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I'm smoking a brisket Sunday so I'm looking for something new to try, whats your favorite rub or recipe? Typically I do a light coat of Kosher or sea salt 24 hours before and season about 12 hours before, then inject beef broth just before throwing it on the smoker. It turns out pretty good, but I'm looking for something amazing.
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I have really enjoyed this one.
https://www.traegergrills.com/recipes/beef/beef-brisket
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This thread is useless until KC chimes in.
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I’ve never noticed a huge difference in rubs, wrapping in foil, etc. I just use any bbq rub and smoke slow to a temp of 205. Then wrap in foil, then a towel, and put it in a closed cooler for an hour give or take. Remove and slice across the grain.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/millionaire-brisket-with-coffee-and-beer-mop-sauce-recipe-1915952.amp
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I’ve never noticed a huge difference in rubs, wrapping in foil, etc. I just use any bbq rub and smoke slow to a temp of 205. Then wrap in foil, then a towel, and put it in a closed cooler for an hour give or take. Remove and slice across the grain.
Similar experience. I've tried different rubs, different pellets, very little difference. There has to be some mouth watering outa this world recipe's.. KC?
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Boss - Have you tried that recipe before?
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Boss - Have you tried that recipe before?
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Yep, only one I use. Friend of mine is a BBQ pitmaster and that’s al he uses.😉
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Salt and pepper only. Anything else and you've ruined it.
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Boss - Have you tried that recipe before?
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Yep, only one I use. Friend of mine is a BBQ pitmaster and that’s al he uses.😉
Okay then, I'll give it a try.
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Salt and pepper only. Anything else and you've ruined it.
A friend of mine says the same thing, I've never tried it though.
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I'm going to throw a brisket in the Bradley Smoker tomorrow. What's the difference between Kosher salt and Pickling salt? I have plenty of pickling salt.
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I am just a salt and pepper guy as well. I do like a little garlic. trick for me is to get some of the salt pepper flavor deep into the meat. So I do inject a little, and toss in the frig overnight. The let the smoke do its magic for the next 16 hours.
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My favorite so far was one we did with a Coca Cola and coffee mop every couple hours
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My favorite so far was one we did with a Coca Cola and coffee mop every couple hours
I saw a recipe like that. Looked really good. Maybe try it on my next one.
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salt n pepper cook at 325 till internal temp hits 165 170 wrap in paper till it probs like warm butter. Pull from smoker let's rest for a hour or two.
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http://www.texasbbqrub.com/no2.htm
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Does anybody use Johnny's Seasoning Salt? Will pickling and canning salt work in place of Kosher? :dunno:
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A little update.
I tried the recipe Boss posted, it was good I will definitely use that again. I did inject beef broth into it prior to putting on the smoker same as I've done before but this brisket was definitely more tender and a bit juicier.
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It was a first time for me with a brisket. Pre heated the Bradley for 230 degrees sprinkled Johnny's on both sides. Put the brisket in then checked it after a couple hours and noticed it was drying out on top so I brushed some avocado oil on it then went and had a couple beers with some friends. Checked it for internal temp and it was 160 so I wrapped it in foil and added beef broth and let it go for a couple more hours. Recipe called for getting it to 204 degrees but it never even got close to that even after setting to a higher temp. Finally took it out after about 3 hours I guess and let it rest for about 15 minutes. Opened it up and sliced thin slices off and chowed down. Oh man was it ever tender! I'll be trying that one again! :tup:
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Yeah when you hit 160 the "stall" kicks in and takes a few hours to get above 175ish. Not sure why that is, but usually takes a few hours for the internal temp to get going good again.
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I've tried a recipe like Boss posted awhile ago. It was good, but I thought the spice overpowered the beef flavor. The last couple I have done has been salt, pepper, and garlic powder (SPG) in equal parts. Smoked at 225 until it hit the stall then wrapped and back in. I run the temp up to 275 until I reach an IT of 205. Wrap in towels place in a cooler for a couple hours, slice and serve. Everyone who has tried my various versions of brisket agreed the the SPG seasoning was the best. I have never injected or mopped my brisket either.
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It seems like it takes 3-5 hours to push through the stall whether its a brisket or pork buts for me. Sometimes I wrap it in foil , sometimes not. This time I didn't wrap it until it hit 190* as I wanted a good bark to it. My total smoke time was 19.5 hrs, only let it rest 30 minutes as I couldn't wait to try it. This was hands down the most tender and moist brisket I have done, . I gave some to my buddy for lunch, he said it was way better than his local BBQ shop. So I give a BIG Thank You to BOSS for sharing the recipe.
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It seems like it takes 3-5 hours to push through the stall whether its a brisket or pork buts for me. Sometimes I wrap it in foil , sometimes not. This time I didn't wrap it until it hit 190* as I wanted a good bark to it. My total smoke time was 19.5 hrs, only let it rest 30 minutes as I couldn't wait to try it. This was hands down the most tender and moist brisket I have done, . I gave some to my buddy for lunch, he said it was way better than his local BBQ shop. So I give a BIG Thank You to BOSS for sharing the recipe.
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Finishing touches is a good bbq sauce, crispy fried onions, and a good roll to put it all together.
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I'm thinking next time I do one I'll throw it in the Bradley the night before around 9 or 10, that way it'll be done around dinner time the next day. :tup: Had leftover brisket French dips for dinner t'nite. :drool:
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It seems like it takes 3-5 hours to push through the stall whether its a brisket or pork buts for me. Sometimes I wrap it in foil , sometimes not. This time I didn't wrap it until it hit 190* as I wanted a good bark to it. My total smoke time was 19.5 hrs, only let it rest 30 minutes as I couldn't wait to try it. This was hands down the most tender and moist brisket I have done, . I gave some to my buddy for lunch, he said it was way better than his local BBQ shop. So I give a BIG Thank You to BOSS for sharing the recipe.
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Glad it worked out good for you.👍
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This thread is useless until KC chimes in.
:chuckle: i usually only smoke mine so all i have to offer is rubs and temps/times :tup:
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I'm going to throw a brisket in the Bradley Smoker tomorrow. What's the difference between Kosher salt and Pickling salt? I have plenty of pickling salt.
nothing, same thing. both non-iodized
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I personally trim the fat cap to 1/4" thick, use home made rub, fat cap UP, and run 220 degrees til it hits the 160 stall then I bump it up to 235/240 til it gets past it then i drop it back down, and when it hits 190 i eat it.
Remember, your fat and collagen doesn't start to melt into the meat til your internal temp hits 180 so pulling it early might get you super rare but also gets you tougher :tup: and for god sakes cut it against the grain unless you like chewing
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Mustard rub with any seasonings you like. Smoked for 16-20 hours till internal temp is 195-200 then wrap in tinfoil and hide in a cooler wrapped in blankets for 2-4 hours.....comes out of the cooler at 170 ish. I really like basting mine with a dark beer like Black Butte Porter or Irish Death. it turns out absolutely mouth watering amazing. I usually start my trager on the smoke setting for the first 4 hours and then bump temps accordingly so I have a slow controlled cook.
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how does it possibly take you guys 16-20 to reach 195? i always hit it by 10-12 hours no matter the size. seems like that long would just dry it out. and your rub isnt just for spices and flavor, your rub is supposed to create your bark to seal the juice in, what you use have a huge impact on the dryness of the meat, mainly your percentage of sugar.
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I have a question for you guys that say you "smoke" for 10 to 12 hours. Are continuing to add smoke the whole time or cooking it in the smoker after the meat reaches an internal temp of 140? Every book I've looked at regarding "smoking" says the meat won't absorb more smoke after 140.
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For me “smoke” refers to temp and not the resulting smoke flavor from the extra hours.
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I did the smoke with the Bradley pucks for 4hrs, I figured that was enough smoke. After it got to the 160 temp I used the double foil and added a cup of beef broth and put it back in. I bumped the temp up to around 280 I think to get the heat thru the foil but I couldn't wait any longer after about 3 hours, we had to eat! I cut it in thin slices, the meat was a light brown all the way thru, no medium rare or anything like that. Turned out delicious and tender. Next night was left over French Dips and used the beef broth for the au jus, oh man the smoke flavor was awesome! I did notice the meat getting dried out on top after the first couple hours so I brushed some avocado oil on it. All I was using for the rub was Johnny's sprinkled on it and that was it. I would say the total time was probably close to 8-10 hours. The brisket was around 2.5lbs. Looking forward to trying it again.
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I did the smoke with the Bradley pucks for 4hrs, I figured that was enough smoke. After it got to the 160 temp I used the double foil and added a cup of beef broth and put it back in. I bumped the temp up to around 280 I think to get the heat thru the foil but I couldn't wait any longer after about 3 hours, we had to eat! I cut it in thin slices, the meat was a light brown all the way thru, no medium rare or anything like that. Turned out delicious and tender. Next night was left over French Dips and used the beef broth for the au jus, oh man the smoke flavor was awesome! I did notice the meat getting dried out on top after the first couple hours so I brushed some avocado oil on it. All I was using for the rub was Johnny's sprinkled on it and that was it. I would say the total time was probably close to 8-10 hours. The brisket was around 2.5lbs. Looking forward to trying it again.
Sounds good. Next time let me know so I can round up the boys. Drinks on me. You are the official smoker now.
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how does it possibly take you guys 16-20 to reach 195? i always hit it by 10-12 hours no matter the size. seems like that long would just dry it out. and your rub isnt just for spices and flavor, your rub is supposed to create your bark to seal the juice in, what you use have a huge impact on the dryness of the meat, mainly your percentage of sugar.
I have never had a dry brisket. I smoke at 120 ish for 4 hours before I turn the temp up to start cooking. I slowly increase my temp based on the internal temp of the meat (example; meat is 110 degrees, I turn the temp on the smokerl to 160 till I hit 140 ish....then turn the smoker to 200 till I hit 180 and so on. Usually finish with the smoker at 225 for an internal temp of 195-200. I like it to warm / cook the meat evenly....if that makes sense. Not sure if it really makes a differnce, but it works great. Only down side Is I have to start the cook 24 hours before I want to eat. I agree with the seasoning making the bark......that is why I use a mustard rub with my dry seasoning, I lay the rub on thick.
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how does it possibly take you guys 16-20 to reach 195? i always hit it by 10-12 hours no matter the size. seems like that long would just dry it out. and your rub isnt just for spices and flavor, your rub is supposed to create your bark to seal the juice in, what you use have a huge impact on the dryness of the meat, mainly your percentage of sugar.
I have never had a dry brisket. I smoke at 120 ish for 4 hours before I turn the temp up to start cooking. I slowly increase my temp based on the internal temp of the meat (example; meat is 110 degrees, I turn the temp on the smokerl to 160 till I hit 140 ish....then turn the smoker to 200 till I hit 180 and so on. Usually finish with the smoker at 225 for an internal temp of 195-200. I like it to warm / cook the meat evenly....if that makes sense. Not sure if it really makes a differnce, but it works great. Only down side Is I have to start the cook 24 hours before I want to eat. I agree with the seasoning making the bark......that is why I use a mustard rub with my dry seasoning, I lay the rub on thick.
i dont understand why though. muscle fiber , collagen and tissue dont break down until a IT of 180 so what exactly do you gain by extending the cook time so long at such a low temp?
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I have a question for you guys that say you "smoke" for 10 to 12 hours. Are continuing to add smoke the whole time or cooking it in the smoker after the meat reaches an internal temp of 140? Every book I've looked at regarding "smoking" says the meat won't absorb more smoke after 140.
generally if you use smoke/chips for more then a few hrs you get a bitter taste
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Where do y'all get your brisket from? I looked at FM the other day and they only had 1, for 70$. Is that normal?
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I was surprised at the price tag also. 2.5lbs was $25 I think. Central Market in Poulsbo. Maybe Costco has them. :dunno:
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That's way over priced or you guys are remembering wrong.
I'm buying them around $3 a pound locally at cash n carry.
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It was a large piece so it could have been 3$ per pound.
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usually rub down and wrap in plastic the a day before, then let return to room temp while pre heating the smoker. Then once at 160-165 I wrap in foil and let cook to 190-195. Pull and let rest in cooler wrapped in a towel for an hour or so.
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I haven't had a "dry" brisket yet either, I had one turn out like flank steak once but generally its really juicy. I use this web site as a good source https://amazingribs.com/tested-recipes/beef-and-bison-recipes/smoked-brisket-texas-style for reference.
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Well I did a brisket last night on the traeger. Always heard about how long it takes to cook so I started it last night at 11:30 shooting for it to be ready this afternoon. Set an alarm periodically to check on it. At 3 a.m. it was already 170 was hoping to foil it up at 160. Once I got it foiled up with beef broth and back on set my next alarm for 5:30. At 5:30 it was at 207. Wanted it pulled at 204. Been resting since 5:30. Looks like brisket for breakfast instead of dinner. Oh well. I just hope I didn't ruin it. It looks and smells great. It was 15 pounds before trimming. I had it at 225 the whole time.
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Does anyone do classic 15 hour smoked brisket on a traegar?
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Turned out delicious!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190406/d725efdfd9488d4088ad8b65a73f10ef.jpg)
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It usually takes 10-12 hours for me in the Traeger. Cash n carry has good deals at times. Definitely worth a look for brisket, pork should and other primal cuts.
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At 225 I usually figure 1 hour per pound of meat. So I'm surprised yours cooked that quickly.
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Last brisket I did was a 12 pounder and took 18 hrs to cook at 225. I put them on around 8PM and dont bother to check them until the following morning. By then its time to wrap, spritz and let it finish.
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I usually get my brisket, pork buts, ribs from Cash and Carry or Costco.
I have no idea why there is such a variance in cook times. I usually confirm my grill temp with a second probe, they are typically within 5* of each other.
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At 225 I usually figure 1 hour per pound of meat. So I'm surprised yours cooked that quickly.
I was really surprised to. The only thing I can figure is maybe it was a thinner one. It was really long but not too thick.
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I have a question for you guys that say you "smoke" for 10 to 12 hours. Are continuing to add smoke the whole time or cooking it in the smoker after the meat reaches an internal temp of 140? Every book I've looked at regarding "smoking" says the meat won't absorb more smoke after 140.
generally if you use smoke/chips for more then a few hrs you get a bitter taste
Not true , if you burn a dirty fire you can get a bitter taste. keep the smoker rolling thin blue smoke and it doesn't matter how long you burn wood.