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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: boneaddict on December 14, 2018, 06:11:37 AM

Title: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 14, 2018, 06:11:37 AM: what do you prefer in your antlers.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: greenhead_killer on December 14, 2018, 07:17:31 AM: I consider nt and trash as the same category. Maybe I’m missing something?

Give me the dumpster of trash!
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 14, 2018, 07:21:15 AM: I think of trash being a definite typical frame with extras? If so that is my pick. Though big topicals are cool as well
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 14, 2018, 07:29:37 AM: Officially would the stickers be a negative to his net or would he have enough that they’d be positive to his score. (Scored as a non typ.)

A sticker here a sticker there......trash

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A nontypical......or a dumpster of trash

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Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: benhuntin on December 14, 2018, 07:34:52 AM: Dark and heavy

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Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 14, 2018, 07:37:08 AM: Must see poll number TWO
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: grundy53 on December 14, 2018, 07:37:31 AM: Mass and tall

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Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: kellama2001 on December 14, 2018, 08:05:37 AM: Anything with character...usually falls into the trash category for me
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: C-Money on December 14, 2018, 08:59:47 AM: Stickers & kickers are cool, but a clean well balanced classic mule deer really peeks my interest! I also have a soft spot for those old heavy weights that don't have the "pretty" antlers, but you know they are just tough as nails.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: 3nails on December 14, 2018, 09:03:44 AM: Quote from: benhuntin on December 14, 2018, 07:34:52 AM
Dark and heavy

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:yeah: I don't care what it is as long as it's got dark, heavy antlers.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: b23 on December 14, 2018, 09:30:09 AM: The ones with points going all over the place are crazy and cool but if I was going to mount a monster on my wall, my dream buck is one that is heavy horned, wide, proportionally tall, and symmetrical. If it had dark horns that would just be icing. Not asking for much am I. lol
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: buggy on December 14, 2018, 10:01:57 AM: All of them are best! :chuckle:

I'm a sucker for anything unique so its a toss up between trash and NT since I have a choice in this situation.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Brute on December 15, 2018, 12:21:41 PM: Need to put both polls together for me.
Mass and trash anyday :chuckle:
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 15, 2018, 12:24:39 PM: I think I’d say BN was a non typical. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Brute on December 15, 2018, 12:26:30 PM: His basic frame was typical.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 15, 2018, 01:15:23 PM: I think for the record he has more than 12.5 inches of nontypical points.

For those asking and wanting to know and not understanding where I am coming from......
the important thing to keep in mind: Both typical and non-typical sets of antlers are scored based on the main frame. The only difference is that abnormal points deduct from a typical rack’s final score, but they are additive for non-typical. I think 12.5 is the magical number between minimums of typ versus non Typical. A 10 inch dropper on a clean mainframe will Trash your typical score, but the uniqueness of it...might make a person like trash.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Mallardmasher on December 16, 2018, 10:29:24 PM: Is it not first added to the gross and then deducted for the net. So a 150 typ with a 10" dropper would gross 160 but have a deduct of 10" for a 150 net, like it never existed. I think
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 17, 2018, 05:04:16 AM: What happened to poll 3
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 17, 2018, 07:28:50 AM: Quote from: Mallardmasher on December 16, 2018, 10:29:24 PM
Is it not first added to the gross and then deducted for the net. So a 150 typ with a 10" dropper would gross 160 but have a deduct of 10" for a 150 net, like it never existed. I think

Not quite. Maybe around the coffee table when talking to buddies, but not for the score book. They go instantly into the negative column. Note total abnormals or moved to E. Which are added in with the differences (symmetry)

