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Title: Pcp air rifles
Post by: jdb on January 06, 2019, 03:29:12 PM
Anyone shoot one? I really can’t get use to the the trigger/recoil of springers. Looking at the Benjamin discovery right now unless someone has a better option? Or knows of a springer that has a good crisp trigger and that doesn’t feel like fence post
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Smossy on January 06, 2019, 04:01:15 PM
Now your getting into my zone. What do you need to know?
If your getting your first pcp, I highly highly recommend the Benjamin Marauder.
Its alittle bit more money but youll never need to buy another one.
Also if you can afford it, spend atleast half the cost on a good 4-9x scope.
This thing is absolutely surgical even at 100 yards.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: KFhunter on January 06, 2019, 04:06:40 PM
Top it with a night vision scope


Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Smossy on January 06, 2019, 04:12:55 PM
Top it with a night vision scope



and in .25 cal. That thing will drop some coyotes in theyre tracks if you put it in the right spot.

or just go balls to walls and get the Benjamin Bulldog and blow holes through cape buffalo with a .357 slug.  :dunno:

No brainers there lol
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: huntingfool7 on January 06, 2019, 04:24:57 PM
Spend the extra money and buy one that has baffles.  Any of the more powerful PCP air rifles will be noisier than expected without baffles.
The Maurauder is a good one.  It's a great little rifle, good trigger and doesn't feel like a fence post.  Stepping up to .25 caliber is a lot like shooting a standard .22 long rifle. 
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: jdb on January 06, 2019, 05:01:39 PM
So I’m just looking for a rifle I can snipe starlings, maybe the occasional sage rat, collared dove, ect. I also want to target shoot with it. Not like competitive just “precision plinking”. I also don’t care for the look of the maurader and am in no way off put by a single shot. A couple questions I have are; can I charge it (pump it up) and leave it for any length of time? Is there a better option from another brand that looks more like a traditional rifle? If anyone has any experience withtbediscovery how’s the trigger? I really appreciate all the info I can get
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Smossy on January 06, 2019, 05:45:36 PM
So I’m just looking for a rifle I can snipe starlings, maybe the occasional sage rat, collared dove, ect. I also want to target shoot with it. Not like competitive just “precision plinking”. I also don’t care for the look of the maurader and am in no way off put by a single shot. A couple questions I have are; can I charge it (pump it up) and leave it for any length of time? Is there a better option from another brand that looks more like a traditional rifle? If anyone has any experience withtbediscovery how’s the trigger? I really appreciate all the info I can get
You technically CAN leave it fully charged but few things happen, obviously over time the compressed air will lose its compression, and or you will wind up blowing rings out, Its really easy to just purge it when storing it.
To be perfectly honest if your a simple person and just want to be able to pop birds and small rats, the discovery will be a fine rifle for you.
Just spend the money and buy a tank to fill off, if you go the hand pump route your gonna hate life THEN spend the money anyways on a tank, hah.
I promise you this, any entry level pcp like the discovery will outshoot any springer even with the fancy "anti recoil hold". Theyre just inconsistent.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: jdb on January 06, 2019, 06:11:09 PM
Ok so is there a cheaper air tank than Benjamin? Where do you have the tanks filled? How long does a tank fill last?? Thank for all the help!
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Smossy on January 06, 2019, 06:46:54 PM
Ok so is there a cheaper air tank than Benjamin? Where do you have the tanks filled? How long does a tank fill last?? Thank for all the help!
https://m.banggood.com/PCP-Air-Fill-Station-Filling-Charging-Adapter-With-24-Inch-Microbore-Hose-p-1315070.html?gmcCountry=US&currency=USD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_union&utm_content=2zou&utm_campaign=ssc-us-en-all&gclid=Cj0KCQiA68bhBRCKARIsABYUGid44MPDsL6d-Vg1sXBYWmZCDu6bL86HFah18nhl_SefXkjr1szvFNoaAhC3EALw_wcB

https://m.banggood.com/0_5L-58-18UNF-Aluminum-Tank-Air-Cyclinder-Bottle-3000-PSI-For-Paintball-PCP-p-1240253.html?rmmds=search


Thats basically all you need for any pcp, You can usually find full size scuba tanks for like 50 bucks on places like offerup or craigslist. Give you lots of air  :tup:
Painball shops, some hobby shops.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: huntingfool7 on January 07, 2019, 06:50:25 AM
I've always left my PCP charged.  I have never purged the air or noticed a drop in pressure over time.  Have you seen that recommended somewhere? 

