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Title: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on February 20, 2019, 06:33:07 PM
Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone has some suggestions for a lightweight tree stands that can be hiked in or biked in for day use on public land? Any info would be awesome. Thanks, Jason
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Post by: npaull on February 20, 2019, 06:34:32 PM
I have really liked the Lone Wolf treestands. They are pricey though.
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Post by: youngbull on February 20, 2019, 07:46:47 PM
Look at tree saddles
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Post by: Parasite on February 20, 2019, 10:10:19 PM
Climber or hang-on?

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Post by: Special T on February 20, 2019, 10:21:47 PM
Summit Viper. I own 2 and have bought a couple more for friends. I buy them used as many folks try them and then change thier mind. I've purchased for between $150-200 used. Quiet and packable. You have to have a really good spot to use them effectively, and or a specific deer your trying to kill. I've liked using mine on small private property spots.

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Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: Parasite on February 20, 2019, 11:49:50 PM
X-stands are really light. One of my buddies had the climber and loved his. I personally use a Summit, but I don't mind the weight penalty.

If you are going with a hang-on, Lone Wolf Custom Gear is coming out with a new stand and sticks this year. This is a new company, but it's the same person who started Lone Wolf treestands.

Another option is Hunting Beast sticks and treestand. They are out of stock with the sticks at the moment, and the stand has yet to be released. I've got the sticks and they are very nice. Spendy, but nice. I'm not sure I am going to this stand yet as I want to see the final released product. I'm thinking I might go with the LWCG stand though.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 21, 2019, 07:09:38 AM
u looking for a climber or lock on with ladder
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Post by: smithkl42 on February 21, 2019, 12:03:37 PM
I have a Summit Viper, and I've been a little disappointed. It's heavy, awkward and (frankly) kind of painful to carry in and out, at least, over any kind of distance at all. I had assumed I would be able to "run and gun" with it, but it really seems to be the sort of thing that you need to position ahead of the season and remove afterwards. I don't know how I would design a better one, but I'm not sure it fits with the sort of hunting I'm trying to do.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: Parasite on February 21, 2019, 12:34:58 PM
I have a Summit Viper, and I've been a little disappointed. It's heavy, awkward and (frankly) kind of painful to carry in and out, at least, over any kind of distance at all. I had assumed I would be able to "run and gun" with it, but it really seems to be the sort of thing that you need to position ahead of the season and remove afterwards. I don't know how I would design a better one, but I'm not sure it fits with the sort of hunting I'm trying to do.

If you have the steel version, I agree. However, the aluminum one is much lighter. And once you get a system in place, it's quite easy to get in, up, down, and out
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Post by: Machias on February 21, 2019, 01:54:39 PM
Hands down the Lone Wolf Hand Assault climber for me!!  It is sooo light weight, packs in VERY flat, very quiet and very solid.
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on February 21, 2019, 02:09:48 PM
If you're hunting in BT country, then a climber may not be the ticket as you don't normally have a good selection of limbless trees to work the climber up  ;).  I have a Lone Wolf fixed and the sticks to go with it.  It's a solid piece of gear, but...... I have a couple of buddies that have went with the Millenium fixed stands.  They're really nice units... lightweight, comfortable, and... Millenium has a system where you hang a base unit (mount) on multiple trees in multiple sites.  This gives the capability of taking your actual "seat" and packing it to various spots and merely climbing up and dropping it in the existing mount... Kind of a nice feature I think.   
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Post by: Special T on February 21, 2019, 03:07:13 PM
most of the time if your BT hunting you know where you are going to put one up either because its a specific peice of property, or because you have lots of camera shots. I normally scout and or find/limb trees this time of year for my hunting spots.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on February 21, 2019, 06:22:12 PM
Climber or hang-on?
Im not sure just new to the idea of tree stands
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Post by: JasonG on February 21, 2019, 06:27:05 PM
most of the time if your BT hunting you know where you are going to put one up either because its a specific peice of property, or because you have lots of camera shots. I normally scout and or find/limb trees this time of year for my hunting spots.
very true! I'm more worried about leaving it out and have it get stolen. That's why I was hoping for lightweight.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: Special T on February 21, 2019, 06:31:40 PM
most of the time if your BT hunting you know where you are going to put one up either because its a specific peice of property, or because you have lots of camera shots. I normally scout and or find/limb trees this time of year for my hunting spots.
very true! I'm more worried about leaving it out and have it get stolen. That's why I was hoping for lightweight.
I really like the alum summit vipers as I've purchased 4 of them. I have not killed any nice bucks out of them but have a new promising spot..