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Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 17, 2018, 07:31:36 AM: Thing to remember for record book purposes....non typicals start with their frame being measured etc just like typicals. They are still judged on the symmetry of their main frame. THEN instead of abnormals being deducted they are added to the final.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: elkboy on December 17, 2018, 08:39:33 AM: My option wasn't listed. ;) Any antler attached to 50+ pounds of venison... That said, I will always like a good typical set of antlers.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 17, 2018, 10:32:49 AM: I voted for trash. Makes me think of @BULLBLASTER and the buck he shot this year. A freak nasty buck whose typical counterpart (score wise) would be passable but not when he had so much cool stuff going on above the ears.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Jpmiller on December 17, 2018, 10:59:09 AM: I don't really understand how score works past bigger numbers are "better" than lower so I judge deer on "whoa he looks good" and having a couple sticker points definitely adds to that in my book.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 17, 2018, 11:20:40 AM: Quote from: Jonathan_S on December 17, 2018, 10:32:49 AM
I voted for trash. Makes me think of @BULLBLASTER and the buck he shot this year. A freak nasty buck whose typical counterpart (score wise) would be passable but not when he had so much cool stuff going on above the ears.
Does this mean I get to post another picture? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: jjhunter on December 17, 2018, 11:41:56 AM: I used to have an obsessions with big typicals because of their rarity (never killed one). Trashy bucks have grown on me over time and mass has really grown on me. Maybe because I have had zero success with the big typicals?

When I’m in the field, I’m always looking at gross score. Gross score is a pretty good representation of “how big” a buck is. I’m still not a fan of the 170” buck with a bunch of trash; for me, with a good tag in my pocket, I want a buck with at least a 180” frame. I’m still a sucker for giant 3’s and 3x4’s though. I’d love to shoot a 35” 3 point someday.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 17, 2018, 12:38:59 PM: Quote from: jjhunter on December 17, 2018, 11:41:56 AM
I used to have an obsessions with big typicals because of their rarity (never killed one). Trashy bucks have grown on me over time and mass has really grown on me. Maybe because I have had zero success with the big typicals?

When I’m in the field, I’m always looking at gross score. Gross score is a pretty good representation of “how big” a buck is. I’m still not a fan of the 170” buck with a bunch of trash; for me, with a good tag in my pocket, I want a buck with at least a 180” frame. I’m still a sucker for giant 3’s and 3x4’s though. I’d love to shoot a 35” 3 point someday.
I hope one day I can get to the point of not being a fan of the 170 trashy buck. :chuckle:
My “big” buck scale starts a bit lower than some guys.

I am a big fan of big back fork 3 points tho.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: boneaddict on December 17, 2018, 01:45:18 PM: I like character, mostly in the form of mass and moss. Junk around the bases....more texture the better. I never check for score. Old age, big frames.
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: Pathfinder101 on December 18, 2018, 06:27:51 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on December 17, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: jjhunter on December 17, 2018, 11:41:56 AM
I used to have an obsessions with big typicals because of their rarity (never killed one). Trashy bucks have grown on me over time and mass has really grown on me. Maybe because I have had zero success with the big typicals?

When I’m in the field, I’m always looking at gross score. Gross score is a pretty good representation of “how big” a buck is. I’m still not a fan of the 170” buck with a bunch of trash; for me, with a good tag in my pocket, I want a buck with at least a 180” frame. I’m still a sucker for giant 3’s and 3x4’s though. I’d love to shoot a 35” 3 point someday.
I hope one day I can get to the point of not being a fan of the 170 trashy buck. :chuckle:
My “big” buck scale starts a bit lower than some guys.

I am a big fan of big back fork 3 points tho.

I'm with you man. I'll take 150" buck with 20 inches of crap... Maybe after I've killed a few of those I'll get tired of them... :dunno:
Title: Re: Antler Poll Number ONE
Post by: jjhunter on December 18, 2018, 06:44:17 PM: Yeah, I guess it’s kinda hard to generalize about what you like. Maybe I should have just said, I like a buck with a 180” frame and some mass. That is the point where deer get “big” for me, generally. :chuckle:

I’ve seen lots of bucks that would have scored good, but weren’t really that big. I saw a buck in Idaho in 2012 that would have gross scored 210”, but he only had a light 170” frame. It wasn’t a “big buck”. It would have been dwarfed by a solid 185” 4 point.