Post by: grundy53 on January 25, 2019, 01:13:38 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 25, 2019, 01:20:36 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2019, 01:25:55 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 25, 2019, 03:02:52 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 25, 2019, 03:04:47 PM
Outside of unit 39 in ID nothing compares to WA.
I take that back unit 62 in CO is a mad house from what I have been told. 62 is number 2 after 39 as the most hunted units in the west.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 25, 2019, 03:06:59 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 25, 2019, 03:11:05 PM
I've easily seen as many or more hunters in several states in high pressured areas as I've seen in WA. Karl's advice of outworking the next guy is the best advice I can think of in those situations and or any situations in any state. :twocents:
That's the no duh answer :chuckle:. But I will say in the last 10 years it's a different breed of hunter that is out hunting. Lot's of guys are trying to go deeper than anyone. It used to be get a mile from the road and you will get away from 99% of the hunters. Now I would say it's a lot more than 1 mile.
Post by: idahohuntr on January 25, 2019, 03:19:14 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 25, 2019, 03:22:34 PM
I've easily seen as many or more hunters in several states in high pressured areas as I've seen in WA. Karl's advice of outworking the next guy is the best advice I can think of in those situations and or any situations in any state. :twocents:
That's the no duh answer :chuckle:. But I will say in the last 10 years it's a different breed of hunter that is out hunting. Lot's of guys are trying to go deeper than anyone. It used to be get a mile from the road and you will get away from 99% of the hunters. Now I would say it's a lot more than 1 mile.
Absolutely. The day and age of the internet and google earth. I don't feel it's as "deep" as one can get, but more so, how "remote" can I get in areas that really hold deer, not just look like they hold deer. First hand knowledge and experience trumps any set of legs.
Post by: jstone on January 25, 2019, 03:26:18 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 25, 2019, 03:27:53 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on January 25, 2019, 03:43:10 PM
Alaska has some caribou seasons that are pretty wild. People all over, waiting around revving engines for the start. Then they all take off like a mad max movie. (This is what I've been told.)The 40 mile herd...up out of Fairbanks? I've seen some of the aftermath there and it sounds like what you describe :chuckle:
Post by: Stein on January 25, 2019, 03:57:51 PM
I was in MT one year hunting a single section (1 mile x 1 mile) piece of public that had 13 trucks. There was no access to any other public huntable land and the surrounding landowners don't allow hunting. That's the worst pumpkin patch I have ever seen although I did shoot a bull. :chuckle: I was the second truck in and happened to be in the right place at the right time when the sun came up. Two other bulls were shot and I probably heard 50 shots. :mgun2:
There are places outside of WA that get hammered. Look for units with general tags that are within an hour or two of a major population center and have good road access and try those on Saturday and Sunday.
BUT, even those units will be mostly vacant come Monday and certainly by Tuesday you will have them to yourself.
With as many hunters in WA and general elk tags and a short season, the chances of finding a spot with little pressure is very low the entire season. In other states, you can easily do that in many, many places.
Post by: cbond3318 on January 25, 2019, 04:20:56 PM
I've easily seen as many or more hunters in several states in high pressured areas as I've seen in WA. Karl's advice of outworking the next guy is the best advice I can think of in those situations and or any situations in any state. :twocents:
That's the no duh answer :chuckle:. But I will say in the last 10 years it's a different breed of hunter that is out hunting. Lot's of guys are trying to go deeper than anyone. It used to be get a mile from the road and you will get away from 99% of the hunters. Now I would say it's a lot more than 1 mile.
It’s the dang Mt OPS and cross fit.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2019, 05:13:17 PM
this. Hiking a trial is easy. Climbing a ridge is easy. Its dropping off that ridge and going up the next that guys refuse to do. I prove it in 4 or 5 states every year. Like I said, I've been all over 39 and 43. Never an issue finding solitude. As MtnMuley said, first and experience and knowledge of game trumps stout legs 100% of the time.I've easily seen as many or more hunters in several states in high pressured areas as I've seen in WA. Karl's advice of outworking the next guy is the best advice I can think of in those situations and or any situations in any state. :twocents:
That's the no duh answer :chuckle:. But I will say in the last 10 years it's a different breed of hunter that is out hunting. Lot's of guys are trying to go deeper than anyone. It used to be get a mile from the road and you will get away from 99% of the hunters. Now I would say it's a lot more than 1 mile.
Absolutely. The day and age of the internet and google earth. I don't feel it's as "deep" as one can get, but more so, how "remote" can I get in areas that really hold deer, not just look like they hold deer. First hand knowledge and experience trumps any set of legs.
