Post by: CaNINE on January 28, 2019, 10:32:59 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 28, 2019, 10:40:37 AM
Post by: Reidus on January 28, 2019, 11:10:42 AM
Post by: hogslayer on January 28, 2019, 12:28:09 PM
Post by: CaNINE on January 28, 2019, 12:43:23 PM
http://www.6mmbr.com/7mm284.html
The benchrest and F-Class crowd dig it.
I have a 300WSM with a heavy 26" varmint taper. I'm throwing 215 Hybrids at just over 2800 FPS using H4831SC. Could push things more with a different powder but it does what I need it to do. Great set up. It's a heavy rig though weighing 13 pounds. I've humped it around the mountains before and will continue to do so under certain conditions (especially if a horse is carrying it) :chuckle:
Post by: NWShooter on January 28, 2019, 03:51:14 PM
Post by: b23 on January 28, 2019, 05:27:04 PM
ok so I know brass availability is scarce for both of these. The goal is to push 180 hybrids or 175 ELD-X in the 2950 - 3000 FPS range. I'll be running a 26" 1:8 twist barrel on a long action. If you have first hand experience with these let me know your opinions. I've heard the SAUM is pretty easy to load for. The WSM has more case capacity so in theory has more versatility. Before I order a barrel I'm going to buy 200 pieces of brass to make sure I can cover the life of the barrel.
Just curious, but if you're using a long action, why are you limiting yourself to only the WSM or SAUM?
Post by: CaNINE on January 28, 2019, 05:46:56 PM
ok so I know brass availability is scarce for both of these. The goal is to push 180 hybrids or 175 ELD-X in the 2950 - 3000 FPS range. I'll be running a 26" 1:8 twist barrel on a long action. If you have first hand experience with these let me know your opinions. I've heard the SAUM is pretty easy to load for. The WSM has more case capacity so in theory has more versatility. Before I order a barrel I'm going to buy 200 pieces of brass to make sure I can cover the life of the barrel.
Just curious, but if you're using a long action, why are you limiting yourself to only the WSM or SAUM?
280AI in an 8 twist was a consideration. However I already have a 280AI Montana and looking to work in a different chambering. This project is for a carry weight stalking rifle for mostly mule deer hunts in Wyoming and Montana with capability to longer ranges if needed. The larger cased 7’s will be more than I need for this use. Well at least that’s my thought process.
Post by: hogslayer on January 28, 2019, 06:23:14 PM
Post by: yorketransport on January 28, 2019, 08:02:59 PM
ok so I know brass availability is scarce for both of these. The goal is to push 180 hybrids or 175 ELD-X in the 2950 - 3000 FPS range. I'll be running a 26" 1:8 twist barrel on a long action. If you have first hand experience with these let me know your opinions. I've heard the SAUM is pretty easy to load for. The WSM has more case capacity so in theory has more versatility. Before I order a barrel I'm going to buy 200 pieces of brass to make sure I can cover the life of the barrel.
Just curious, but if you're using a long action, why are you limiting yourself to only the WSM or SAUM?
That was my first thought too. In a long action I'd probably just do a 7 Rem Mag to keep it easy. I never take the easy route though so I'd just find some obscure case to cram in there, the 7 Dakota and 7 Blaser Mag would be excellent candidates. :chuckle:
Honestly I think I'd go with the WSM (either the 7/300 or standard 7 WSM) in a short action and just have the gun built with a Wyatt's extended mag box. The greater capacity of the WSM case would help offset the shorter OAL of the short action and still hit your performance goals. You should be able to hit 2950 with a 180gr Bullet in a standard WSM with a 2.900" OAL with very little trouble.
Post by: bullfisher on January 28, 2019, 08:08:20 PM
Post by: b23 on January 29, 2019, 10:24:05 AM
That was my first thought too. In a long action I'd probably just do a 7 Rem Mag to keep it easy. I never take the easy route though so I'd just find some obscure case to cram in there, the 7 Dakota and 7 Blaser Mag would be excellent candidates. :chuckle:
Honestly I think I'd go with the WSM (either the 7/300 or standard 7 WSM) in a short action and just have the gun built with a Wyatt's extended mag box. The greater capacity of the WSM case would help offset the shorter OAL of the short action and still hit your performance goals. You should be able to hit 2950 with a 180gr Bullet in a standard WSM with a 2.900" OAL with very little trouble.
In a long action I'd go 7mm Blaser Mag myself, but I'm maybe a little bias. ;)
If weight was something I was trying to keep down or maybe just wanted to use a short action, I'd probably go with either the WSM or SAUM, depending on which one had the best brass quality, and if brass quality was equal for both, I would pick the WSM first followed closely by the SAUM.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 29, 2019, 10:46:46 AM
Post by: Mtnwalker on January 29, 2019, 11:07:56 AM
Post by: CaNINE on January 29, 2019, 02:08:59 PM
Post by: Reidus on January 29, 2019, 02:32:45 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 29, 2019, 03:42:07 PM
300 WSM is awesome like Karl said. The upside to a 7 is the lighter recoil with good ballistics. The 200+ gr bullets in the 300 at 2800-2900 fps are thumpers. I wouldn't want to shoot them without a brake in a carry weight rifle. A 7saum or wsm with 180s would be doable without a brake.that's why I dont run the big heavies and went to the 185 vld. The difference between my rig and a .284 180 at 2950 is in a 10mph wind at 1,000 yards is .6 moa of windage less and a 1.4 minutes more drop.