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Other Hunting => Coyote, Small Game, Varmints => Topic started by: Machias on March 11, 2019, 10:34:50 AM

Title: Coyote Prices
Post by: Machias on March 11, 2019, 10:34:50 AM: You guys that are shooting yotes and leaving them are leaving a fair amount of money laying out there. Top coyote from the fur sale down in Boise this wwekend was $188. Most yotes taken care of average around $90+. Doesn't take much effot to properly skin, flesh and dry a yote for the fur sale. They had 1500 coyotes sold at the fur sale.
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Post by: ELKBURGER on March 11, 2019, 12:06:21 PM: :yike: :yike:
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Post by: lewy on March 11, 2019, 12:18:56 PM: Besides prime-ness and size is there anything specifically that the buyers are looking for in a coyote that brings more money?
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Post by: MtnMuley on March 11, 2019, 01:10:49 PM: Remember, these prices weren't rubbed >March 10 coyotes either. :twocents:
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Post by: nwwanderer on March 11, 2019, 01:34:46 PM: My best one ever, a long time ago, was large and very light colored. $300+
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Post by: coyotehunter on March 11, 2019, 01:41:59 PM: Any coyote I shoot from Late October to Mid February I'll put up for the fur market. Learn how to case skin them, flesh them and stretch them. And for you guys that like to blow them up, learn how to sew them too!
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Post by: Oh Mah on March 11, 2019, 02:17:09 PM: When skinning for fur market do you remove the paws or leave them?
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Post by: coyotehunter on March 11, 2019, 04:07:02 PM: When skinning for the fur market, there are no feet or lower jaw. I usually skin them out in the field and the roll up the skin and throw them in the freezer and at a later date flesh and stretch them.
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Post by: coyotehunter on March 11, 2019, 04:10:44 PM: If you can find a copy of Blaine Eddy's "Hunting and Skinning for Profit" it goes into detail how to put up coyotes. One of the most informative DVD's I've ever seen!
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Post by: Oh Mah on March 11, 2019, 04:28:25 PM: :tup: :yeah: Thanks for the tip.
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Post by: Tracker0721 on March 11, 2019, 04:38:38 PM: I left paws on my bobcat but I don’t think I will. The top bobcat went for 1600 I think I saw and the guy said all his cats sold for over 1100 and none that I saw had paws. Heard that got more for the taxidermy option. Any coyote late October to Valentine’s Day gets saved. Any bobcat Jan 1 to the end of season gets taken. Now if I can get the hang of trapping them I could maybe get more then a super lucky odd one that comes in.
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Post by: Iveexcaped3 on March 11, 2019, 04:43:37 PM: so those of you that fur trade why do you only save the yotes from October to February? whats wrong with year round? I've wanted to learn this trade for a hobby but no idea where to start.
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Post by: coyotehunter on March 11, 2019, 06:06:18 PM: Furs are a fashion item and the prices are based pretty much on that. Stetnson still uses beavers to shear for felt but the rest are for trim and garments. The market only wants prime and full pelts. After February most animals will lose their winter coat and coyotes rub a bunch during the mating season. Before November you usually have summer coats. Only Prime pelts have value, for coyotes that usually December-January But you can find some good coats as early as late October and as late as mid February. Hope this helps!
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Post by: KFhunter on March 11, 2019, 06:55:59 PM: Those Canada goose jackets are driving the yote market, uses coyote fur on the trim.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2019/theft-of-canada-goose-jackets-on-the-rise/
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Post by: Humptulips on March 11, 2019, 07:36:53 PM: Quote from: Iveexcaped3 on March 11, 2019, 04:43:37 PM
so those of you that fur trade why do you only save the yotes from October to February? whats wrong with year round? I've wanted to learn this trade for a hobby but no idea where to start.
The fur trade wants good quality fur. Coyotes start priming up Oct. 15 to Nov. 1 in WA. The farther south you are the later they prime. Anything earlier will grade flat and the price will tumble to sub $20 probably. On the other end they start to break starting about mid January. The later you get them the more chance of rub and a rubbed coyote even slightly rubbed is not going to bring much. In W WA we have a lot go bad in December because of matting, wet weather and all that. Again not worth much at best. November and December are where it is at with E WA extending through January. Always the exception to the rule though so look them over even into March.
The fur market wants the feet off both cats and coyotes. The claws can damage the fur when drumming

Also there is a big difference where you are in the state. Don't expect a lot of top lot coyotes out of W WA or even out of the basin on the east side. They still have value, just don't think everyone is worth a $100 bill.
Cats the same. It is an exceptional cat that approaches a $1000. Even east side cats you would do well to get 1/3rd of that. West side cats often go better for taxidermy. They don't grade good because of their color.
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Post by: Iveexcaped3 on March 11, 2019, 08:04:08 PM: Quote from: Humptulips on March 11, 2019, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: Iveexcaped3 on March 11, 2019, 04:43:37 PM
so those of you that fur trade why do you only save the yotes from October to February? whats wrong with year round? I've wanted to learn this trade for a hobby but no idea where to start.
The fur trade wants good quality fur. Coyotes start priming up Oct. 15 to Nov. 1 in WA. The farther south you are the later they prime. Anything earlier will grade flat and the price will tumble to sub $20 probably. On the other end they start to break starting about mid January. The later you get them the more chance of rub and a rubbed coyote even slightly rubbed is not going to bring much. In W WA we have a lot go bad in December because of matting, wet weather and all that. Again not worth much at best. November and December are where it is at with E WA extending through January. Always the exception to the rule though so look them over even into March.
The fur market wants the feet off both cats and coyotes. The claws can damage the fur when drumming

