Post by: WapitiTalk1 on February 21, 2019, 12:39:20 PM
In short, how do you feel you did in 2018 vs. the elk mountains? Are you doing anything differently this year to prepare yourself for the rigors of your upcoming fall elk hunt?
Post by: CoryTDF on February 21, 2019, 01:08:23 PM
Post by: cougforester on February 21, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
Also planning on starting to dehydrate my own food so I eat and feel better while hiking to maintain higher energy during the trip.
Post by: vandeman17 on February 21, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on February 21, 2019, 01:36:06 PM
As much as I convince myself that I love the mountains, I wasn't saw when I could pack the elk out on flat ground.
Post by: 7mmfan on February 21, 2019, 02:21:23 PM
Post by: X-Force on February 21, 2019, 02:51:21 PM
My elk hunt was 4.8, 4, 12.5, 25.1 and 22.3 miles on a 5 day trip. If i started the trip knowing i had 69 miles to cover in 5 days I probably would have stayed home but once in the thick of things being able to focus on small tasks helped me accomplish everything i was looking for in the hunt.
Memories are way better then the suck in the moment.
I noticed having BCAA's and a good multi vitamin made me feel better each day, less muscle fatigue, more energy.
Post by: jstone on February 21, 2019, 02:56:05 PM
Post by: X-Force on February 21, 2019, 03:14:30 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on February 21, 2019, 03:30:40 PM
I will focus a little more on lower body flexibility this year. Otherwise stick with a regiment of crossfit style workouts, weight training, and hiking.
My diet in the backcountry saw good strides as I cut the vast majority of mountain house, and instead focused on dehydrated foods, and also cut most "bars" and processed sugars in favor of nuts and fats. Cut major weight, ( pack and body ) But energy levels and strength were well maintained. I will add more protein in the future as muscle breakdown does occur over that long of time.
Post by: vandeman17 on February 21, 2019, 03:47:51 PM
Between 5 g and 15 g depending on the workload. Im a fat kid without a lot of workout knowledge so someone on here should be able to say how much is desirable.
honestly, BCAA have been proven by multiple studies to have zero benefit to a person who eats even a remotely well balanced diet. If it were me, and I do it during early archery, I would get something that replaces electrolytes. I like it for that reason and also the flavor is a nice change from just water all the time.
Post by: WSU on February 21, 2019, 03:59:34 PM
Post by: theleo on February 21, 2019, 04:04:42 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 21, 2019, 04:21:45 PM
Cardio and muscles were fine. My knees hurt bad and didn’t stop hurting completely for a few months. Not sure what do about that.
I give my dog Glucosamine and Chondroitin jerky chews for her joints.... :tup:
Actually I have the same issue you have. After MCL surgeries on both knees, I can go weeks with no problem, then one or the other will tweek just a bit (usually while hiking uphill) and just be a constant aggravation for days. Not enough to make me want to quit, but enough to make you think, "is another couple of miles worth the hurt on the way back" :dunno:
Post by: X-Force on February 21, 2019, 06:17:47 PM
Between 5 g and 15 g depending on the workload. Im a fat kid without a lot of workout knowledge so someone on here should be able to say how much is desirable.
honestly, BCAA have been proven by multiple studies to have zero benefit to a person who eats even a remotely well balanced diet. If it were me, and I do it during early archery, I would get something that replaces electrolytes. I like it for that reason and also the flavor is a nice change from just water all the time.
You are probably correct. I’m not a nutritionist or a health nut... I know for me going from base line to 10+ miles a day and eating freeze dried meals/ backpacking food I feel better with BCAAs and my muscle fatigue and sourness has dropped considerably.
Post by: Stein on February 21, 2019, 06:23:39 PM
Cardio and muscles were fine. My knees hurt bad and didn’t stop hurting completely for a few months. Not sure what do about that.
There are supplements that could really help you. I think these are the best, but wow, they are proud of them.
https://originmaine.com/origin-usa/nutrition/jocko/health/jocko-joint-warfare/
When I ramp my training up again here soon, I'm going to try to replicate that as close as I can if I run into joint issues which is a high probability.
Post by: Stein on February 21, 2019, 06:31:05 PM
Between 5 g and 15 g depending on the workload. Im a fat kid without a lot of workout knowledge so someone on here should be able to say how much is desirable.
honestly, BCAA have been proven by multiple studies to have zero benefit to a person who eats even a remotely well balanced diet. If it were me, and I do it during early archery, I would get something that replaces electrolytes. I like it for that reason and also the flavor is a nice change from just water all the time.
Vande is right, if you get adequate protein you will get your BCAAs from that. If you don't get adequate protein or during more extreme physical events, it can help with muscle damage and soreness. I usually only took them when I was doing some really crazy stuff and I would mix them with whey, creatine and beta alanine and pound that during and especially after really long stuff, like 12 hours or more. The last two were more for performance than health and I wouldn't bother in a hunting scenario.
It certainly isn't going to hurt and you can get enough from beef or chicken, but sometimes its easier to pound a shake than a steak.
Post by: slavenoid on February 21, 2019, 06:49:32 PM
Post by: chester on February 21, 2019, 07:35:11 PM
Joints and breathing were better then ever.
Post by: elkchaser54 on February 21, 2019, 08:51:11 PM
Post by: Stein on February 21, 2019, 09:04:28 PM
Bring on the uphill but the downhill kills my feet and my right knee. Hopefully they get some relief if I shed some pounds. I have always been a little heavy but stay real active. That might be catching up to me and my lower body.
Have you tried using poles? They make a huge difference downhill for me.
