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Big Game Hunting => Backcountry Hunting => Topic started by: Karl Blanchard on December 31, 2018, 11:38:10 AM
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Been at this packpacking thing a bit over two decades and my food system is dialed in. I learned a long time ago that if you hate your food then you aren't gonna eat it so t that point you are lacking calories and essentially carrying dead weight. I pack food that I like to eat and that will sustain my energy output.
February I leave for kodiak on a winter mountain goat hunt. With the added winter gear I am trying to get my pack weight (and space) down. Currently I run at about 2 lb a day or a little over. I'd like to get that down around a pound and a half based on 4000 calories a day.
So let's hear what tasty high-calorie dance items some of you are eating in the backcountry that could save me some weight.
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Dditionally, I'll be running 2 freeze dried meals a day. With snow pack, water wont be an issue.
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I added a F bombs and Trail Butter as a couple of my staples this past season along with Brain Octane packets. easy calories and very lightweight.
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I added a F bombs and Trail Butter as a couple of my staples this past season along with Brain Octane packets. easy calories and very lightweight.
do you prefer the trail butter over Justin's? I run the Justin's currently.
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I like them both but prefer the trail butter flavors tho. The trail original and chocolate coffee are my favorites.
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I've started adding in instant potatoes before I even start hiking. Just be sure to close them up with a bit of tape to be sure they don't spill all over. A quarter bag per freeze dried meal adds quite a bit of volume to the meal to fill you up more and adds another hundred calories or so.
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I'm definitely going to start going with the potatoes idea. That sounds awesome.
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I'm definitely going to start going with the potatoes idea. That sounds awesome.
All sorts of flavors to try. My favorite is the one with apple wood smoked bacon bits in the biscuits and gravy Mountain House.
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Screw the food, I want to know more about your hunt!!! :chuckle: seriously, good luck and take lots of pics!
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I starting using these this year, they are a lot better tasting than mountain house in my opinion.
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Should have added that I make my own dehydrated meals and then some freeze dried stuff from JonathanS so portions are oversized already :chuckle: I do a meal based around the idahodians though. Dehydrated burger and veggies. Add some water to the meat and veggies an hour before I plan on eating or at some point when I think about it, then when I'm ready to eat I add the potatoes and hot water to reheat. I'll usually add in some brown gravy mix and a tapatio packet
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Screw the food, I want to know more about your hunt!!! :chuckle: seriously, good luck and take lots of pics!
low odds I take many pics and the ones I do will be crappy cell pics :chuckle:
Nothing crazy. Baby bro is a resident from when he was stationed at Richardson in Anchorage. Been trying to do a hunt of some sort for years but his leave never lines up right. We've got a window in February and hunt RG480 is open till mid March. May not get another window so we are going for it. Not the best time of year to try and go into goat country but YOLO :chuckle:
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I'm definitely going to start going with the potatoes idea. That sounds awesome.
potatoes are where its at! i will bring a package with me on 2-3 night trips and when im eating my nightly mt house i can sprinkle some in when im hungrier than normal or if the food is too watery. also when you buy those mt house boxes with assorted meals, i hate the scramble by them selves but if you add apple smoked mashed taters and some tacobell packets and roll them up in tortillas :tup:
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olive oil packets, tuna creations packs. freeze dried avocado is something like 150 cal per ounce
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olive oil packets, tuna creations packs. freeze dried avocado is something like 150 cal per ounce
already do the tuna but this freeze dried avocado intrigues me immensely. Do you DIY them or buy them? I freaking love avacado!
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olive oil packets, tuna creations packs. freeze dried avocado is something like 150 cal per ounce
already do the tuna but this freeze dried avocado intrigues me immensely. Do you DIY them or buy them? I freaking love avacado!
i actually havnt made or bought any, my buddy had some he made this year and this thread just remind me! i need to look into it more too!
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Kirkland chocolate covered almonds equates to about 150 calories an ounce. They are freaking crack.
Also, your statement about having to pack food you’ll eat rings way too true. I am having to constantly rotate my food because I’ll get sick of something.