For targeting starlings and doves I would avoid the .25 caliber.

The hand pump works fine if you're not doing a lot of shooting in a sitting.  You don't want the hand pump to heat up so you have to do ten strokes, then rest.  An air tank would pay off in the long run and save the labor.

Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: HighlandLofts on January 07, 2019, 11:55:03 AM
So can you fill the pressurized tanks with a regular 220 electric air compressor?.

How many shots do you get off one tank of air?

I have been thi king of picking one up for a couple of years now.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: jdb on January 07, 2019, 12:29:54 PM
I think you have to have the tanks filled at a scuba shop.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Hanapaa on January 07, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
Anyone shoot one? I really can’t get use to the the trigger/recoil of springers. Looking at the Benjamin discovery right now unless someone has a better option? Or knows of a springer that has a good crisp trigger and that doesn’t feel like fence post

Very fun guns to shoot.  Had an Evanix AR6 in .22, Drops coyotes & slices through crow like butter with 65 ft/lb energy.   People even drop deer and bigger game with larger calibers.
Pyramid air has everything you need at reasonable prices.
https://hardairmagazine.com/ham-columns/airgun-hunting/jim-chapman-hunts-deer-big-bore-air-rifle/
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: huntandjeep on January 07, 2019, 07:08:46 PM
Buddy has an Airforce Condor in .22 ( maybe .25  cant remember) . Anyway that thing is scary accurate and pretty quite.  About as loud as my suppressed .22
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Hanapaa on January 07, 2019, 09:06:02 PM
Anyone shoot one? I really can’t get use to the the trigger/recoil of springers. Looking at the Benjamin discovery right now unless someone has a better option? Or knows of a springer that has a good crisp trigger and that doesn’t feel like fence post

RWS 54 Diana Airking is a Springer which is recoilless since the barrel slides.  The T06 trigger is adjustable.  I have this gun and it is Very accurate. Dropped a starling  from a tree at 86 yds.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: huntingfool7 on January 09, 2019, 11:37:10 AM
So can you fill the pressurized tanks with a regular 220 electric air compressor?.

How many shots do you get off one tank of air?

I have been thi king of picking one up for a couple of years now.

No, the top end on a standard compressor is about 175 psi.  PCP air guns and scuba tanks run at 3,000 psi.

Shots per fill varies widely depending on the gun, caliber and settings.  Large bore PCPs generally only get a few, full power shots per fill.  Smaller 177 22 & 25 caliber airguns can generally get around 20 full power shots.  I run my .25 until it's empty.  Those are not full power shots but they work well for dispatching.  I've never counted but I probably get 50 or more shots before fill up.  Again, those are on the low power setting and I'll run it until it won't shoot.  A 30 grain round ball will crack a close range skull even at very low pressure.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: Weaklink on January 09, 2019, 12:32:26 PM
My experience.  First bought a Hatasn Bullboss .25.  It would group a horrible 6" at 15 yards, so it went back.  Big POS.

Next, bought A Benjamin Marauder .25.   LOVE IT!!  Great trigger, super accurate, and powerful.  Purchased the rifle off a known super-tuner guru off of Gateway to Airguns PCP forums.  He test fired, adjusted trigger weight, tuned for the 33.95 gn heavy pellets I was using for coons.  My groups at 50 yards are probably the size of a quarter.  Mounted a flashlight and 3x9 UTG illuminated reticle cheap scope.  Rabbits, Rats, Raccoon, etc.  all dispatched with one shot.  I use a $50 eBay Chinese hand pump.  Pump-up after each empty mag, usually from 2500 back to 3000psi.  I don't mind; it's not that hard for a grown man, takes just a minute.  I leave the gun pressurized and ready to go at all times, in case the Mrs. needs to defend her chickens.  The Mrs. enjoys shooting as well since it has no recoil and no noise and we can shoot in yard; don't have to drive to range.  Mrs. brags to her girlfriends what an awesome shot she is.  Awesome gun.  Nice & quiet.  Backyard friendly.
Title: Re: Pcp air rifles
Post by: KFhunter on February 02, 2019, 05:23:54 PM
If anyone wants to get into this there's a guy in Colville WA with some pretty sweet setups, scuba tanks, pellet molds,  big .357 cal pellets and larger even. 

He's by Super 1 and Circle D transmission...not sure the name of his place.  It's work in progress.
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