Post by: jasnt on March 14, 2019, 01:11:19 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 14, 2019, 01:17:28 PM
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 14, 2019, 01:21:56 PM
Post by: jasnt on March 14, 2019, 01:29:00 PM
We do plan on selling chicken manure at some point. Organic and gmo free
Post by: Machias on March 14, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Post by: huntingfool7 on March 14, 2019, 03:08:28 PM
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 14, 2019, 03:28:00 PM
Which breed are you going with?
:yeah: Looks like Rhode Islands? Maybe some ameraucanas? We got 12 RIRs last weekend. We will have 20-30 this summer.... small beans compared to your operation.
I would like to hear about and see pics your setup for 300+ birds. Indoor, outdoor, both, free range?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 14, 2019, 03:42:00 PM
Post by: jasnt on March 14, 2019, 04:34:25 PM
$3 dozen
They are in door out door. Legally speaking they are free range but that’s do to the run. They do get let out from time to time but I move the run when they get it cleaned up. I’ll continue to update this thread as I go. I got a lot to do in the next few months as I’m currently only set up for 30-40 hens.
Post by: Timberstalker on March 14, 2019, 06:32:54 PM
Post by: nwwanderer on March 15, 2019, 06:40:20 AM
Post by: jasnt on March 15, 2019, 07:27:13 AM
Neat!! Feed will be 80% or so of your cost, choose wisely. You might consider moving your water a little to keep splashes off of lamps. Neighbor lost a barn and some livestock recently from a heat lamp fire.water is on the cold side now. Pic was taken just after putting chicks in. No water or feed was in the feeders when pic was taken.
Feed is a big cost but my current setup is more than paying for its self.
Worst case scenario is I’ll have a bunch of laying hens for sale in 6 months
Post by: PolarBear on March 15, 2019, 07:46:17 AM
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 15, 2019, 09:52:52 AM
Neat!! Feed will be 80% or so of your cost, choose wisely. You might consider moving your water a little to keep splashes off of lamps. Neighbor lost a barn and some livestock recently from a heat lamp fire.water is on the cold side now. Pic was taken just after putting chicks in. No water or feed was in the feeders when pic was taken.
Feed is a big cost but my current setup is more than paying for its self.
Worst case scenario is I’ll have a bunch of laying hens for sale in 6 months
Do you get your feed in bulk from a local supplier?
Post by: Whitpirate on March 15, 2019, 10:14:25 AM
https://www.theredbridgefarm.com/
Post by: KFhunter on March 15, 2019, 10:19:19 AM
Look at Red Bridge in Kettle for a decent production non-GMO layer. I bought 3 tons of his hog grower mix and 2 of the chicken and was impressed with gain/etc... but trucking to the wetside is just too much to make it sustainable. I'd need to haul 6-8 tons at a time to make it worth the hauling. Your mileage is much closer.
https://www.theredbridgefarm.com/
my gawd they're expensive, I've tried and tried to reach some kind of deal with the owner on bulk but they just won't come down enough. I end up getting my feed at woods hay and grain in Sandpoint ID. Really wanted to support local but couldn't justify the added cost.
Another thing that pissed me off is at the fair they had samples, tried to negotiate for 2 tons matching the sample I had in my hand which was the premium hog grower and got a quote that was reasonable for 2 tons, pursued the quote and they backed off the premium and tried to sell me the economy grower for my quoted price which doesn't have the canola oil so the feed is dryer and slightly less palatable and less gain, well heck the price for the economy grower was like 30% higher than woods, so with my added time/fuel I still came out ahead with woods. I woulda bought the premium grower for the quoted price which was something like 30% higher than woods grower but figured the added gain would help make some of that up plus time/fuel/equipment costs...
figured they tried to do a bait -n-switch with me, irritated me.
Post by: Whitpirate on March 15, 2019, 11:04:23 AM
Post by: jasnt on March 15, 2019, 12:19:45 PM
Post by: bigdave on March 15, 2019, 01:13:51 PM
What is your plan for cleaning the eggs from so many hens?.....for me this is the worst part of egg production and the most tedious, especially this time of year. My kids are really happy to see mud season go!
Post by: jasnt on March 15, 2019, 01:21:22 PM
My feed is just ground. For the hogs I’m soaking my feed, much less waste!
Post by: bigdave on March 15, 2019, 01:35:24 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 15, 2019, 10:21:13 PM
I’m buying my feed few miles away at kanitsu feeds. Yes I can get 1000lb and 2000 lb totes. The more I buy from him the better the price is getting.
It's from woods hay and grain, re branded. I did some price comparisons from them at Deer Park and Woods at Sandpoint, ID. Ended up going all the way to Sandpoint, but Deer Park is a bit of a drive too.
