Post by: Parasite on February 02, 2019, 04:16:59 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on February 02, 2019, 04:51:06 PM
Post by: 7mmCoug on February 02, 2019, 08:58:26 PM
Post by: lokidog on February 02, 2019, 09:12:05 PM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on February 02, 2019, 09:28:50 PM
Sturgeon are one I would likely release, though I have never eaten one and would like to try. Down here any big (>60lb) halibut if I ever catch one here.
Personally, I would keep all “wild” fish (in a legal season) I caught on principal...
Post by: Crunchy on February 02, 2019, 10:19:35 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on February 03, 2019, 11:21:13 AM
Post by: Crunchy on February 03, 2019, 11:35:46 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 03, 2019, 11:46:03 AM
It depends on the method of fishing. Methods that dont endanger the fish other than the fight makes releasing them easy. Bait is a no go as it increases the odds of more harm to the fish.I somewhat disagree. My experiences with bait or yarn or a bead with a circle hook have all been consistent in where and how the hook beds--corner of the jaw. A barbed treble hook on nearly anything seems to be most random and damaging, bait on a treble probably being the worst. Single J hooks can be kind of variable. I've had a few fish die from flies with J hook, seems they hook into the roof of the mouth or too far back.
Post by: Stein on February 03, 2019, 12:50:08 PM
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Post by: gaddy on February 03, 2019, 01:21:07 PM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on February 03, 2019, 01:26:29 PM
I think any fish species that is threatened or endangered should just be left alone and not played with by the C&R generation. Never could understand why anyone would want to spend the time and money to stress a fish out, kiss it on the lips and send it on it's way.
Killing something should never be a requirement for fishing. Wether you understand hiking boating or any other reason to get outside is your opinion and should not have impact on others freedom to do so. Many waters on the westside would be closed completely if there was not a catch and release season.
PETA has successfully banned catch and release fishing in some European countries. They are trying to do the same thing here disguising it as “mandatory retention”. Many fishermen support “mandatory retention” not understanding it is essentially a ban on C and R.
Post by: huntnnw on February 03, 2019, 11:59:40 PM
Post by: bornhunter on February 04, 2019, 07:36:02 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on February 04, 2019, 08:15:19 AM
Post by: jamesfromseattle on February 04, 2019, 09:05:10 AM
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.
This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.
Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.
Post by: lokidog on February 04, 2019, 10:51:56 AM
Could you guys start practicing C & GTM (give to me)?
:chuckle: Especially the Steelhead.... You can have all of my carp. :hello: :yike: :chuckle:
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on February 05, 2019, 03:17:33 PM
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Post by: WSU on February 05, 2019, 03:47:35 PM
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.
This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.
Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.
I won't fish on a charter because of their horrible fish handling. It's nothing more than pure greed to get those fish in the boat so the customer can leave with a fish. There is zero thought about any kind of care for the resource.
Post by: 7mmfan on February 05, 2019, 05:22:36 PM
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.
This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.
Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.
I won't fish on a charter because of their horrible fish handling. It's nothing more than pure greed to get those fish in the boat so the customer can leave with a fish. There is zero thought about any kind of care for the resource.
That's not necessarily true. Are there bad ones? Yes, just like every other group of anglers. Their livelihoods depend on having fish to catch, so it would behoove them to treat fish well. This is coming from a guy who guided for over 10 years.
Post by: Stein on February 05, 2019, 05:51:07 PM
In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.
This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.
Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.
Not to mention the ones that get eaten by seals when you release them. I probably saw 1/4 - 1/3 of my fish released eaten by seals this year and those are only the ones I saw getting munched by surfaced seals.
Post by: Crunchy on February 05, 2019, 06:25:19 PM
Post by: Jake Dogfish on February 05, 2019, 09:23:42 PM
This is a great point how mismanaged our fisheries are. Salt fisheries are barely hanging on at this point and may face a total closure in the future. Yet, we have charters, boat limits, you can catch and release endangered species with bait all day long! Gas motors trolllng with downriggers and sonar to find the fish with very little enforcement.In the ocean in my opinion you should keep the first two fish you catch Finn or no Finn we lose far to many silvers realeasing natives.
This is a good point. I know there was some discussions about changing the regs up in BC because of the number of wild coho getting unintentionally killed while people shifted through to keep a clipped fish. I didn’t follow the conversation so I’m not sure what happened with it.
Coho tend to beat themselves up (especially when people net them), so if it’s legal to do so I just keep the first two I catch, rather than holding out for clipped fish. Went on a Westport charter once during a selective season and remember them hauling the wild fish on board, letting the fish flop on the deck for a while, then kicking them back over the side. Some swam away and some just floundered and floated. Seemed counter productive. I caught 8 or 9 wilds before getting a keeper and I’m sure at least a couple died.
I won't fish on a charter because of their horrible fish handling. It's nothing more than pure greed to get those fish in the boat so the customer can leave with a fish. There is zero thought about any kind of care for the resource.
Meanwhile, at the local put and take lake with no outlet and nothing but degenerate stocker trout, the game Warden is watching. He going to spend hours there watching some kid who put scent on his bass lure to make sure he doesn’t release more than than 5 mushy stockers and bust him for doing so. :bash:
Post by: Crunchy on February 05, 2019, 10:12:05 PM
Post by: huntnnw on February 05, 2019, 10:26:41 PM
Post by: Crunchy on February 05, 2019, 10:29:22 PM
Post by: huntnphool on February 05, 2019, 10:53:44 PM
Sturgeon are fun to catch too, 20-30 fish days are never boring.
Post by: boneaddict on February 06, 2019, 06:30:11 AM
Post by: buckhorn2 on February 06, 2019, 07:17:56 AM
Post by: lokidog on February 06, 2019, 08:51:41 AM
I fish a lot every summer in the ocean and I live in Westport most of my friends fish. Even if you try to be careful releasing a fish there is going to some that float off and that's just sad. It's not the Kings there a lot tougher and very few die from a release. But the silvers are different they don't,t do as well on a release and many don,t make it and that's why I think Finn or no Finn it would save many fish if you were able to keep the first two you catch. It's sad to watch a nice fish just float off.
I have never even netted a Coho until I knew it had no fin, when required. I used to lose a fair number of fish as they spun in circles (including hatchery) while I held the leader looking for a fin, but I think they had a lot better chance at surviving without netting them.