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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: outdooraddict on February 07, 2019, 02:56:12 PM

Title: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: outdooraddict on February 07, 2019, 02:56:12 PM: i thought this direct quote from the article would entice some views.. obviosly we know what side of the fence these "educated" researches stand

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/feb/07/yellowstone-wolves-flounder-in-snow-while-hunting-/
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on February 07, 2019, 05:39:32 PM: Yea elk survived first 3 mins..... what happened next ?
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously.
Post by: idaho guy on February 07, 2019, 05:55:44 PM: disgusting-why don't they film it when the snow ices over and the wolves run on top and the elk breakthrough the crust. Wolves must be pretty effective the yellowstone elk herd went from 19,000 to 3000 and change after the wolves showed up :dunno: THey say there is 7500 last year but most of them are "North" of the park now even though they were not historically counted there :chuckle:
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: dreamunelk on February 07, 2019, 06:00:41 PM: Not research, just a video.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: HUNTIN4SIX on February 07, 2019, 07:18:04 PM: Breaking News! Prey is no longer afraid of their predators. Can't wait till hunting season when those big ole bucks just let me walk up to them. :chuckle:
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: Travis_S on February 07, 2019, 07:26:38 PM: :yeah:
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: Oldguy on February 07, 2019, 07:38:37 PM: If the elk don't fear the wolves, why did they run? What a ridiculous deduction from one sample of snow conditions.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: jackson7 on February 07, 2019, 07:51:06 PM: i don't know, they sure look afraid to me.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: Dan-o on February 07, 2019, 08:05:23 PM: Those 11 wolves must eat a lot of salads.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: yorketransport on February 07, 2019, 08:21:20 PM: The message they're trying to send with the video is definitely wrong, but the video itself is pretty fascinating to watch. It's amazing to see just how well those elk get around in such deep snow. That has to be exhausting and put a ton of stress on the animals though.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: Special T on February 07, 2019, 08:59:29 PM: Quote from: yorketransport on February 07, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
The message they're trying to send with the video is definitely wrong, but the video itself is pretty fascinating to watch. It's amazing to see just how well those elk get around in such deep snow. That has to be exhausting and put a ton of stress on the animals though even.
Yes but it is the roads that are the problem! Lol

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Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: Huntin Hounds on February 08, 2019, 03:56:11 PM: Most ungulates are at their peak physical condition late fall early winter so it's no surprise the elk fended off the wolves testing them. The problem is that those same elk will be tested again and again throughout the winter and come March and April they will be weak. If they want to be realistic they should record another video in March and run them side by side. The outcome would be significantly different.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on February 08, 2019, 04:16:00 PM: Is the link in the article to access the research. It's actually pretty good and continues to beat up the idea of trophic Cascades.
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: ribka on February 08, 2019, 06:12:51 PM: Quote from: WAcoyotehunter on February 08, 2019, 04:16:00 PM
Is the link in the article to access the research. It's actually pretty good and continues to beat up the idea of trophic Cascades.

Why have so many elk herds been pushed down to populated ag areas in Idaho, OR, Montana, Wyoming if the wolves possess no threat?
Title: Re: research indicates that elk don’t fear wolves as much as previously thought.
Post by: nwwanderer on February 09, 2019, 10:15:09 AM: According to USFW research those 11 eat about 220 elk per year. The soon to be released WDFW wolf number will probably exceed 200, or over 4000 elk per year (or the equivalent in what ever they can catch), if they are only catching one in four, everything in their territory is pretty much harassed 24/7 and the cats are forced to move out to take elsewhere. We all see that the elk are winning?