Post by: bobcat on January 25, 2019, 05:17:18 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2019, 05:19:53 PM
What about those of us who don't want to, or aren't capable, of outworking everyone else?then high pressure units will suck for you :chuckle:
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 25, 2019, 05:24:27 PM
What about those of us who don't want to, or aren't capable, of outworking everyone else?
Just drive around I almost have better luck doing that than death marches but I continue to death march :dunno:
Post by: MtnMuley on January 25, 2019, 05:28:58 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2019, 05:40:15 PM
Nearly every seasoned back country hunter I know has taken their fair share of reapectable "road" bucks. :chuckle:our camp in CO has taken a 190, a 192, and a 184 from a vehicle. The 192 and 184 were consecutive days off the same doe group :chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on January 25, 2019, 06:02:14 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 25, 2019, 06:15:13 PM
So you're saying I can go and bring my Jordan's, sweats and sweater? :dunno:You have to bring fire sticks and Pepshi too!
Post by: idahohuntr on January 25, 2019, 10:06:10 PM
What about those of us who don't want to, or aren't capable, of outworking everyone else?Outsmart or outplan them...hunting areas that are far from services, crummy roads, etc. can whittle down the number of people just like steep climbs and rough terrain. In areas with long seasons - I've also had good luck skipping opening wknd and hunting the last week of season..this assumes the season is 3 or 4 weeks though, not just 2 weekends. Also - if your are going to have crowds, try to use that activity to your advantage. My :twocents:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2019, 10:17:03 PM
If your knees are bad, or you are disabled in some fashion, a better plan would be to avoid high traffic areas. Focus on the over looked areas and then learn those areas well enough that they will start to produce.
Post by: bobcat on January 25, 2019, 10:45:16 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 25, 2019, 10:54:43 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 25, 2019, 11:00:09 PM
I just thought it was funny that the plan is to go in further than everyone else. As if that is an easy thing to do. When I go out of state to hunt, one of the reasons I do so is because I don't want to have to hunt as hard as I would in Washington in order to be successful.But in doing so, you have gone further in than most. Every mile from I-5 is getting you further in.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on January 26, 2019, 01:30:22 AM
I just thought it was funny that the plan is to go in further than everyone else. As if that is an easy thing to do. When I go out of state to hunt, one of the reasons I do so is because I don't want to have to hunt as hard as I would in Washington in order to be successful.
There’s a lot of internet warriors on this site that like to talk about going steep and deep...
Post by: elkchaser54 on January 26, 2019, 02:02:50 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2019, 07:08:04 AM
I just thought it was funny that the plan is to go in further than everyone else. As if that is an easy thing to do. When I go out of state to hunt, one of the reasons I do so is because I don't want to have to hunt as hard as I would in Washington in order to be successful.then dont hunt mountainous terrain with a large road system and liberal tag allotments
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2019, 07:09:19 AM
yeah and theres a lot of guys on here that do it too :tup:I just thought it was funny that the plan is to go in further than everyone else. As if that is an easy thing to do. When I go out of state to hunt, one of the reasons I do so is because I don't want to have to hunt as hard as I would in Washington in order to be successful.
There’s a lot of internet warriors on this site that like to talk about going steep and deep...
Post by: boneaddict on January 26, 2019, 07:33:35 AM
You could be parked along side the road at 9 in the morning drinking a cup a coffee and a giant buck may step out in front of you and stand.......or you can hike 12 miles in and not see a deer.
Post by: jjhunter on January 26, 2019, 01:03:22 PM
Colorado is always busy. Idaho typically isn’t bad. Montana was a zoo this past year.
There is a lot of roadless area in 39 to get lost in.
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 26, 2019, 03:13:36 PM
So yea 39 is the most pressured unit in the west no questions asked and yes in a lot of cases hunting high pressured units in other states are still better hunting than Washington.
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Post by: Stein on January 29, 2019, 12:48:00 PM
I just thought it was funny that the plan is to go in further than everyone else. As if that is an easy thing to do. When I go out of state to hunt, one of the reasons I do so is because I don't want to have to hunt as hard as I would in Washington in order to be successful.
There’s a lot of internet warriors on this site that like to talk about going steep and deep...
Yeah, plenty of guys that go 5-7 miles into a unit that has a road every 2 miles in any direction. Some guys do go in deep and some guys go a mile in and let the deeper guys push the animals around or hunt the ones they walk by. I'm glad not everyone does the same thing.
Post by: Doublelunger on January 29, 2019, 01:20:07 PM