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Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on February 23, 2019, 04:29:32 PM
The more info I'm getting about this sounds like a fixed stand might be better for black tail.
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Post by: Alan K on February 23, 2019, 05:14:06 PM
I'm a climber guy.  If you have a patch of timber to hunt, it would be a good idea to have multiple trees ready to climb into depending on the conditions (primarily wind). With a fixed/ladder stand your comitted.

One thing to consider on the climbers... If you haven't spent time in a tree stand, having a rail versus open is something to consider. I tried the open one for bowhunting, but I'm not much of a fan of heights and it gave me the willy's at the height I was climbing to elevate my scent. Now I use a railed upper, which can be a problem on a steep angled shot.  I usually hang 20-30 yards from the trail I'm anticipating action on so it isn't an issue.  It's also an attempt to keep scent further away, both while I'm in the stand and also the scent I'm leaving on the ground hiking in.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on February 23, 2019, 05:39:15 PM
I'm a climber guy.  If you have a patch of timber to hunt, it would be a good idea to have multiple trees ready to climb into depending on the conditions (primarily wind). With a fixed/ladder stand your comitted.

One thing to consider on the climbers... If you haven't spent time in a tree stand, having a rail versus open is something to consider. I tried the open one for bowhunting, but I'm not much of a fan of heights and it gave me the willy's at the height I was climbing to elevate my scent. Now I use a railed upper, which can be a problem on a steep angled shot.  I usually hang 20-30 yards from the trail I'm anticipating action on so it isn't an issue.  It's also an attempt to keep scent further away, both while I'm in the stand and also the scent I'm leaving on the ground hiking in.
good point on the climbers. Heights aren't a problem for me . I've been hanging off a 20 story building fixing light fixtures downtown. Ha!
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Post by: snake on February 23, 2019, 05:50:21 PM
Hands down the Lone Wolf Hand Assault climber for me!!  It is sooo light weight, packs in VERY flat, very quiet and very solid.

Agree 100% i have killed deer and elk from mine.  Packing and setting the stand up every morning and evening is easy and takes minutes to setup.
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Post by: JasonG on February 27, 2019, 05:24:27 PM
Im leading towards hang on style tree stands after some advice and research. Anyone know places to get good used ones?
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Post by: Parasite on February 27, 2019, 06:47:12 PM
Craigslist for used stands. Also eBay or local furums. I might sell mine here shortly.
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Post by: Special T on February 28, 2019, 01:39:53 PM
Im leading towards hang on style tree stands after some advice and research. Anyone know places to get good used ones?

Hang ons are great...  for your the back 40 at grandmas, parents, brothers or other places that you will hunt often and on private land. Id only use a hang on if it was really close to my house on public land on an overlooked piece with difficult access.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on March 01, 2019, 05:21:14 AM
Im leading towards hang on style tree stands after some advice and research. Anyone know places to get good used ones?

Hang ons are great...  for your the back 40 at grandmas, parents, brothers or other places that you will hunt often and on private land. Id only use a hang on if it was really close to my house on public land on an overlooked piece with difficult access.
hmmmmm
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Post by: Parasite on March 02, 2019, 02:34:54 PM
You'd be surprised at how quick you can setup a hang-on mobile system these days.


Im leading towards hang on style tree stands after some advice and research. Anyone know places to get good used ones?

Hang ons are great...  for your the back 40 at grandmas, parents, brothers or other places that you will hunt often and on private land. Id only use a hang on if it was really close to my house on public land on an overlooked piece with difficult access.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: Special T on March 05, 2019, 10:37:33 AM
You'd be surprised at how quick you can setup a hang-on mobile system these days.