Except chocolate covered almonds. I never get sick of those. I just told the wife she’s no longer allowed to buy them, I have no control.
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I make my own meals and protein/breakfast/snack bars.
If you need a change from the idahodian base, use couscous. My go to is diced up chicken breast cooked in cream of mushroom soup. Cook till down, then divide and dehydrate. Throw in vacuum seal bag with the ziplok end with flavored couscous of choice. 30min to an hour, throw in your hot water, place wherever and let it do it's thing and eat. Makes a dang good hot dinner.
My bars that I make are insanely high protein and calorie. I don't remember the exact numbers. I cant have them in the house as I have no control and will eat them all when no burning calories. They make people fat.
ingredients include cooked quinoa, protein powder, peanut butter, honey, cinnamon, an egg, folded in mixed nuts, chocolate chips, and maybe a little other stuff that I am not thinking, as I don't have my written down recipe in front of me. Cook, cool, cut, freeze, vacuum seal, put lock on freezer until your trip.
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Two words... doritos
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I switched from Justin’s peanut butter to Trail Butter maple and sea salt nut butter. Much tastier than Justins PB. I usually put it on my jerky. And before any one makes wise cracks, I didn’t name the stuff..lol
I was packing about 1.5lbs per day and still had 1lb left over at the end of 5 days on the last trip out. I packed so I wasn’t eating the same stuff everyday but I think as the others have said I still got bored on some of the stuff I took, especially the protein bars.
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Also for lunches I like the tuna packets, I try to find the packets of mayonnaise with the highest amount of calories and put one or two of these in each pack of tuna. A packet of relish makes it even better.
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We are all different, but something I always have in my food bag is two Keebler Toast and Peanut Butter packets per day. They are salty, have a fair amount of calories, cheap, and I find them very easy to eat (with some liquid). They have been a part of my food kit for well over two decades of alpine climbing, backcountry skiing, etc.. I’m also quite fond of Pilot Crackers with cheese and salami; I’ve used them on quite a few 2+ week trips and they hold together well and are pretty compact and easy to use. I’ll also put peanut butter on them or eat them with a freezer dried dinner for some extra calories and carbs.
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All you need is some Lenny and Larry’s and c4 power! All the c4power
Also if you want freeze dry avocados I may know a guy.... :chuckle:
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Two words... doritos
Are they any good after being freeze dried? Does it cut lots of weight out?
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After my moose hunt I’ve come to the conclusion that a snickers a day is mandatory... also, those Kirkland signature trail mix packs are pretty money. Both not the lightest weight, but have 250+ calories per and you will definitely eat them no matter how tired you are. Major moral boost!
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I'll second the snickers even though I'd prefer a milky way 😀 I always pack cliff bars even though they are a chore to eat but not bad. Two for b-fast then dehydrated meals at lunch and dinner. Throw in trail mix and i can last about 6 days before I start eyeing the camp robbers wondering what they'd taste like. Also some sort of powdered drink supplement always helps.
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You guys are obviously not aware of the amount of candy I pack per day :chuckle: I could cut a half pound from my daily rations by just cutting out sour patch kids alone :chuckle:
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You guys are obviously not aware of the amount of candy I pack per day :chuckle: I could cut a half pound from my daily rations by just cutting out sour patch kids alone :chuckle:
At the volume I've ate sour patch kids in the past, I'm surprised i still have a tongue and roof of my mouth. That sugar is like crushed glass!
Yeah, trying to balance sugar, salt, fat and protein, snickers does it.
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Two words... doritos
Are they any good after being freeze dried? Does it cut lots of weight out?
you have no idea how amazing those doritos were! I about had a heart attack when the jon busted them out
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Two words... doritos
Are they any good after being freeze dried? Does it cut lots of weight out?
you have no idea how amazing those doritos were! I about had a heart attack when the jon busted them out
:chuckle: they’ve gotta have a high calorie to weight ratio too
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This year I will have to rework my food. I switched over to paleo and recently learned my digestive system is intolerant to eggs. This kills me since I cant eat RX bars anymore.