Also there is a big difference where you are in the state. Don't expect a lot of top lot coyotes out of W WA or even out of the basin on the east side. They still have value, just don't think everyone is worth a $100 bill.
Cats the same. It is an exceptional cat that approaches a $1000. Even east side cats you would do well to get 1/3rd of that. West side cats often go better for taxidermy. They don't grade good because of their color.
what do you guys mean by rub? like rubbing against bushes and trees? does it make them less valuable because in a way it combs the animal and thins the fur? how do they decide on color consistency? sorry for all the questions, this is interesting to me
Title: Re: Coyote Prices
Post by: Humptulips on March 11, 2019, 08:18:11 PM: A rub is where the fur is wearing out. A spot where some of the fur has actually been pulled out or rubbed off. Can start as a mat from rain or maybe some pitch or the start of mange. Or it is just late in the season and they have literally just rubbed up against too many things through the winter.

Color is graded from lighter to darker with lighter being better. Also length of fur and coarseness.
On cats they are looking for bright, clear, spotty belly. The wider the belly the more value. Most cats will not have a bright white belly the full length. Often it will appear darker from red hairs intruding usually behind the front legs. This called bridged. Not good! Most W WA cats will grade casty as the belly will not be bright. Also not good!
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Post by: Tracker0721 on March 12, 2019, 11:07:29 AM: This one would have been pretty good had it not been shot with a 300 win mag. Hopefully it stitches up nice.
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Post by: Machias on March 12, 2019, 11:42:48 AM: Bruce is right on the money as always. I didn't want to give the impression you're all leaving $188 laying in the dirt, but you are leaving some good money. Most of us would not leave $50 to $75+ laying on thre ground and walk away. It's not hard to learn to put up fur and it is VERY satisifying work. Just a small investment in tools and time and you are good to go.
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Post by: coyotehunter on March 13, 2019, 11:59:01 AM: This is from Fur Harvesters website. They just had the auction a couple of days ago. Lynx Cat is their terminology for bobcat. They have another auction at the end of May where I will have my furs in. I will post the auction result and my actual fur results then.
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Post by: ELKBURGER on March 14, 2019, 07:02:20 AM: Do you need to have a fur bearers license to sell at auction?
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Post by: KFhunter on March 14, 2019, 10:55:58 AM: No.
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Post by: Thermal Predator Control on April 03, 2019, 06:47:09 AM: Last season I killed 35 in December and January. I sold most of them whole for $20-30. Paid for my diesel at least. 2019 season I plan on killing at least 50 and am skinning them and sending them to auction.
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Post by: ELKBURGER on April 03, 2019, 07:18:23 AM: Quote from: Baranouskas on April 03, 2019, 06:47:09 AM
Last season I killed 35 in December and January. I sold most of them whole for $20-30. Paid for my diesel at least. 2019 season I plan on killing at least 50 and am skinning them and sending them to auction.
You got $20-$30 each? Do you freeze them whole?
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Post by: Thermal Predator Control on April 03, 2019, 09:14:44 AM: When I go out I usually kill between 3 an 8 coyots. My fur buyer is 25 minutes from my home so I just bring them to him right away
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Post by: ELKBURGER on April 03, 2019, 09:16:31 AM: Quote from: Baranouskas on April 03, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
When I go out I usually kill between 3 an 8 coyots. My fur buyer is 25 minutes from my home so I just bring them to him right away
:yike: :yike: :yike: :tup: :tup: :tup: Sounds like a great operation you have!!!
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Post by: Machias on April 03, 2019, 09:23:47 AM: Nice Elkburger and Baranouskas!
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Post by: Thermal Predator Control on April 03, 2019, 09:26:52 AM: Quote from: ELKBURGER on April 03, 2019, 09:16:31 AM
Quote from: Baranouskas on April 03, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
When I go out I usually kill between 3 an 8 coyots. My fur buyer is 25 minutes from my home so I just bring them to him right away
:yike: :yike: :yike: :tup: :tup: :tup: Sounds like a great operation you have!!!
Ya, but I wanna try an make more $ this season, it’s gonna be a lot of work!
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Post by: ELKBURGER on April 03, 2019, 09:37:31 AM: Quote from: Baranouskas on April 03, 2019, 09:26:52 AM
Quote from: ELKBURGER on April 03, 2019, 09:16:31 AM
Quote from: Baranouskas on April 03, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
When I go out I usually kill between 3 an 8 coyots. My fur buyer is 25 minutes from my home so I just bring them to him right away
:yike: :yike: :yike: :tup: :tup: :tup: Sounds like a great operation you have!!!
Ya, but I wanna try an make more $ this season, it’s gonna be a lot of work!
Don't try and fool me.... Its a labor of love!!!! I'm sure you'll do great!