Post by: slavenoid on February 21, 2019, 11:10:45 PM
No. I need to try that.Bring on the uphill but the downhill kills my feet and my right knee. Hopefully they get some relief if I shed some pounds. I have always been a little heavy but stay real active. That might be catching up to me and my lower body.
Have you tried using poles? They make a huge difference downhill for me.
Post by: Humptulips on February 21, 2019, 11:31:36 PM
Post by: BetoBow on February 22, 2019, 05:11:18 AM
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Post by: theleo on February 22, 2019, 07:30:47 AM
Our season took us to Idaho for our the first time. We hiked in 8 miles into the wilderness and got into a herd in the opposite ridge. We glassed them for a day, but ultimately decided it was to far if we managed to bring one down and pulled out. I battle with myself everyday if that was the right choice. I am pushing myself everyday to eat healthy and go to gym 5 days a week.Unless you had enough guys to do it in one trip, you made the rite call.
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Post by: birddogdad on February 22, 2019, 08:44:59 AM
Cardio and muscles were fine. My knees hurt bad and didn’t stop hurting completely for a few months. Not sure what do about that.
There are supplements that could really help you. I think these are the best, but wow, they are proud of them.
https://originmaine.com/origin-usa/nutrition/jocko/health/jocko-joint-warfare/
When I ramp my training up again here soon, I'm going to try to replicate that as close as I can if I run into joint issues which is a high probability.
i would wonder if the patella strap runners use would help you? may be worth trying? i have a bad ankle (past surgery) and downhill all day kills me... I'm going with a very stiff boot this year and see if that helps
Post by: Stein on February 22, 2019, 09:22:20 AM
Cardio and muscles were fine. My knees hurt bad and didn’t stop hurting completely for a few months. Not sure what do about that.
There are supplements that could really help you. I think these are the best, but wow, they are proud of them.
https://originmaine.com/origin-usa/nutrition/jocko/health/jocko-joint-warfare/
When I ramp my training up again here soon, I'm going to try to replicate that as close as I can if I run into joint issues which is a high probability.
i would wonder if the patella strap runners use would help you? may be worth trying? i have a bad ankle (past surgery) and downhill all day kills me... I'm going with a very stiff boot this year and see if that helps
No, for me it's joint pain from overuse. It isn't a big deal and if I stay on the supplements it is fine. It isn't an injury or anything like that.
Post by: BetoBow on February 22, 2019, 10:09:54 AM
It was just me in my brother in law and being an archery hunt temps did not dip too lowOur season took us to Idaho for our the first time. We hiked in 8 miles into the wilderness and got into a herd in the opposite ridge. We glassed them for a day, but ultimately decided it was to far if we managed to bring one down and pulled out. I battle with myself everyday if that was the right choice. I am pushing myself everyday to eat healthy and go to gym 5 days a week.Unless you had enough guys to do it in one trip, you made the rite call.
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Post by: Stein on February 22, 2019, 10:32:07 AM
It was just me in my brother in law and being an archery hunt temps did not dip too lowOur season took us to Idaho for our the first time. We hiked in 8 miles into the wilderness and got into a herd in the opposite ridge. We glassed them for a day, but ultimately decided it was to far if we managed to bring one down and pulled out. I battle with myself everyday if that was the right choice. I am pushing myself everyday to eat healthy and go to gym 5 days a week.Unless you had enough guys to do it in one trip, you made the rite call.
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The temp is what would worry me. 16+ miles roundtrip isn't a picnic by any stretch, but it is only a matter of time and sweat to get it all out. If it was too warm for the meat to stay for 2-3 days or a dense bear area, I would have done the same thing.
Post by: HUNT JR on February 23, 2019, 06:44:57 AM
Post by: fisheral87 on February 23, 2019, 08:00:11 AM
Didn’t see any elk.
Going to increase my interval training days and hike with weight days. Maybe work up to two a days closer to season.
Al
Post by: Mudman on February 23, 2019, 08:39:22 AM
Post by: huntnnw on February 24, 2019, 10:17:08 PM
Post by: coachcw on February 25, 2019, 12:09:23 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 25, 2019, 08:20:52 PM
The pack out wasn’t too much fun tho.
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 25, 2019, 09:15:21 PM
Post by: fisheral87 on February 26, 2019, 02:50:39 PM
Post by: gaddy on February 26, 2019, 04:18:53 PM
Enjoy it while you can , eventually the mountain is gonna win.
Post by: KFhunter on February 26, 2019, 04:48:31 PM
Only way I can keep up is get him good and drunk the night before :chuckle:
Post by: Scho0558 on February 28, 2019, 10:02:51 AM
Post by: Alchase on February 28, 2019, 10:25:08 AM
Only way I can keep up is get him good and drunk the night before :chuckle:
:bdid:
I tried that this year, did not workout the way I intended, probably because I usually hunt alone
:chuckle:
Post by: elkrack on February 28, 2019, 10:30:56 AM
Post by: nitroelk on March 12, 2019, 11:30:01 AM
We had never heard so many bugles in one day as that day, it should have been epic (especially had we had a bull tag)and who knows what that next day would have brought.
It took more than a month to heal and my leg was black and blue all the way to my heal. Didn't miss any work but would come home and ice and elevate leg every day to keep the swelling down.
Going to be a little more careful walking them logs in the future for sure. I was really lucky I didn't hurt my knee and it was just muscle and not the joint itself.
Post by: Tbob on March 25, 2019, 12:03:31 AM
Post by: HoofsandWings on March 25, 2019, 08:42:46 AM