One of my staples that I like is smoked salmon, I smoke a lot of white kings which are super oily.
My all time favorite backpacking food though are honey stingers, although in freezing temps the honey crystallizes and they are not as good.
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You guys are obviously not aware of the amount of candy I pack per day :chuckle: I could cut a half pound from my daily rations by just cutting out sour patch kids alone :chuckle:
At the volume I've ate sour patch kids in the past, I'm surprised i still have a tongue and roof of my mouth. That sugar is like crushed glass!
Yeah, trying to balance sugar, salt, fat and protein, snickers does it.
Snickers does it. I like to make my own trail mix. Fruits and nuts only for me, but you can up the fruit content for more sugars.
Start with a favorite mixed nut mix, add other nuts the companies cheap out on. I like pistachios and pecans.
Add dried fruits in desired proportions. I like dried blueberries, cherries, and cranberries. Could do apple, I guess.
I also add a couple of salt packets from McDonald's or other fine ground, because I sweat a lot and get headaches and cramps if I don't stay up on salt and liquids.
I suppose you could add chocolate to it, too.
It is not cheap but it has everything a body needs.
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I never take in as many calories as I burn when backpack hunting but Ive gotten used to it. Being a little hungry isn't a bad thing. Im a big instant potato fan(so many flavors) and I will empty a bunch of cup a noodles into baggies to mix up my options. 2-3 Cup a noodles a day keeps a guy satisfied and they weigh next to nothing.
Or a 1lb of peanut butter and flour tortillas will get you by just fine. :o
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Also, Pringle’s, cheese-its, and triscuits for the tuna.
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I dont think pringles cans are gonna save me much space. Besides, Ritz snack packs are the king of the tuna pouch :chuckle:
Probably gonna leave tuna out of my meal plan as the weight to calorie ratio isn't the best. I eat tuna and ritz literally every day on a normal backpack hunt but on a normal hunt I dont care about weight or space. I'm also usually not packing snow shoes, crampons, ice axe, and climbing rope :chuckle:
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I never take in as many calories as I burn when backpack hunting but Ive gotten used to it. Being a little hungry isn't a bad thing. Im a big instant potato fan(so many flavors) and I will empty a bunch of cup a noodles into baggies to mix up my options. 2-3 Cup a noodles a day keeps a guy satisfied and they weigh next to nothing.
Or a 1lb of peanut butter and flour tortillas will get you by just fine. :o
my metabolism runs way to high to operate in a deficit. Been there done that, and avoid it when possible.
I've done the math and it's not realistic to just pack peanut butter and a spoon for a week long hunt. I could 100% survive on just peanut butter though😍
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@92xj if you get a chance post up that bar recipe. I'd like to give these a try
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:yeah:
Those bars sound good
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Here is my made up recipe and the powder I used in the last batch, which turned out as my favorite batch so far.
Sometimes I add a little more or a little less of each depending on the day.
I can't remember exactly but I think the last time I made them I cut 8 bars and they ended up being around 350 calories each.
If you happen to start selling these, name them after me and give me 25% of the profit.
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Awesome! I'm gonna whip some up and I'll do a nutrition breakdown on them.
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Why do you use Quinoa?
@92xj
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They say it's a super food and I need some super powers on the mountain.
It acts as a little binder, some calories, a lot of good carbs, some fober and protein.
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So what would be a good substitute for the over priced protein powder?
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I guess whatever kind of underpriced protein powder you want to buy in a flavor you like?
With chocolate flavored powder they turn out tasting like a nutty brownie to me.
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Wonder how the PB powder would be. Go half chocolate and half peanut butter
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Two batches ago, I used the protein powder that was peanutbutter cup and chocolate. It tasted very well. I rotate flavors of my protein to keep it interesting. I imagine anything but the fruity flavors would taste real good.
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Here is my made up recipe and the powder I used in the last batch, which turned out as my favorite batch so far.
Sometimes I add a little more or a little less of each depending on the day.
