Post by: Rainier10 on January 21, 2019, 11:41:18 AM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,235627.0.html
Where is the uproar over deer getting slaughtered on winter range? A call from every member on here for more enforcement and stiffer penalties?
There are some and that is great, but.....
if this same pic was posted from Swakane, Entiat or the methow and there was even a hint a tribal evolvement that same thread would be 8 pages long on day one.
Just seems odd to me.
Post by: Jpmiller on January 21, 2019, 11:59:19 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 21, 2019, 12:04:58 PM
I saw right after jackelope posted that and made a note not to read it again cause I figured that's where it was headed :dunno: maybe because it was whitetails ?
:yeah:
They're whitetails and appear to be does. If they were muley bucks look out. Moderators would have to watch the thread like a hawk.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 21, 2019, 12:14:24 PM
Why do you think that is?I saw right after jackelope posted that and made a note not to read it again cause I figured that's where it was headed :dunno: maybe because it was whitetails ?
:yeah:
They're whitetails and appear to be does. If they were muley bucks look out. Moderators would have to watch the thread like a hawk.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 21, 2019, 12:17:58 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 21, 2019, 12:41:12 PM
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 21, 2019, 12:43:42 PM
Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 21, 2019, 12:48:12 PM
Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.You make some good points.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
Post by: boneaddict on January 21, 2019, 12:56:40 PM
Interest level I guess.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 21, 2019, 01:18:44 PM
I’m a people watcher and watching what gets people worked up here and what is just ho hum is interesting to me.
Post by: jackelope on January 21, 2019, 02:01:18 PM
Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.
I’m not. There’s already a lack of hunting opportunities in this state. In an area where mule deer don’t thrive, something(whitetails) is better than nothing.
Bigshooter ... I keep going back to this. I’m assuming you’re not implying you’re ok with poachers killing 5 whitetail does, at least some of which were probably carrying fawns, because you don’t like whitetails.
Say it ain’t so...
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 21, 2019, 02:16:04 PM
Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.
So, are you defending poaching whitetails and killing people with whom you disagree? That's kind of bizarre. We won't get into the wolves statement. But please explain what you mean about the other two. Thanks.
Post by: huntnphool on January 21, 2019, 02:51:16 PM
Why is it that the thread below is five days old and only three pages long?
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,235627.0.html
Where is the uproar over deer getting slaughtered on winter range? A call from every member on here for more enforcement and stiffer penalties?
There are some and that is great, but.....
if this same pic was posted from Swakane, Entiat or the methow and there was even a hint a tribal evolvement that same thread would be 8 pages long on day one.
Just seems odd to me.
There are 2200+ views, and on par with comments/views with the Methow thread.
Post by: Bob33 on January 21, 2019, 03:00:45 PM
Post by: Alchase on January 21, 2019, 05:09:23 PM
There are definite hotbuttonsheads that can blow a thread up.
I’m a people watcher and watching what gets people worked up here and what is just ho hum is interesting to me.
Fixed it for ya :chuckle:
Post by: Bigshooter on January 21, 2019, 05:22:45 PM
Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.
I’m not. There’s already a lack of hunting opportunities in this state. In an area where mule deer don’t thrive, something(whitetails) is better than nothing.
Bigshooter ... I keep going back to this. I’m assuming you’re not implying you’re ok with poachers killing 5 whitetail does, at least some of which were probably carrying fawns, because you don’t like whitetails.
Say it ain’t so...
I never said I'm ok with poaching. But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 21, 2019, 05:28:02 PM
Tribal elk or deer = outrage and 8 pages day one.
Non native mule = that’s not right, 2 pages day one.
Non native mule deer two point= no good but 3pt minimum is a dumb rule.
5 whitetail does in winter= sucks but there’s lots of does
Wolf=SSS
Just tying to gauge where the priorities are.
Wondering when we are going to look back and say remember all the whitetail we used to see? Too many predators in this state.
I'm 100% for the eradication of whitetails, wolves, and liberals.
So, are you defending poaching whitetails and killing people with whom you disagree? That's kind of bizarre. We won't get into the wolves statement. But please explain what you mean about the other two. Thanks.
:yike: :hello:
Post by: smithkl42 on January 21, 2019, 05:44:33 PM
I never said I'm ok with poaching. But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.
I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?
