Post by: WapitiTalk1 on February 04, 2019, 01:47:30 PM
Hunt Pressure Status: Marginal
Hunt: Partner Hunt
Tag: Archery; 3 PT or better bull
You're on your very first elk hunt and have wisely, hung out on Hunting WA and WapitiTalk and have learned a few tips/tricks from the indigenous population/members. You and your partner heard an unsolicited bugle at zero dark thirty and wisely, not made a peep on your own. You instead, work the prevailing morning thermals and decide to dump into the draw and work "up" on the bull you heard in an attempt to get close, really close, to where you think he and his gals may be heading before you make a decision on call or not call. This took you and your buddy a long time and NOW, the thermals are getting ready to change in the late morning....oh hell, they already are! Once in close, within what you think is 70ish yards or less of the beast (you've followed his vocalizations throughout the morning and stop at what you think just may be the bench he and his harem is/are bedding down on) and decide now is the time....... You position yourself on the bench/same elevation as the vocal bull, move a bit more across the bench, check the wind and see that it is starting to switch to going uphill and set/drop your partner/shooter and retreat to your calling location...... You quickly decide you're close enough to post a "threat" (one of Elknut's coined methods) which is/are several distressed whiny cow calls over your shoulder and almost in the same breath you throw out your biggest, baddest, not ready for prime time, SCREAM/challenge/I've got your cow mister bugle, directly at the unseen bull and in the next 5 seconds the response comes quick and it is both verbal and physical......HE'S COMING AND COMING/ FAST! Your partner may or may not have a shot from his angle but you're already at full draw and the bull is less than 20 yards from where you kneel.......... Shoot or no shot for the caller at this point in time?
If you're shooting, save the picture to your desktop and open in MS Paint, then place a spot, X, or whatever on the critter before you save it back to a jpg or png and add the marked up pic with your post.
Post by: Bullkllr on February 04, 2019, 02:57:10 PM
Mid-bugle, he looks unalerted- but that could change quick with the wind direction. Short-story- no shot there, but good chance one develops with a better angle real quick for one of us.
Post by: Stein on February 04, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
I don't like the angle at all for my personal skill-set.
Mid-bugle, he looks unalerted- but that could change quick with the wind direction. Short-story- no shot there, but good chance one develops with a better angle real quick for one of us.
:yeah:
Post by: bracer40 on February 04, 2019, 03:08:25 PM
Post by: Crunchy on February 04, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on February 04, 2019, 04:18:15 PM
Post by: pd on February 04, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Dead elk
Totally agree with Crunchy. Your partner might get a shot as well (probably a better shot, from the angle)--and this is fine by us. Two arrows are better than zero.
Dead elk.
Post by: Crunchy on February 04, 2019, 04:56:54 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on February 04, 2019, 06:29:06 PM
Dead elk
Totally agree with Crunchy. Your partner might get a shot as well (probably a better shot, from the angle)--and this is fine by us. Two arrows are better than zero.
Dead elk.
Unless Im looking at the picture wrong that's an impossible shot. The shooter is on the other side of the elk.
Post by: Crunchy on February 04, 2019, 06:45:56 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 04, 2019, 06:50:09 PM
Post by: lokidog on February 04, 2019, 06:54:54 PM
I'm shooting where the red dot is on the previous photo. Shot a bear once like that at 11 yards, he went ten and down.
Post by: tgomez on February 04, 2019, 08:57:01 PM
Dead elkDead Elk, I'm taking that shot. My bow hunting set up is shooting right at 300 FPS. At 20 yards that's a dead bull.
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on February 04, 2019, 09:13:37 PM
If I'm the caller then my arrow is going in the back of the ribs and coming out the pocket on the side we are all looking at in the pic.
That's what's tough about this pic, the " caller " arrow could mean behind the bull or in front. I agree with Karl if I am behind the bull.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on February 04, 2019, 09:49:55 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on February 05, 2019, 05:53:09 AM
Yes you are looking at it correctly just same spot opposite side of the neck.
Okay, I agree then. I would take the same shot. Or a different option. My choice would be easier though cuz I'm a muzzy hunter! :chuckle:
Post by: coachcw on February 05, 2019, 07:40:36 AM
If I'm the caller then my arrow is going in the back of the ribs and coming out the pocket on the side we are all looking at in the pic.unless i push you down and shoot over your shoulder ! plus id say the shooter has the shot . and if the bull is comming in why is he facing away from caller ?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 05, 2019, 08:13:54 AM
I think what's going on here is Wapati had Bloody Mary's for breakfast when he made this one up :chuckle: I'm getting what the arrows mean now. Caller has the same view as we do looking at the pic. Bull came between the shooter and caller. Callers wind is about to hit that bull in the face. Given that scenario, me as a caller am not taking that angle. Sorry but that red dot has a high likelihood of one lung or deflection. Theres a whole lot of structure to navigate right there on a massive bodied animal. That shot has killed animals and it's also left a lot for the crows. Straight on I'd send it. You start quartering that angle and I'm staying off the trigger. I'll try and make opportunity if he happens to pause or if I can stop him when he spins to leave :twocents:If I'm the caller then my arrow is going in the back of the ribs and coming out the pocket on the side we are all looking at in the pic.unless i push you down and shoot over your shoulder ! plus id say the shooter has the shot . and if the bull is comming in why is he facing away from caller ?
Post by: spudder1982 on February 07, 2019, 08:42:30 PM
Post by: Tjv28 on February 08, 2019, 10:46:08 PM