Im leading towards hang on style tree stands after some advice and research. Anyone know places to get good used ones?

Hang ons are great...  for your the back 40 at grandmas, parents, brothers or other places that you will hunt often and on private land. Id only use a hang on if it was really close to my house on public land on an overlooked piece with difficult access.

my point in saying this is that 1 on small pieces of property being quiet is pretty important. 2 if its family they will likely kkeep an eye on your stuff. 3 it makes for a great short impromptu hunt. if you only have till 10 am, or you can only get there after work and sit for a couple of hours. I will tell you that i never shot the nice blacktail i found from this scenerio because he kept coming in too late, and it was too dark in the timber for me to make a shot not to mention tell if it was the guy i was after.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on March 05, 2019, 08:54:15 PM
I'm still scratching my head on this since I will only be hunting public land and don't know any private land owners to hunt there land.
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Post by: Special T on March 05, 2019, 10:08:54 PM
Since that is the case an aluminum Summit Viper climber is in your future and if you can find one in the off season used your in the money.

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Post by: Parasite on March 06, 2019, 06:49:23 AM
I concur for the most part ... if you are hunting straight trees. If the Viper fits you, then great. For me, I wanted something bigger and went with the Titan if I recall correctly. But as Special T said, you can get some sweet deals in the off season. Keep an eye on craigslist.

I have both a climber setup and hang-on setup for mobile hunting. Each has their own pros and cons.
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Post by: MIKEXRAY on March 08, 2019, 05:57:37 AM
I bought two Summit climbers off of craigslist years ago and love them. Rock solid, never had any slips or close calls. One thing I wanted to point out is one of my Summit stands was called " back packer " after the model . This stand folds completely flat for carrying and is way nicer for transporting.  My other Summit is bulky and catches on stuff in transport.  If purchasing I would find the " back packer " model. I use that one 90 % of the time . Great feature. 
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Post by: duhameister on March 08, 2019, 09:20:45 PM
Lone Wolf, its the lightest, quietest and most reliable climber you can buy.

I grew up with them in Wisconsin and have used them for 20+ years.

The only downside to a climber is you have to saw limbs if its your first time up the tree, which can be noisy.
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Post by: davk on March 09, 2019, 08:40:14 AM
most of the time if your BT hunting you know where you are going to put one up either because its a specific peice of property, or because you have lots of camera shots. I normally scout and or find/limb trees this time of year for my hunting spots.
very true! I'm more worried about leaving it out and have it get stolen. That's why I was hoping for lightweight.
I dont hang my stands where I expect a lot of foot traffic.  I also pull my climbing sticks everytime I leave, unless Im coming back the next day.  You could also lock the stand up with a chain if ur worried about theft.
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Post by: huntnnw on March 11, 2019, 10:15:06 PM
been chasing whitetails for over 30 years and stand hunting and you couldnt pay me to use a climber. Look at aluminum if you are worried about weight.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 12, 2019, 05:03:59 AM
What would you use then if not a climber when away from the road
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Post by: huntnnw on March 12, 2019, 06:45:50 AM
hang on.  I ve packed stands 2 mi before. Smaller stands, good cushion and aluminum ladder steps and small folding saw. I can put a stand up in 15 min
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Post by: Machias on March 13, 2019, 02:53:04 PM
I have 2 Lone Wolf hang ons and the ladder step sections.  Same thing, I can find a spot and be sitting in my stand in probably 15 or 20 minutes and most of the time I will be a lot quieter with my hang ons than my climber....but I must say the lone Wolf Climber is pretty quiet compared to the early climbers I used.  I felt the same way as huntnnw, the early climbers...I would not go up in one for nothing!
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Post by: smithkl42 on March 13, 2019, 03:37:14 PM
I have 2 Lone Wolf hang ons and the ladder step sections.  Same thing, I can find a spot and be sitting in my stand in probably 15 or 20 minutes and most of the time I will be a lot quieter with my hang ons than my climber....but I must say the lone Wolf Climber is pretty quiet compared to the early climbers I used.  I felt the same way as huntnnw, the early climbers...I would not go up in one for nothing!

