Post by: wolfbait on May 23, 2019, 11:41:43 AM
https://www.postregister.com/farmandranch/local/wolves-in-the-west-unforeseen-impacts-caused-by-wolves-in/article_0abfd62d-eef9-567f-84fe-4b650f3c0447.html?fbclid=IwAR2RiNBcynuWlzkktGZdO--ElwSzgJOhdO_IWo_XD8lkci7GeD4Uxxj-zks
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Post by: kodiak10 on June 05, 2019, 08:16:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEufIke4XE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEufIke4XE)
Video on the situation. Lots of scientific literature is cited as well as interviews from ranchers in the rural Idaho communities. Long but worth a watch!
Post by: millerwheeler on June 06, 2019, 08:53:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEufIke4XE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdEufIke4XE)
Video on the situation. Lots of scientific literature is cited as well as interviews from ranchers in the rural Idaho communities. Long but worth a watch!
Thanks.was worth the watch
Post by: KFhunter on June 06, 2019, 09:40:25 PM
"No one knew that cattle stressed by wolves will attack herding dogs..."
We discussed this a while back in a thread about PSTD for cattle
I've heard that on some ranches where cattle dogs are used, the cows have grown up with the dogs since they were calves. Both animals fine with each other. Then after a herd experiences a wolf attack, the cows are bezerko if the rancher brings the dog. The cows become dangerous to themselves, people, horses and dogs. They get wolf flashbacks.
My Brittany doesn't look much like a wolf, last fall running her through cattle country it wasn't too bad for the cows freaking out. This was wedge cattle too from the diamond M so you know they've experienced wolves, and they were on range in wolf country. I was keeping a close eye on how they reacted to the dog.
They definatly kept an eye on the dog but didn't go running off or freaking out, if the dog got too close they'd put their heads down and tail starts going up but I kept the dog away from them for the most part. Now if I were running a malamute or shepard, something that looks more like a wolf that might be a different story. I think the cows know the difference pretty well, if they ran from just any k9 the coyotes would have them worked up all the time.
It also helps that my britt just ignores the cows too, bring out an ankle biter dog and it wouldn't go too well.
I'm definitely careful around cattle that have experienced wolves and keep my dog well away, I don't want to stress cattle or get my dog hurt.