Post by: Bigshooter on January 21, 2019, 05:47:37 PM
I never said I'm ok with poaching. But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.
I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?
No not really.
Post by: GBoyd on January 21, 2019, 06:46:04 PM
I never said I'm ok with poaching. But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.
I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?
No not really.
So we're left to guess?
It's probably not a whitetails in the garden situation, living in Lewis County. So it's either a traumatic experience as a child or just good old fashioned trolling.
Post by: Dan-o on January 21, 2019, 07:42:28 PM
I never said I'm ok with poaching. But I would be very happy with a shoot on site 365 days a year no tag needed limit on whitetails until they were all gone.
I've heard tons of folks on these forums complain that there are too many coyotes, too many wolves, too many cougars. But this is the first time I've heard someone complain that there were too many deer. Bigshooter, care to explain?
No not really.
So we're left to guess?
It's probably not a whitetails in the garden situation, living in Lewis County. So it's either a traumatic experience as a child or just good old fashioned trolling.
I'm not looking to argue or troll, but my guess is simply that he's a diehard Muley fan.
No offense intended if that's not it.
Post by: grundy53 on January 21, 2019, 08:27:27 PM
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Post by: grundy53 on January 21, 2019, 08:27:59 PM
pretty similiar to most......take the Are you watching the video series thread. Even with a little self promotion or bump posts from friends or the peanut gallery, (Thats you Karl Blanchard :chuckle: ) only a page or two long after a week. Throw in an orange vest comment, and we doubled in size while I was at lunch.Sorry about that.
Interest level I guess.
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Post by: Rainier10 on January 21, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
I think the reason that thread didn't blow up but a tribal one would is because almost everyone is against poachers. We are all in agreement. So there isn't much back and forth. There are only so many posts until it's pointless to post another. With a tribal kill there are folks on both side. So there is a lot of back and forth. But that's just my theory.Great point and one I had thought about driving around today. Thanks for bringing that option up.
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When everyone is in agreement the thread dies.
Look how this one blew up with comments when bigshooter made his comments that were different than most.
Post by: bearpaw on January 21, 2019, 09:11:37 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 21, 2019, 09:47:30 PM
Full disclosure from me as the guy who started the thread.
Post by: JWEBB on January 21, 2019, 10:34:19 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 22, 2019, 05:29:12 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 22, 2019, 07:48:56 AM
I think the reason that thread didn't blow up but a tribal one would is because almost everyone is against poachers. We are all in agreement. So there isn't much back and forth. There are only so many posts until it's pointless to post another. With a tribal kill there are folks on both side. So there is a lot of back and forth. But that's just my theory.
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Sounds right.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 22, 2019, 07:51:14 AM
On the tribal threads you get responses that it is legal for tribal members to shoot as many deer and elk as they want and that is what keeps those threads going, the banter back and forth. Of course they do have the right to shoot 5 does if they want and whoever shot the deer in the Tucannon probably didn't have the right to, they were breaking the law.
I believe just last year a group of younger tribe members did just that, shot 4 or 5 does and put them in a spot to bait in bald eagles and then shot the eagles IIRC. That thread didn't go too far as I recall. I don't remember anyone coming on here saying that it was okay to shoot the deer just to use as bait for eagle feathers. So maybe some tribal threads don't get blown up and more attention than a poaching thread.
Looks like today is going to be a busy one. I see there are two new poaching threads. :bash:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 22, 2019, 08:12:20 AM
In the case about the eagles, if I remember right they got busted and were in hot water so not much to discuss.
As for the whitetails, I believe those river rats are considered rodents so not sure why they are so restrictive on their seasons :peep: :sry:
:chuckle:
Post by: boneaddict on January 22, 2019, 11:37:52 AM
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Interesting. The cuts they took are all the best jerky cuts. See who is selling deer jerky on the side
Post by: Rainier10 on January 22, 2019, 12:06:46 PM
And boom, it’s a ten pager in the making:chuckle:QuoteInteresting. The cuts they took are all the best jerky cuts. See who is selling deer jerky on the side
It is possible that it is tribal and just jerky meat and yes that would get that thread off an running, maybe even this one.
Post by: mtn muley madness on January 22, 2019, 12:26:43 PM
Post by: grundy53 on January 22, 2019, 03:47:13 PM
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