Post by: KFhunter on March 15, 2019, 10:31:15 PM
What was he quoting you per # on premium?
I don't remember now :dunno:
Post by: jasnt on March 16, 2019, 07:16:49 AM
Post by: Sandberm on March 16, 2019, 09:22:46 AM
We buy our "farm fresh" eggs from some people down the road. They are good, taste just like eggs from the store, a bit more watery I would say but...They have a hint of fish smell/ flavor. Just a hint. I thought something was impregnated in the cast iron pan I use but when I cook store bought eggs I do not get this hint of fish flavor.
I did some research via Google and found this. https://articles.extension.org/pages/68432/common-feed-ingredients-in-poultry-diets (https://articles.extension.org/pages/68432/common-feed-ingredients-in-poultry-diets) Fish meal as a protein source in chicken feed.
"Fish Meal
There are two basic types of fish meal. The first type is derived from fish, such as salmon and tuna, caught specifically for human consumption. The second type is derived from fish, such as herring, menhaden, and pollack, caught specifically for the production of fish meal. In the United States the fish most often used for fish meal is menhaden."
Post by: jasnt on March 16, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
Post by: Sandberm on March 16, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
The fishy taste IS GOOD. That means it has lots of Omega 3 fatty stuff. Article says they sell omega 3 eggs at the market for more money.
https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/do-your-eggs-taste-fishy-its-the-curse-of-the-omegas/ (https://www.theartofdoingstuff.com/do-your-eggs-taste-fishy-its-the-curse-of-the-omegas/)
"I’m sure you’ve seen them in the grocery store. Eggs labelled as “Omega-3” eggs. They’re bursting with goodness and health and nutrition. They’re easy to identify from the other eggs. They’re the ones that look like Dr. Oz if you stare closely enough at them. Plus they cost about $1 more per carton. Plus they have “Omega-3” printed on the carton and sometimes even on the eggs.
Plus they taste like fish. Sometimes.
Have you ever noticed that? You eat an egg (either store bought or from your own chickens) and there’s a lingering, subtle note of trout. This happened to me the other day. I cracked open an egg from one of my chickens and it tasted more like I cracked it out of the spleen of a salmon than an eggshell. It’s happened to me before so I knew it wasn’t my imagination. I couldn’t talk myself out of the fish taste this time..."
Post by: jasnt on March 16, 2019, 10:19:42 AM
This is what I’m feeding
FEED FOR LAYING HENS WITH OMEGA 3
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS:
Crude Protein (min) 17.0%
Lysine (min) 0.50%
Methionine (min) 0.25%
Crude Fat (min) 1.50%
Crude Fiber (max) 4.60%
Calcium (Ca) (min) 3.0%
Calcium (Ca) (max) 4.0%
Phosphorus (P) (min) 0.60%
INGREDIENTS:
Peas, Barley, Wheat, Camelina Meal, Sunflower Meal, Canola Meal, "Poultry Mineral Pre-Mix -less than 2.5% (Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Ground Limestone, Salt, Choline Chloride, dl-Methionine, Mineral Oil, Ferrous Sulfate, Manga-nese Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Niacin Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, d-Calcium Panthothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Menadione Nicotinamide Bisulfite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite, Dried Aspergillus oryzae Fermentation Extract, Dried Trichoderma reesei Fermentation Extract, Dried Aspergillus niger Fer-mentation Extract and Organic Canola Oil)."
Post by: nwwanderer on March 16, 2019, 12:10:52 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 16, 2019, 01:48:48 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 16, 2019, 02:51:02 PM
hoping they're big enough eagles don't carry em off, want to run them in a 3ac pasture with some cows in it. Meat + Eggs.
Post by: jasnt on March 16, 2019, 03:00:17 PM
anyone raise Jersey Giants?my uncle is breeding jersey giants. Prob won’t have chicks till latter in the spring. How many were you thinking
hoping they're big enough eagles don't carry em off, want to run them in a 3ac pasture with some cows in it. Meat + Eggs.
Post by: KFhunter on March 16, 2019, 03:09:54 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on March 17, 2019, 01:43:32 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 17, 2019, 10:57:27 AM
Thinking about making lids though. Then when I need to refill the hog feeder I can lift the IBC with the tractor and pour directly into the feeder with the slide gate.
I wonder how many IBC totes I need to hold 1 ton super sack worth of hog feed? 1.5 bins? I'll do 4 IBC totes and buy 2 tons at a time to start.
9" slide gate plenty big
https://www.runnings.com/smv-industries-grain-gate-9-x-9-99.html
https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/g--617-smv-industries-grain-gate.html
(https://d2ul0w83gls0j4.cloudfront.net/products/04/1200/043405.jpg)
mount to the side opposite of the spigot.
