Post by: Damnimissed on December 30, 2018, 10:52:07 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 30, 2018, 11:01:43 AM
Post by: Damnimissed on December 30, 2018, 11:09:19 AM
If you’re not shooting past 600 then What’s the need for an ELD type bullet? If you like accubond I’d stick with those
I can’t leave well enough alone :chuckle:
220gr at 2900+ sounds pretty good if the bullet will stay together at close ranges too.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2018, 11:10:03 AM
Post by: The scout on December 30, 2018, 11:41:00 AM
Post by: Wild Bill on December 30, 2018, 12:01:49 PM
I shoot bergers, and they hand grenade, but the elk don't move. So i put it center mass, and 4 ish inches behind the shoulder. Ive had minimal meat loss.
WB
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 30, 2018, 12:11:38 PM
Post by: Damnimissed on December 30, 2018, 12:23:10 PM
Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond. That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum :twocents:
You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2018, 12:27:17 PM
Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! :twocents:Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond. That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum :twocents:
You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?
Post by: Damnimissed on December 30, 2018, 12:33:06 PM
Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! :twocents:Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond. That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum :twocents:
You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?
I still haven’t bought into the whole fragmenting bullet thing but I know there are much more experienced guys in here than me who swear by them, so maybe I’ll dabble in it for deer or something.Also, my mag length is 3.75 and it’s a 10 twist 26” barrel.
Post by: Taco280AI on December 30, 2018, 12:36:02 PM
Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! :twocents:Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond. That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum :twocents:
You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?
:lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2018, 12:38:40 PM
Can you get a longer magazine in your rum?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2018, 12:50:59 PM
Much better when you make it bold! :tup: :chuckle:Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! :twocents:Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond. That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum :twocents:
You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?
:lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:
Post by: Damnimissed on December 30, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
I shot them from my rum for a few years at 3.800 inches oal and 2970 FPS not speedy for a rum but it worked and I continue to use them in my 300 win. They really don’t cause much more damage than similar weight bullets. You shoot them in the ribs and get a golf ball size wound channel, but shoot them in the shoulder and get more damage like any bullet. I’ve killed animals between 70 and 700+ yards with them and can’t see any reason To change
Can you get a longer magazine in your rum?
I can’t get a longer mag, as far as I know. It’s a fierce fury and I’m almost positive it uses a Sako 85 mag.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2018, 01:00:22 PM
You’d just eat up some case capacity. Give them a shot.I shot them from my rum for a few years at 3.800 inches oal and 2970 FPS not speedy for a rum but it worked and I continue to use them in my 300 win. They really don’t cause much more damage than similar weight bullets. You shoot them in the ribs and get a golf ball size wound channel, but shoot them in the shoulder and get more damage like any bullet. I’ve killed animals between 70 and 700+ yards with them and can’t see any reason To change
Can you get a longer magazine in your rum?
I can’t get a longer mag, as far as I know. It’s a fierce fury and I’m almost positive it uses a Sako 85 mag.
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 30, 2018, 02:06:20 PM
Absolutely! They are the very best all range all purpose 30 cal bullet in existence! :twocents:Inside 600 there's zero change I'm picking eldx over an accubond. That said there's zero change im not using a 215 berger in a rum :twocents:
You’d use the 215 Berger inside 600 with a rum?
:lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:
Has Berger changed their recipe since 2014ish? Hate to start beating this ol' horse again but I had a couple bad experiences with them prior to then, one muley at 300 and one elk at 75, both had major penciling on all non-bone shots. I haven't paid much attention to them since. In all fairness I was shooting them in 7mm, not 30 cal. although my hunting partner lost a great 7x7 rosie in 2015 with 4 good shots out of a 30-378 at under 100 and never found the bull. Everything i've shot with them beyond 500 has died real good.
Post by: jasnt on December 30, 2018, 03:36:23 PM
Were these elite hunters or VLDs?
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 30, 2018, 03:40:17 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on December 30, 2018, 03:41:12 PM
Post by: jasnt on December 30, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 30, 2018, 03:53:37 PM
Post by: Wild Bill on December 30, 2018, 04:12:01 PM
Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down
:chuckle:
With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards. I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.
WB
Post by: h20hunter on December 30, 2018, 04:16:28 PM
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 30, 2018, 04:37:28 PM
Makes no sense that they wouldn’t open at close range and do at long range :dunno:
Were these elite hunters or VLDs?
I thought the exact same thing. They were all orange box VLD's. I don't remember if he was running the 190's or the 210's when he shot that big bull. Would have thought the first 2 were clean misses by the lack of reaction but they weren't. Tiny specs of blood and the gun was dialed. Broadside prone shots laying on a skid road, bull was also in the road. I shot a small 2pt bull at 75 yds and poked a tiny pencil hole thru the lungs with virtually no damage. I have pics of the exit somewhere, i'll see if i can dig em up. Got lucky on the followup and broke the spine at base of the neck on a dead run. Also poked 2 pencil holes thru the mule deer at 300, 3rd one that hit rib did good and blew off his g4 with the 4th shot as he ran downhill.
Post by: jasnt on December 30, 2018, 04:41:00 PM
Post by: Wild Bill on December 30, 2018, 04:52:41 PM
Bill....I'll be taking my rbros 7 with 180's for moose next year. Stoked.
lot of fun man.
WB
Post by: Mtnwalker on December 30, 2018, 04:58:12 PM
Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down
:chuckle:
With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards. I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.
WB
You guys can doubt all you want. I hope you never have a similar experience. If I were reading it online from somebody I didn't know I'd probably assume the same thing. But if you were there you'd agree those bullets hit where they were supposed to and flat out didn't do their job.
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 30, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
Post by: Damnimissed on December 30, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
Post by: Wild Bill on December 30, 2018, 06:12:07 PM
Lol 4 good shots inside 100 with a backwards Barnes would lay an elk down
:chuckle:
With a 7mm running 180 bergers at 3100...
In the last two yrs I've shot one deer @279, one at 340. And 4 bulls at 790, 320, 350, and 445.... All one shot , All the elk died on the spot. The deer moved about 50 yards. I think the thickness of the elk and shot placement has been critical. The deer was my standard behind the shoulder about 4 inches, dead center. So id run them, but expect a little more tracking for the deer.
WB
You guys can doubt all you want. I hope you never have a similar experience. If I were reading it online from somebody I didn't know I'd probably assume the same thing. But if you were there you'd agree those bullets hit where they were supposed to and flat out didn't do their job.
I am not doubting. Its just never happened to me, and I pray it doesn't!
WB
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 30, 2018, 06:35:18 PM
I shoot a lot of brands and shoot what the guns like. I have seen berger horrors first hand, seen more then a few animals posted by berger shooters on here with more then 1 hole in them this year :mgun2: Yet they are all one shot kills :chuckle: :boxin:
Post by: The scout on December 30, 2018, 09:46:41 PM