Post by: tritt007 on May 19, 2019, 05:41:49 PM
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on May 19, 2019, 08:53:04 PM
Post by: JakeLand on May 19, 2019, 09:23:42 PM
Jake
Post by: JWEBB on May 19, 2019, 10:09:29 PM
Post by: KFhunter on May 19, 2019, 10:32:08 PM
I also don't think anything bigger than a 250 is really wanted, when you load it up with weight you don't need an already heavy bike trying to pack game out around trees, sticks, brush logs etc
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You'll want to haul the bike in the pickup with all your hunting stuff be it deer bait, salt licks, trail cams tent etc etc so
So you don't really need a big displacement bike for the highways anyways, you can't pack a whole hunting camp on it plus game back home.
riding is one thing, hunting is something else when it comes to bikes.
I'm a KTM guy, I've got orange blood, but I wouldn't buy a KTM for hunting, it's too fast, too powerful, and the subframes aren't designed to carry a lot of weight and that power and performance means more work and more scary when loaded up with stuff.
You need a mule, not a racehorse.
The tried/true bike for hunting and scouting is probably the TW200, but it is under powered for climbing stuff and ungainly and the carb sucks if you go low elevation to high elevation.
The tires are cool in the softer stuff but usually by fall things are hard and rocky. It's a great bike, but 50mph is pushing it.
TW200 might be too much mule..
XT 250 is a great compromise bike, it has EFI and very low seat height and will do over 70 mph but that's flogging it, 55-62 mph you could do all day long.
sips fuel and will carry a big load.
CFR250L is heavy and taller, bad combination for hauling big loads in tight spots. I also don't like the water cooling, too easy to get a stick in the hose or radiator.
You'll want a bomb proof dirt simple bike.
I would ignore more comparisons you'll find on youtube or websites, what you're asking for (hunting bike) there isn't a lot of good feedback, what you'll find is kids comparing data sheets and what kind of bike their friends have, and how theirs is better/worse than the other xyz brand.
like I said riding is riding, but hunting applications calls for a whole different beast.
Post by: JWEBB on May 19, 2019, 10:36:13 PM
for hunting applications, scouting and packing out game, you want a low seat height. You'll want to put them feet down to glass, hop logs, traverse around a sketchy spots etc.
I also don't think anything bigger than a 250 is really wanted, when you load it up with weight you don't need an already heavy bike trying to pack game out around trees, sticks, brush logs etc
.
You'll want to haul the bike in the pickup with all your hunting stuff be it deer bait, salt licks, trail cams tent etc etc so
So you don't really need a big displacement bike for the highways anyways, you can't pack a whole hunting camp on it plus game back home.
riding is one thing, hunting is something else when it comes to bikes.
I'm a KTM guy, I've got orange blood, but I wouldn't buy a KTM for hunting, it's too fast, too powerful, and the subframes aren't designed to carry a lot of weight and that power and performance means more work and more scary when loaded up with stuff.
You need a mule, not a racehorse.
The tried/true bike for hunting and scouting is probably the TW200, but it is under powered for climbing stuff and ungainly and the carb sucks if you go low elevation to high elevation.
The tires are cool in the softer stuff but usually by fall things are hard and rocky. It's a great bike, but 50mph is pushing it.
TW200 might be too much mule..
XT 250 is a great compromise bike, it has EFI and very low seat height and will do over 70 mph but that's flogging it, 55-62 mph you could do all day long.
sips fuel and will carry a big load.
CFR250L is heavy and taller, bad combination for hauling big loads in tight spots. I also don't like the water cooling, too easy to get a stick in the hose or radiator.
I would ignore more comparisons you'll find on youtube or websites, what you're asking for (hunting bike) there isn't a lot of good feedback, what you'll find is kids comparing data sheets and what kind of bike their friends have, and how theirs is better/worse than the other xyz brand.
like I said riding is riding, but hunting applications calls for a whole different beast.
I totally agree with you but I don’t think he’s asking about a hunting bike. From his description it sounds like he wants a bike to mess around with in the Gifford :dunno: Only thing he mentions about hunting is a “maybe”
Post by: KFhunter on May 19, 2019, 10:45:59 PM
a CRF250L in its proper niche would be a fine bike I'm sure.
