Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2019, 08:05:29 PM
Well here's the most recent adventure.
(https://i.imgur.com/mFTBiTj.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/MxTXeaP.jpg?2)
That was my 270 Boondoggle reamer and that's my 1-7" twist K&P barrel blank after it got "sodomized" by the bad reamer. If you look close at the barrel you can see where the reamer flutes "grabbed" just as the shoulder of the reamer hit the barrel. Before anyone points at the smith, I can say that this is an "A List" smith who knows exactly what he's doing. We've pretty much decided that the flutes on the reamer were the wrong pitch. Now to see how PTG wants to handle the reamer. Fortunately the smith doing the work has a good relationship with Dave Kiff so I'm hoping for a decent outcome.
Given the options of waiting another 10-12+ weeks for PTG to cut a new reamer or just changing the chambering, I took the easy way out and decided to just go with the 27 Nosler. I'm not crazy about the Nosler case just because the wider diameter (.550" instead of the .524" of the 8x68s case I started with) rebated rimmed case doesn't feed as well as other designs. It's the same issue I have with the RUM cases. I'll play with it and see how it performs, but I think I'm ready to move on from this project. Oh well, on to the next one!!!
Post by: MtnMuley on January 17, 2019, 08:11:44 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 17, 2019, 08:21:10 PM
Post by: Jason on January 17, 2019, 08:26:18 PM
Post by: NWShooter on January 17, 2019, 08:27:12 PM
Sucks to have that happen. Especialy when your looking forward to working with a new wildcat and barrel/action combo.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 17, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
Post by: Crunchy on January 17, 2019, 08:34:24 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2019, 08:51:00 PM
The up side to this is that if I decide to just give up on the barrels and move on, they can easily be set up to work on a Savage action since the barrel threads are the same.
Post by: jasnt on January 18, 2019, 03:36:49 AM
Post by: bullfisher on January 18, 2019, 06:22:02 AM
Post by: yorketransport on January 18, 2019, 06:55:04 PM
What a bummer. And now your going to slum it with the nosler :chuckle:
I already thought about having them push the 27 Nosler reamer in about .180" deeper so that I'd end up with essentially a 270/338 RUM. That way I could at least use brass with a 338 RUM head stamp and avoid the Nosler name. :tup:
Post by: Jolten on January 18, 2019, 07:38:31 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 18, 2019, 07:47:45 PM
What's a reamer cost?
That one was about $180
Post by: NWShooter on January 18, 2019, 07:51:27 PM
What's a reamer cost?
On the average a custom reamer is give or take about $200.00. Depending on the shoulder placement as compared to the parent cartridge it could include the cost of a "Go" and "No Go" gauge. $40.0 or so each.
So to set up to chamber a wildcat could cost you. $280.00 plus just in a reamer and gauges.
The cost of the reamer that broke isn't the issue to the wildcatter. It's the set back! It's the aggravation of some of us do it right all day every frikn day & or close.. Why can't they!? A company can only screw up so much.
Post by: jasnt on January 18, 2019, 08:04:24 PM
:chuckle: I would just because of that.What a bummer. And now your going to slum it with the nosler :chuckle:
I already thought about having them push the 27 Nosler reamer in about .180" deeper so that I'd end up with essentially a 270/338 RUM. That way I could at least use brass with a 338 RUM head stamp and avoid the Nosler name. :tup:
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 18, 2019, 08:09:21 PM
Post by: Jolten on January 18, 2019, 08:20:59 PM
What's a reamer cost?
On the average a custom reamer is give or take about $200.00. Depending on the shoulder placement as compared to the parent cartridge it could include the cost of a "Go" and "No Go" gauge. $40.0 or so each.
So to set up to chamber a wildcat could cost you. $280.00 plus just in a reamer and gauges.
The cost of the reamer that broke isn't the issue to the wildcatter. It's the set back! It's the aggravation of some of us do it right all day every frikn day & or close.. Why can't they!? A company can only screw up so much.
Sorry wasn't trying to suggest that it was the price of the reamer that caused the issue. I was curious about it as I might eventually want to go this route.
Sorry if I side tracked your post Yorken. Hopefully they make it right with you.
Post by: b23 on January 18, 2019, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: Reidus on January 19, 2019, 09:54:18 AM
Manson and JGS have been great to deal with.
Post by: Tracker0721 on January 19, 2019, 10:31:54 AM
Post by: Crunchy on January 19, 2019, 11:00:40 AM
Post by: yorketransport on January 19, 2019, 04:43:39 PM
What's a reamer cost?
On the average a custom reamer is give or take about $200.00. Depending on the shoulder placement as compared to the parent cartridge it could include the cost of a "Go" and "No Go" gauge. $40.0 or so each.
So to set up to chamber a wildcat could cost you. $280.00 plus just in a reamer and gauges.
The cost of the reamer that broke isn't the issue to the wildcatter. It's the set back! It's the aggravation of some of us do it right all day every frikn day & or close.. Why can't they!? A company can only screw up so much.
Sorry wasn't trying to suggest that it was the price of the reamer that caused the issue. I was curious about it as I might eventually want to go this route.
Sorry if I side tracked your post Yorken. Hopefully they make it right with you.
NWShooter pretty much nailed it. When you spend 14+ months waiting to accumulate parts for a project, there's nothing more irritating than being bumped back again because of bad tooling. Now, it's not just the time to get a new tool made but also getting bumped back on the work list of an already busy smith. Waiting for PTG to crank out a new reamer could set this back another 6-8 weeks minimum. :bash:
I spoke with the smith again today and he's already working with PTG to see about fast tracking a replacement reamer. If the time line on that isn't too bad I may still be saved from having to use anything with a Nosler head stamp. :chuckle: It's going to be another example of PTG making an error, and then going above and beyond to do damage control.
In my business experiences, it's always cheaper and easier to focus on getting the job done right the first time. Having good customer service or warranties are great, but if every customer gets to experience it then maybe it's time to step the QC (cough, cough, VORTEX, cough, cough). :stirthepot:
Post by: jasnt on January 19, 2019, 04:57:34 PM