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Title: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: idahohuntr on February 15, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
Great news for public land hunters and outdoor enthusiasts of a bill that passed the US Senate 92-8 this week!
Some tidbits:
-It permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF)
-Establishes 1.3 million acres of new wilderness
-Permanently withdraws land from mining claims in the Methow headwaters and near Yellowstone NP
-Allows bowhunters to bring their weapons through national parks to get to hunting areas
-Mandates all federal lands be open to hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting unless otherwise specified

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/02/12/senate-just-passed-decades-biggest-public-lands-package-heres-whats-it/?utm_term=.412dd8923986

Widely expected to pass the US House - and President Trump has already indicated he will sign it.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Stein on February 15, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
Great news for public land hunters and outdoor enthusiasts of a bill that passed the US Senate 92-8 this week!
Some tidbits:
-It permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF)
-Establishes 1.3 million acres of new wilderness
-Permanently withdraws land from mining claims in the Methow headwaters and near Yellowstone NP
-Allows bowhunters to bring their weapons through national parks to get to hunting areas
-Mandates all federal lands be open to hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting unless otherwise specified

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/02/12/senate-just-passed-decades-biggest-public-lands-package-heres-whats-it/?utm_term=.412dd8923986

Widely expected to pass the US House - and President Trump has already indicated he will sign it.

 :tup:
The LWCF attempted grab was a huge threat.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: stlusn30-06 on February 15, 2019, 02:31:27 PM
Great news for public land hunters and outdoor enthusiasts of a bill that passed the US Senate 92-8 this week!
Some tidbits:
-It permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF)
-Establishes 1.3 million acres of new wilderness
-Permanently withdraws land from mining claims in the Methow headwaters and near Yellowstone NP
-Allows bowhunters to bring their weapons through national parks to get to hunting areas
-Mandates all federal lands be open to hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting unless otherwise specified

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/02/12/senate-just-passed-decades-biggest-public-lands-package-heres-whats-it/?utm_term=.412dd8923986

Widely expected to pass the US House - and President Trump has already indicated he will sign it.
:tup:
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: jmscon on February 17, 2019, 03:09:16 PM
Great news!!
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: timberfaller on February 17, 2019, 03:28:26 PM
"-Permanently withdraws land from mining claims in the Methow headwaters "

 :bash: Well that should do in the Early Winters ditch company and all its share holders!!! :bash: :bash:  Since its "water rights" are based on a 1800's mining claim!!  Plus all the small gold claims through out the upper valley!   

AGAIN tell me ONE government agency that WORKS for the American Citizen!????

So tell me how this is "great news"??

"-Establishes 1.3 million acres of new wilderness"

You all ever seen the condition of "the Wilderness"???? :yike:
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Antlershed on February 17, 2019, 03:29:34 PM
Great news for public land hunters and outdoor enthusiasts of a bill that passed the US Senate 92-8 this week!
Some tidbits:
-It permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF)
-Establishes 1.3 million acres of new wilderness
-Permanently withdraws land from mining claims in the Methow headwaters and near Yellowstone NP
-Allows bowhunters to bring their weapons through national parks to get to hunting areas
-Mandates all federal lands be open to hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting unless otherwise specified

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/02/12/senate-just-passed-decades-biggest-public-lands-package-heres-whats-it/?utm_term=.412dd8923986

Widely expected to pass the US House - and President Trump has already indicated he will sign it.

 :tup:
The LWCF attempted grab was a huge threat.
I just wish more of the funds actually benefitted outdoorsmen/women.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Stein on February 17, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
True statement, but at least it is permanent now.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Antlershed on February 17, 2019, 03:37:21 PM
True statement, but at least it is permanent now.
I am glad it is permanent too. I think a lot of people get fooled by the name though.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Alan K on February 17, 2019, 03:42:34 PM
Hopefully those wilderness acres were carved out of parks so use was expanded rather than restricted!

Why the favoritism for bowhunters to take shortcuts through parks versus other user groups?
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Stein on February 17, 2019, 04:52:56 PM
Hopefully those wilderness acres were carved out of parks so use was expanded rather than restricted!

Why the favoritism for bowhunters to take shortcuts through parks versus other user groups?

I could be wrong, but I think firearms were already allowed by a 2010 law but they didn't think to include bows.  It's a pretty niche thing, I can't imagine too many people do it but glad to have it cleared up.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 17, 2019, 05:12:52 PM
Hopefully those wilderness acres were carved out of parks so use was expanded rather than restricted!

Why the favoritism for bowhunters to take shortcuts through parks versus other user groups?

I could be wrong, but I think firearms were already allowed by a 2010 law but they didn't think to include bows.  It's a pretty niche thing, I can't imagine too many people do it but glad to have it cleared up.
Yeah, it was already legal to cut through with a gun.  Most of the rangers I saw wanted the bolt taken out so they could see you weren't actually hunting while in a nat park.  Still can't move an animal or parts through the park shortcuts, though.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Alan K on February 17, 2019, 05:14:11 PM
Perfect!  :tup:
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: KFhunter on February 17, 2019, 05:56:05 PM
I'll have to look it over closer, some of it I won't like at all I'm sure, but there's nothing to be done about it now, its a done deal.

It looks like there's some good things too, applaud the bows through parks, might set a pathway for carrying guns too.   I'd just carry a pistol for "self defense", then hunt with it once through the park.

It's going to hurt some local business impacted by expanding parks, wilderness and enhanced protections of those areas  :'(  (Methow)

Utah got hit hard  :o
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Stein on February 17, 2019, 06:24:02 PM
Guns have been allowed for nine years.


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Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: KFhunter on February 17, 2019, 07:45:31 PM
Guns have been allowed for nine years.


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I knew they started allowing handguns for self defense, do they allow hunting rifles too now?
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 17, 2019, 08:37:45 PM
Guns have been allowed for nine years.


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I knew they started allowing handguns for self defense, do they allow hunting rifles too now?
yeah, since 2010.  They left up most of their signs, so that throws people off.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Stein on February 17, 2019, 10:11:30 PM
Easy research.

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Congress approved a new law allowing loaded
firearms in national parks starting Feb. 22,
2010. That means people can openly carry legal
handguns, rifles, shotguns and other firearms
and also may carry concealed guns as allowed by
state statute.
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 18, 2019, 05:06:03 AM
https://www.nps.gov/grca/learn/management/upload/Firearms-in-IMRparks2-2010.pdf
Title: Re: Public lands bill passes Senate
Post by: bigtex on February 22, 2019, 06:47:04 PM
Utah got hit hard  :o
Not really.

All of the Utah provisions were put into the bill by Utah's congressional delegation which have been arguing for the provisions for several years. Lands in Utah are always under the threat of National Monuments being declared by Presidents and the Utah congressional delegation viewed this as a good move so that they can choose areas that get protected and who gets to administer the land, instead of the president doing it with the swipe of the pen. Utah also benefited in that some federal land was turned over to the state to manage as a state park as well as SITLA (similar to WA DNR) land.
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