Post by: JWEBB on May 19, 2019, 10:47:44 PM
maybe I went too heavy to the hunting side of it :chuckle:
a CRF250L in its proper niche would be a fine bike I'm sure.
But your spot on for hunting!!!
Post by: JakeLand on May 20, 2019, 04:50:22 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on May 20, 2019, 07:39:52 AM
That said they are good machines on a reliable platform and would certainly get the job done in my opinion. Also if cost is a factor and you NEED the street legal option, be prepared for a significant bump in price. I assume you will be trailering the bike to the forest? Not sure what the rules are in GP my bikes have been plated, but I'm not sure if it's a requirement
Post by: tritt007 on May 20, 2019, 11:26:35 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on May 20, 2019, 11:49:44 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 20, 2019, 12:08:15 PM
Cool link for motorcycles for sale around the Puget Sound.
Also a great rider resource.
http://www.soundrider.com/Dealers/HDB/
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 20, 2019, 12:57:04 PM
Post by: KFhunter on May 20, 2019, 02:56:33 PM
Well the exact thing I am looking for is a dual sport that I can ride on the
highway for short distances but also
ride all the main roads in the national forests but also
ride all the ohv trails in the national forests and yes the bike will
probably be hunted off of . The only reason I was leaning towards the Honda is because you can get such a great deal on a brand new bike . And
height is a big factor , I'm only 5'7 on a good day haha , I used to ride an old
xr250l was just too tall and i loved that bike , it was a beat to crap 1986 but it did awesome ,
Yamaha XT 250 EFI all. day. long.
Post by: tritt007 on May 20, 2019, 07:55:34 PM
Post by: Mudman on May 20, 2019, 08:13:16 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 20, 2019, 08:41:18 PM
Post by: Fastass350 on May 20, 2019, 08:42:34 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on May 20, 2019, 08:54:02 PM
The the wr or crf would likely be a fine fit for ya. I have a couple friends who are vertically challenged and one has a crf, and one has an xt. They are not crack riders by any means, but they get around great and with a lot of confidence. The WR and CRF are very comparable IMO. I have rode a bunch in GP in the past and never had a issue with carbs.
Post by: Griiz on May 20, 2019, 09:31:12 PM
The wr250 seems to have more power than the Cr , the drz out does them both as far as power and is only about 30# heavier , does anybody have any experience riding the Gifford pinchot or any other national Forest ohv trails ? And if so have you had any issues at elevation with a carburator and have you had any issues with air cooled bikes going up all those steep switchbacks vs water cooled ? I could always go buy a 90's xr250 again lol . I have just never rode any of those really long switchback higher altitude type stuff .
Those low performance and super reliable four strokes will handle switchbacks and mountain trails with ease. If your having any issues just lower the gearing and they will crawl around. If the carbs are running rich at elevation swapping out a jet is easy.
Post by: JakeLand on May 21, 2019, 03:39:00 AM
Post by: Moonlite hunter on May 21, 2019, 04:04:29 AM
Post by: KFhunter on May 21, 2019, 10:07:58 AM
I think a 250 with a rekluse clutch would work great for what you are looking for.
Yes it would. I would have one but they aren't cheap.
Really any size bike could use one for hunting and glassing, they aren't just a crutch for poor clutch control but super useful for many situations.
Post by: tritt007 on May 22, 2019, 05:54:34 PM
Post by: mossback91 on May 22, 2019, 06:48:44 PM
Post by: mossback91 on May 22, 2019, 06:51:19 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on May 22, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
The wr250 seems to have more power than the Cr , the drz out does them both as far as power and is only about 30# heavier , does anybody have any experience riding the Gifford pinchot or any other national Forest ohv trails ? And if so have you had any issues at elevation with a carburator and have you had any issues with air cooled bikes going up all those steep switchbacks vs water cooled ? I could always go buy a 90's xr250 again lol . I have just never rode any of those really long switchback higher altitude type stuff . Back when I was a young man, I used to ride up there quite a bit. I had 2 different XR 200 bikes, never had an issue with either at elevation. In between those 2 bikes I had Yamaha 175 2 stroke. That thing would ping and pop like crazy, and suck a lot of gas at elevation. You won't regret a solid 4 stoke, even if it's air cooled. Those XRs were bulletproof. Wish I still had one of them...