Even my Summit Viper climber, which is supposedly one of the better ones, is a bit weird to climb in. My 10-year-old son dropped the bottom part while trying it out, and I had to bring out a ladder to help him down: he was only about 8 feet up, and had a harness on, of course, but still a weird feeling. And I've had mine slip on me while climbing: just a bit, but enough that it doesn't exactly leave me with that feeling of "Yeah, I'm 20 feet up, but I'm safe". I don't think I would ever let my kids use it, and if I'm on it, I want somebody to know exactly where I am. Don't wanna end up like this guy.

https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/oregon-hunter-in-critical-condition-after-hanging-upside-down-from-tree-stand-for-two-days
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Post by: Parasite on March 13, 2019, 05:09:01 PM
Smithkl42, get some stablizer straps from third hand Archery. Problem solved.
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Post by: Machias on March 14, 2019, 08:30:58 AM
 :yeah:  Easy fix, no reason for that to ever happen.
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Post by: huntnnw on March 19, 2019, 06:24:21 AM
biggest issues with climbers is the fact you gotta take them down everytime you hunt. Mature animals are very keen on human presence. Alot of my stand sites are scouted long before hand and hung in the summer so they are ready come hunting season to slip in and out when hunting. Another huge issue for me and is not acceptable is with a climber there are no limbs going up which basically leaves you naked sitting in a tree. I look for firs first then pines to tuck myself in bigger the limbs and deeper into the tree u become almost invisible to deer with the heavy shadowing the limbs create . Some of my best stands are in fir trees and I can almost stand up and down with deer 30 yards away thet cannot see me
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Post by: JasonG on March 24, 2019, 09:38:59 AM
biggest issues with climbers is the fact you gotta take them down everytime you hunt. Mature animals are very keen on human presence. Alot of my stand sites are scouted long before hand and hung in the summer so they are ready come hunting season to slip in and out when hunting. Another huge issue for me and is not acceptable is with a climber there are no limbs going up which basically leaves you naked sitting in a tree. I look for firs first then pines to tuck myself in bigger the limbs and deeper into the tree u become almost invisible to deer with the heavy shadowing the limbs create . Some of my best stands are in fir trees and I can almost stand up and down with deer 30 yards away thet cannot see me
This sounds like good advice!
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Post by: bracer40 on March 24, 2019, 10:57:37 AM
I have 2 Lone Wolf hang ons and the ladder step sections.  Same thing, I can find a spot and be sitting in my stand in probably 15 or 20 minutes and most of the time I will be a lot quieter with my hang ons than my climber....but I must say the lone Wolf Climber is pretty quiet compared to the early climbers I used.  I felt the same way as huntnnw, the early climbers...I would not go up in one for nothing!

Hopefully you have the safety rope linking the top and bottom parts of the climber connected? Ideal length of that rope should be about the distance of each “climbing step.” Without it, one could find themselves in serious trouble.

Tip #10: https://www.summitstands.com/summit-journal/10-tree-stand-safety-tips/

Even my Summit Viper climber, which is supposedly one of the better ones, is a bit weird to climb in. My 10-year-old son dropped the bottom part while trying it out, and I had to bring out a ladder to help him down: he was only about 8 feet up, and had a harness on, of course, but still a weird feeling. And I've had mine slip on me while climbing: just a bit, but enough that it doesn't exactly leave me with that feeling of "Yeah, I'm 20 feet up, but I'm safe". I don't think I would ever let my kids use it, and if I'm on it, I want somebody to know exactly where I am. Don't wanna end up like this guy.

https://www.foxnews.com/great-outdoors/oregon-hunter-in-critical-condition-after-hanging-upside-down-from-tree-stand-for-two-days
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Post by: HoofsandWings on March 24, 2019, 11:34:08 AM
I looked at the video. I guess technology is still a ways away where you sit in the stand, push a button and the climber does the rest.
Title: Re: Hike in tree stand for black tail?
Post by: JasonG on June 06, 2019, 08:15:39 PM
Still looking for a hang on stand . The search continues....
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