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Title: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: boneaddict on February 05, 2019, 01:38:06 PM
http://www.omakchronicle.com/news/2019/feb/05/some-sheriffs-wont-enforce-gun-law/ (http://www.omakchronicle.com/news/2019/feb/05/some-sheriffs-wont-enforce-gun-law/)
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: eastsidemallard74 on February 05, 2019, 02:00:40 PM
Grant county sheriff just announced he's not enforcing either
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: grundy53 on February 05, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
It's a good start.

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Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 05, 2019, 03:11:38 PM
Mason CO just said no as well....

Just Say No to stupid Gun Laws....
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: boneaddict on February 06, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
Good!   What’s up in the SE corner?
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 06, 2019, 06:56:13 AM
Clark Co. Sheriff Atkins posted on facebook that he'll follow the letter of 1639 because it was a vote of the people that passed it. I've supported him in two elections. There won't be a third.
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: ELKBURGER on February 06, 2019, 06:57:36 AM
Clark Co. Sheriff Atkins posted on facebook that he'll follow the letter of 1639 because it was a vote of the people that passed it. I've supported him in two elections. There won't be a third.
Yes, that was very disappointing to read....
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: boneaddict on February 06, 2019, 07:01:22 AM
I figured,with it’s proximity to Portland.   Disappointing. 
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: gramps on February 06, 2019, 08:11:35 AM
Walla Walla County, City and College Place City are going to enforce 1639
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: boneaddict on February 06, 2019, 08:50:11 AM
Barf
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: bigtex on February 06, 2019, 08:10:17 PM
Walla Walla County, City and College Place City are going to enforce 1639
Not surprised by the cities. Sheriff's Offices are more political due to the fact the Sheriff is actually elected. This is the reason why you typically only hear Sheriff's making these political statements and not police chiefs.

A Police Chief works for the mayor. No point in them making a political statement, especially when it can be overruled by the mayor/city council.
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: SCRUBS on February 06, 2019, 08:19:54 PM
Clark Co. Sheriff Atkins posted on facebook that he'll follow the letter of 1639 because it was a vote of the people that passed it. I've supported him in two elections. There won't be a third.

Wonder what his thoughts are on the legislature gutting I-940, after all it was voted in by the people.....
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: Timberstalker on February 06, 2019, 08:23:20 PM
Good!   What’s up in the SE corner?

Neither Benton or Franklin are enforcing.
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: Bofire on February 06, 2019, 08:24:35 PM
I am thinking 1639 is gonna be tied up, and all the enforcement will be tied up for a few years. regardless of statements about enforcing or not. There are lots of questions, agencies are allowed certain leeway about how to enforce new laws, there is a lot to be determined about this law. Many terms need to be "legally" defined. what is enhanced training, what is "secure" storage? The problem I see is the public getting used to passing laws that do nothing.
Carl
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: bigtex on February 06, 2019, 08:25:40 PM
Clark Co. Sheriff Atkins posted on facebook that he'll follow the letter of 1639 because it was a vote of the people that passed it.
The King County Sheriff just said the same thing. She said it's the job of the courts to rule on a law's constitutionality, not the Sheriff.
Title: Re: Counties not enforcing 1639
Post by: Stein on February 06, 2019, 08:48:54 PM
I am thinking 1639 is gonna be tied up, and all the enforcement will be tied up for a few years. regardless of statements about enforcing or not. There are lots of questions, agencies are allowed certain leeway about how to enforce new laws, there is a lot to be determined about this law. Many terms need to be "legally" defined. what is enhanced training, what is "secure" storage? The problem I see is the public getting used to passing laws that do nothing.
Carl

Unfortunately, it is the responsibility of gun owners to comply with the law which means figuring that out.  Either WA will not push these cases outside of adding it on to 200 other charges in egregious events or there will be a ton of cases going up to figure out what is secure and what is not. 

Best case scenario is that SCOTUS picks up a case involving a lock mandate as a challenge to bearing arms.
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