(https://www.farmshow.com/images/resize.php?h=1017&img=/images/articles/39/6/34755_l.jpg)
Post by: jasnt on March 17, 2019, 11:25:21 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 17, 2019, 12:34:11 PM
(https://www.repurposedmaterialsinc.com/275%20gal%20Auger%203.jpg)
this guy just leaves the auger in the hole, so he's made that green bar mount to hold the auger in place so corn doesn't trickle out.
(https://www.repurposedmaterialsinc.com/275%20gal%20Auger%201.jpg)
Post by: nwwanderer on March 17, 2019, 05:13:52 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 17, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
now I'm thinking about a little 4" auger to fill the IBC totes so I don't have to cut the tops out, I'll see if I can get by with a big funnel and bucket this year though.
Post by: jackelope on March 17, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on March 17, 2019, 09:50:42 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 17, 2019, 09:58:48 PM
I got two hog feeders now to keep full and tired of lugging around 55 gallon barrels.
Post by: nwwanderer on March 19, 2019, 06:51:38 AM
Post by: jasnt on March 27, 2019, 05:56:51 PM
Post by: KFhunter on March 27, 2019, 06:22:43 PM
I wonder if they can be trained to go through a culvert? It would be nice to have the chicken house on one side of the driveway, but pastured on the other side.
Post by: jasnt on March 27, 2019, 08:58:58 PM
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2019, 05:25:40 AM
Post by: Jason on September 24, 2019, 05:44:56 AM
We got a total of 155 chicks. Lost 5 total. Now getting 10-14 dozen eggs a day. Production has more than met demand and I’m getting more customers each week. Went with mobile electric fence and that worked well this summer. Currently working on enlargement of the winter coop.Holy cow that's a lot of eggs. I didn't know you were a chicken farmer in your everyday life. I guess that's how you support your bullet habit.
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2019, 10:10:12 AM
i raise beef and pork as well along with full time job doing hardscape and running equipment for land scape construction companyWe got a total of 155 chicks. Lost 5 total. Now getting 10-14 dozen eggs a day. Production has more than met demand and I’m getting more customers each week. Went with mobile electric fence and that worked well this summer. Currently working on enlargement of the winter coop.Holy cow that's a lot of eggs. I didn't know you were a chicken farmer in your everyday life. I guess that's how you support your bullet habit.
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2019, 10:14:33 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on September 24, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2019, 03:36:14 PM
That would be interesting, a little wide for the squeeze chute, kind of pointy for a rope and big enough for a hard catch!!! Looks like a little simmental influence with the frame and color on those critters, nice!!they are all pure bred polled hereford, and all goggled.
Thank you
Post by: PolarBear on September 25, 2019, 03:23:12 PM
I raise registered pure bred Polled Herefords as well. All are halter broke and are shown at various fairs including state fair.That would be interesting, a little wide for the squeeze chute, kind of pointy for a rope and big enough for a hard catch!!! Looks like a little simmental influence with the frame and color on those critters, nice!!they are all pure bred polled hereford, and all goggled.
Thank you
Post by: jasnt on September 25, 2019, 06:53:07 PM
mine are not halter broke but they are friendlier than most folks dogsI raise registered pure bred Polled Herefords as well. All are halter broke and are shown at various fairs including state fair.That would be interesting, a little wide for the squeeze chute, kind of pointy for a rope and big enough for a hard catch!!! Looks like a little simmental influence with the frame and color on those critters, nice!!they are all pure bred polled hereford, and all goggled.
Thank you
Post by: jackelope on September 25, 2019, 07:42:01 PM
Were you at Puyallup?I raise registered pure bred Polled Herefords as well. All are halter broke and are shown at various fairs including state fair.That would be interesting, a little wide for the squeeze chute, kind of pointy for a rope and big enough for a hard catch!!! Looks like a little simmental influence with the frame and color on those critters, nice!!they are all pure bred polled hereford, and all goggled.
Thank you
Post by: PolarBear on September 26, 2019, 12:25:54 AM
Yes with Rainier FFA. Next year my daughters will be showing open classWere you at Puyallup?I raise registered pure bred Polled Herefords as well. All are halter broke and are shown at various fairs including state fair.That would be interesting, a little wide for the squeeze chute, kind of pointy for a rope and big enough for a hard catch!!! Looks like a little simmental influence with the frame and color on those critters, nice!!they are all pure bred polled hereford, and all goggled.
Thank you
Post by: jasnt on September 28, 2019, 03:22:37 PM
Post by: Machias on September 30, 2019, 01:54:24 PM
Post by: jasnt on September 30, 2019, 05:26:44 PM
What kind? I'm getting some Idaho Pasture Pigs soon.red wattle and old spot/hereford cross
Post by: Machias on October 01, 2019, 08:28:51 AM
Post by: jasnt on October 01, 2019, 10:04:15 AM