for $750 each.  Remember, we are talking out of state non-residents here.  Your constituents (voting public) will love you for it because it brings in all this extra revenue that they dont have to pay and have tax increases.  Their licenses can even go down (you would be amazed at how cheap Wyoming and Montana resident licenses are compared to us here in Washington).  Its a win win for the state, politicians, the in-state hunters, and the states general public & businesses.  Remember, they could care less about you as long as you pay the license fee and bring your out of state money with you when you come!  As non-residents we are at their mercy you might say for better words.  I guess the real answer is to move to Wyoming or Montana but I know that isnt close to realistic for most of us here.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 07, 2018, 04:40:23 PM
d,
This is the statement that had me concerned:
"I wish they would go up until they were just high enough to insure that all applicants get a tag.  I'm 53 years old and would gladly pay more to make sure I drew every year. "

The only way to have only enough applicants for all the available tags with your scenario is to price a bunch of people out of the game.
There just isn't enough resource for everyone to get a license/tag every year, and with our current mule deer trends it will likely be worse.

Perhaps I just misunderstood your statement.

I understand your concern.  I'm just simply stating, that if I had a choice of paying $350 for a Wyoming deer tag and my odds were to get one every third year, I would gladly pay $500 for a Wyoming deer tag if it would mean that I could go every year.  Lets just say that at age 53 I have 15 more years of hunting (physically speaking) I would rather go 15 times instead of 5.  I am a single income family with 7 children.  My last child is a senior in high school this year.  From youth until I roughly turned 40 or so I only hunted in Washington and pretty much was a weekend warrior.  I couldn't afford much more without impacting my family and any extended time away would get me the wrath of my better half.  At about 43 years old I started to hunt Montana.  At about 48 I started to hunt Wyoming.  I have never paid for a guided hunt or trespass fees.  In some ways I feel like I have put my time in and now that I am older I have a little bit more resources I can spend without affecting my families life style.  I truly am at the age where I can still keep up but I can also feel the creekiness in the bones after a hard days hunt and a sore back to go with it.  I don't know the answer.  Maybe Im selfish in my thoughts.  It does scare me that hunting in the future has a very poor outlook for the common man.  We don't need to get into that here.  We could have 10,000 posts on that and talk forever but anyone that has hunted for 10-50 years in the past can see where that is all going. 

But if you were a state that offered 17,000 out of state tags at lets just say $500 each and you had 25,000 people applying, any business minded politician would try to come up with a model where 18,000 people are putting in for the 17,000 tags instead of 25,000 and you could sell them for $750 each.  Remember, we are talking out of state non-residents here.  Your constituents (voting public) will love you for it because it brings in all this extra revenue that they dont have to pay and have tax increases.  Their licenses can even go down (you would be amazed at how cheap Wyoming and Montana resident licenses are compared to us here in Washington).  Its a win win for the state, politicians, the in-state hunters, and the states general public & businesses.  Remember, they could care less about you as long as you pay the license fee and bring your out of state money with you when you come!  As non-residents we are at their mercy you might say for better words.  I guess the real answer is to move to Wyoming or Montana but I know that isnt close to realistic for most of us here.
The problem is you openly supported that type of thinking in your earlier post. As guys get priced out, they quit hunting. When they quit hunting, I bet a lot of them stop supporting hunting. Even if one of them stops supporting hunting, that’s a problem.   :twocents:
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: Antlershed on December 07, 2018, 04:50:54 PM
And I realize that the original data does not include the guys that are sitting on the sideline waiting until they have enough points. That wasn’t the original question though. It was whether or not there are 30% more people applying for tags.
Title: Re: 30% Increase in Nonresident Hunters in Wyoming in one year
Post by: jdmecomber on December 07, 2018, 04:57:18 PM
And I realize that the original data does not include the guys that are sitting on the sideline waiting until they have enough points. That wasn’t the original question though. It was whether or not there are 30% more people applying for tags.

Thanks for all the data Brent, it helped clear up a lot of things.

I have been building points for all species in Wyoming.  Fun stuff

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