I can't remember exactly but I think the last time I made them I cut 8 bars and they ended up being around 350 calories each.
If you happen to start selling these, name them after me and give me 25% of the profit.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7920/45645152185_d41d02f5ed_b.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7823/44741262810_cfd394d02b_b.jpg)
Thank you, looks good! Going to try that next time I make bars :tup:
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So has anybody ever been on a keto or carnivore diet and tried staying on it while in the backcountry? Seems like this would really complicate things as most backpacking food contains high amounts of carbs and calories for energy. I'm sure it could be done, I know J Phelps stayed on his diet plan while elk hunting last year, but I don't know what his strategy was for it.
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Keto bricks. I make my own and you will not beat the calorie to weight ratio. I’m experimenting with added electrolytes for endurance events, one less thing to carry and mess with.
Not everyone can eat them day in and out, but I’m not picky. You can supplement with jerky, nuts or other stuff. Mine are all the same flavor but you can make different ones too.
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Here is my made up recipe and the powder I used in the last batch, which turned out as my favorite batch so far.
Sometimes I add a little more or a little less of each depending on the day.
I can't remember exactly but I think the last time I made them I cut 8 bars and they ended up being around 350 calories each.
If you happen to start selling these, name them after me and give me 25% of the profit.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7920/45645152185_d41d02f5ed_b.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7823/44741262810_cfd394d02b_b.jpg)
That sounds pretty good, never tried to make my own bars.... guess its time to try it. Thanks!
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I pack 4 pieces of string cheese per day, might be the Wisconsin in me lol.
I'm also a big fan of nut butters and olive oil packets, can't beat either of them in terms of calories per ounce.
Just make sure you're used to a high fat diet or you'll be shatting your pants on your hunt.
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I pack 4 pieces of string cheese per day, might be the Wisconsin in me lol.
I'm also a big fan of nut butters and olive oil packets, can't beat either of them in terms of calories per ounce.
Just make sure you're used to a high fat diet or you'll be shatting your pants on your hunt.
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we use olive oil in almost everything at home. I used to run the single serve packets in my food bags but God those things are some leaking SOB's! 80+ days a year out of a backpack I got a bit tired of oily food bags and finally just had enough and cut them from the lineup :chuckle:
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I dehydrate all my own food too and I am all about the Idahoans potatoes combined with a crock pot sort of meal that I cook with veggies and a meat of your choosing. Add in some of those instant gravy packets sometimes too. Im a big fan of those cocoa covered almonds that were previously mentioned as well. Dehydrated mango and bananas are also a staple of mine.
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I have a pocket rocket heater and a canteen cup. Ramen noodles and snickers!
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Free dehydrated meals!
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,235407.0.html
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How about MCT oil?
I pack 4 pieces of string cheese per day, might be the Wisconsin in me lol.
I'm also a big fan of nut butters and olive oil packets, can't beat either of them in terms of calories per ounce.
Just make sure you're used to a high fat diet or you'll be shatting your pants on your hunt.
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we use olive oil in almost everything at home. I used to run the single serve packets in my food bags but God those things are some leaking SOB's! 80+ days a year out of a backpack I got a bit tired of oily food bags and finally just had enough and cut them from the lineup :chuckle:
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probably just a whole bunch of top ramen
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probably just a whole bunch of top ramen
380 cals a package at 3oz per package so 9 ramen a day would put me at 3,420 calories. 27oz of goodness a day! You sir are a genius :chuckle:
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Keto bricks. I make my own and you will not beat the calorie to weight ratio. I’m experimenting with added electrolytes for endurance events, one less thing to carry and mess with.
Not everyone can eat them day in and out, but I’m not picky. You can supplement with jerky, nuts or other stuff. Mine are all the same flavor but you can make different ones too.
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Would you mind sharing your recipe?
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probably just a whole bunch of top ramen
380 cals a package at 3oz per package so 9 ramen a day would put me at 3,420 calories. 27oz of goodness a day! You sir are a genius :chuckle:
diarrhea for 2 days followed by ramen plug up :chuckle: