Post by: timberghost72 on April 08, 2019, 06:59:41 PM
So I am looking at either the 1 & 2 series JD's and the BX and B series on the Kubota's. Really like the JD2025. So some questions I have are:
- Do dealers move on price at all aside from factory promotions? Can I negotiate?
- The JD dealer told me that insurance is mandatory on financed tractors even if financed through my bank and not JD. Is this true?
- Is it worth driving to Oregon to save on taxes and maybe price of tractor?
- The quote JD sent me has a charge of adding ballast to the rear tires ($285). Says they do this to all tractors and not an option to op-out. Is this true? I'm not opposed to that but I have a counter weight I currently use.
- Does anyone have experience buying a Kubota from Scholten's Equipment in Mount Vernon or Lynden. They have some tractor trailer packages that seem too good.
Any other things that I should think about?
Thank you.
Tony
Post by: Gobble Doc on April 08, 2019, 07:03:26 PM
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Post by: jrebel on April 08, 2019, 07:16:12 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 08, 2019, 08:36:55 PM
I don’t see any reason to have it if your running a hitch ballast and it works for you, I like it since I have a hoe attachment on full time.
Tell them you’re going somewhere else if they won’t leave it out.
Post by: jrebel on April 08, 2019, 08:59:48 PM
Post by: Gobble Doc on April 08, 2019, 09:00:53 PM
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Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 08, 2019, 09:27:01 PM
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Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 08, 2019, 09:40:10 PM
- The JD dealer told me that insurance is mandatory on financed tractors even if financed through my bank and not JD. Is this true?
Your bank would know better than a dealer. Seems like it could be optional depending on the cost and the assests of the borrower.
Post by: jrebel on April 08, 2019, 09:42:56 PM
- The JD dealer told me that insurance is mandatory on financed tractors even if financed through my bank and not JD. Is this true?
Your bank would know better than a dealer. Seems like it could be optional depending on the cost and the assests of the borrower.
I would imagine any finaned tractor would need insurance to secure the loan. Most tractors will fall under the homeowners policy which should be sufficient. We have an umbrella policy so the tractor is covered.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 08, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 08, 2019, 09:48:30 PM
Resubmit my answer with a reasonable financial institution instead
Post by: baldopepper on April 09, 2019, 06:36:34 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 09, 2019, 08:12:29 AM
Post by: Zardoz on April 09, 2019, 11:31:20 AM
Post by: YellowDog on April 09, 2019, 02:13:59 PM
Post by: BD1 on April 09, 2019, 02:45:44 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on April 09, 2019, 02:47:04 PM
Post by: andersonjk4 on April 09, 2019, 02:59:14 PM
I think it is about time to upgrade my tractor (I have a 40 year old Kubota) and was hoping for advice and tips from those who've purchased a new tractor. Looking at the new prices though I may have to buy used but for now I'm looking at new. I have been researching and going to the dealers for a few months now and really like the JD's over the Kubota's but I know the Kubota's are solid machines so I am still on the fence. About 75/25 in favor of the JD's.
So I am looking at either the 1 & 2 series JD's and the BX and B series on the Kubota's. Really like the JD2025. So some questions I have are:
- Do dealers move on price at all aside from factory promotions? Can I negotiate?
- The JD dealer told me that insurance is mandatory on financed tractors even if financed through my bank and not JD. Is this true?
- Is it worth driving to Oregon to save on taxes and maybe price of tractor?
- The quote JD sent me has a charge of adding ballast to the rear tires ($285). Says they do this to all tractors and not an option to op-out. Is this true? I'm not opposed to that but I have a counter weight I currently use.
- Does anyone have experience buying a Kubota from Scholten's Equipment in Mount Vernon or Lynden. They have some tractor trailer packages that seem too good.
Any other things that I should think about?
Thank you.
Tony
I just bought my first tractor last month, a John Deere 2038R. I went with JD mostly because I spent a couple summers working for a dealer and still have a best friend that works there. But also, I feel the premium price you pay for a JD over the other foreign brands does buy you some nicer features. Especially the new JD 1 and 2 series. Watch some Youtube vidoes comparing JD's vs the competitors.
Dealers can apply additional discounts. Whether they will or not will most likely depend on the salesman and dealer policy. As with most commissioned sales discounts cut into their commission, so I guess it will depend on your negotiating skills.
If you finance through JD financial you are required to have insurance. You can get your own insurance or get insurance through JD. I went with the insurance through JD. My premium is $469 for the entire life of the loan. Its too cheap not to go through them.
I got the bio ballast (beet juice) in my tires. I didn't ask if it was an option. They just recommended and I figured it was a fairly cheap way to add weight down low.
Post by: Gobble Doc on April 09, 2019, 03:04:13 PM
I bought a Kubota 3301 L Series. I run a Land Pride brush cutter...but it mows like a mower too. Bought a grapple (Titan) off Amazon (PRIME delivery to my house)....it is amazing but had the dealer put on an additional hydro piped to the front with thumb button. As many will say, go bigger than you think or as much as you can afford. I shopped for a long time. Talking with some in Oregon...there is a chance...be it small, that you could get zapped on tax. I may be totally wrong but didn't risk it. Super happy with my purchase. Side note* Kubota is compatible with all Skidsteer attachments which I like and also have friends who run skidsteer stuff that I can use seamlessly. If you have questions PM me...you will wonder why you didn't buy one sooner :chuckle:How is that grapple? I have always figured I could really use one on the brush.
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Post by: BD1 on April 09, 2019, 04:57:41 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on April 09, 2019, 05:01:37 PM
Post by: jrebel on April 09, 2019, 05:23:20 PM
So if a guy bought some acreage (7) and is going to need a tractor for mowing, plowing snow, moving dirt, landscaping and general hobby farm use and is considering doing his own excavation for a house and shop, what is the minimum class/series that will get the job done. Lot is pretty level, not rocky(was hay field). Im thinking since I will need a tractor eventually anyway is it possible buy a compact tractor to do my own excavation to offset the cost by not hiring the job done.
Everyone I spoke to about this exact topic told me to buy a minimum 35 horse power tractor. Anything smaller and you are extremely limited on pto driven attatchents. You loose hp to the PTO....for example, my Massey is a 36.2 HP but only delivers 27.5 HP to the PTO. If you go to big it won't travel well unless you have a huge trailer. As seen the the pictures, mine fits in a 16' dump trailer......but wouldn't fit in a 14 unless I took off the backhoe. Lots to consider.....but a fun purchase and a necessity if you have property.
Post by: timberghost72 on April 09, 2019, 07:21:17 PM
Post by: pup0025 on April 09, 2019, 09:38:46 PM
Post by: BD1 on April 09, 2019, 09:46:42 PM
I'll bite... where did you buy the grapple and how much? Does it use the tilt for closing or do you need 3 valves?I put in a total sperate hydro for closing the grapple. I will post a pic of it tomorrow. I think the grapple it's self was from Titan via Amazon. It is everything I need but I am a city boy...now country with 10 acres.So I probably don't know any better. But in my opinion it is a tank with the attachment. I think it was around $400 but will check. It has proven worth much more to me.
Post by: BD1 on April 09, 2019, 10:14:50 PM
Sorry...but not sorry to have it
BD1
Post by: Romulus1297 on April 09, 2019, 10:19:19 PM
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Post by: timberghost72 on April 10, 2019, 02:45:53 PM
Hey T clear your inbox, its full
Should be good now.
Post by: woodswalker on April 10, 2019, 03:18:15 PM
Post by: Grit dog on April 11, 2019, 06:46:46 AM
So if a guy bought some acreage (7) and is going to need a tractor for mowing, plowing snow, moving dirt, landscaping and general hobby farm use and is considering doing his own excavation for a house and shop, what is the minimum class/series that will get the job done. Lot is pretty level, not rocky(was hay field). Im thinking since I will need a tractor eventually anyway is it possible buy a compact tractor to do my own excavation to offset the cost by not hiring the job done.
Personally, I would get a tractor for home use on the wet side unless you only planned on using it for less than half the year. Tracks will get you where you need to go. Who wants to wait till summer to do years work just because the ground is wet?
But if you're mowing with it then different story.
For digging the foundation, I'd save the misery and rent an excavator for a day or 2 and be done with the dig.
For mowing, 7ac isn't that much. Tractor do the job if you're just mowing hay field. We have 5 AC and I first used a tow behind deck behing the 4 wheeler. Great bang for the buck. Cost me $300 for 4 years of mowing.
Sold it and bought a good old zero turn. 60" ZT mows about 4.5 AC in 3 hours.
Jist tossing out ideas.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 11, 2019, 06:58:45 AM
Content with my fully mechanical 1983 950 w/ ~770 hours.