Post by: elksnout on July 13, 2019, 07:49:58 PM
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Post by: 92xj on July 13, 2019, 07:59:05 PM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on July 13, 2019, 08:15:21 PM
Post by: elksnout on July 13, 2019, 08:32:54 PM
:yeah: that seems a bit light for that arrow BH combo. Is that scale weight finished?
No. Just going by specs for arrows and adding 125 gr tips. Haven't weighed on a scale.
You are missing about 35 grains on components in your weight. You are closer to 450 instead of 410. If you're shooting good, don't change a thing and go hunt
Were am I missing weight? Is 450 good to go?
Elksnout
Post by: cougforester on July 13, 2019, 08:42:43 PM
:yeah: that seems a bit light for that arrow BH combo. Is that scale weight finished?
No. Just going by specs for arrows and adding 125 gr tips. Haven't weighed on a scale.You are missing about 35 grains on components in your weight. You are closer to 450 instead of 410. If you're shooting good, don't change a thing and go hunt
Were am I missing weight? Is 450 good to go?
Elksnout
Are you adding vanes and nock?
Post by: 92xj on July 13, 2019, 08:48:42 PM
:yeah: that seems a bit light for that arrow BH combo. Is that scale weight finished?
No. Just going by specs for arrows and adding 125 gr tips. Haven't weighed on a scale.You are missing about 35 grains on components in your weight. You are closer to 450 instead of 410. If you're shooting good, don't change a thing and go hunt
Were am I missing weight? Is 450 good to go?
Elksnout
Axis 340s are 9.5 gr an inch.
9.5x30=285
285+125=410
410+nock*insert+vanes+potential wrap =final weight.
450 is fine for elk, hit them in the correct spot.
I'm running 560 grain arrows with 72 pounds this year.
Last year I killed elk at 498gr.
Year before was around 460gr
Post by: Milkman on July 13, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
Post by: elksnout on July 13, 2019, 09:48:36 PM
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Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on July 13, 2019, 09:57:43 PM
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If you can get a SHARP broadhead into the lungs/heart area consistently, you will kill it.
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When I first started bowhunting you bought a matched set of cedar arrows and practiced.
You put a good solid broadhead on it and made sure it was razor sharp.
Then all you had to worry about was accuracy.
Now it seems you need a computer program to figure out what to use...
I am a fan of the K.I.S.S. philosophy, keep it simple, stupid.
The animals have not gotten any harder to kill, they still bleed and need to breathe.
As long as you can put it in the right spot, it will do what its supposed to do.
Post by: KFhunter on July 13, 2019, 10:16:01 PM
50gr brass insert
100gr broadheads
532.4 GN arrow weight ready to shoot, weighed on a certified scale
FOC is 12.6%
Post by: Jimmy33 on July 13, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on July 13, 2019, 10:46:55 PM
I use Easton FMJ 300 cut at 30” also, but I tip it with a 125 grain fixed blade. 536 grains...works like a charm.
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you got some extra weight somewhere, lighted nocks?
Post by: Crunchy on July 13, 2019, 11:25:56 PM
The internet has ruined archery as a hunting sport.
:(
If you can get a SHARP broadhead into the lungs/heart area consistently, you will kill it.
.
When I first started bowhunting you bought a matched set of cedar arrows and practiced.
You put a good solid broadhead on it and made sure it was razor sharp.
Then all you had to worry about was accuracy.
Now it seems you need a computer program to figure out what to use...
I am a fan of the K.I.S.S. philosophy, keep it simple, stupid.
The animals have not gotten any harder to kill, they still bleed and need to breathe.
As long as you can put it in the right spot, it will do what its supposed to do.
:yeah:
Post by: huntnfmly on July 13, 2019, 11:51:58 PM
Post by: dilleytech on July 14, 2019, 08:42:54 AM
The internet has ruined archery as a hunting sport.
:(
If you can get a SHARP broadhead into the lungs/heart area consistently, you will kill it.
.
When I first started bowhunting you bought a matched set of cedar arrows and practiced.
You put a good solid broadhead on it and made sure it was razor sharp.
Then all you had to worry about was accuracy.
Now it seems you need a computer program to figure out what to use...
I am a fan of the K.I.S.S. philosophy, keep it simple, stupid.
The animals have not gotten any harder to kill, they still bleed and need to breathe.
As long as you can put it in the right spot, it will do what its supposed to do.
This is mostly true but arrow weight, Foc, stiffness of shaft goes a long way in accuracy. The heavier you go with an arrow the more likely you get the penetration you need to get to the heart lungs or whatever spot your hoping to get to. Specially for the guys who like running big expandables.
I think the OP’s 450g arrow should be fine on a good broadside shot for the speeds it will be going from a 56# bow with a good fixed blade broadhead.
Girls kill elk with 40# bows and 350g arrows all the time.
Post by: jstone on July 14, 2019, 09:59:13 AM
Post by: Jimmy33 on July 14, 2019, 12:19:35 PM
Not sure...probably just the scaleI use Easton FMJ 300 cut at 30” also, but I tip it with a 125 grain fixed blade. 536 grains...works like a charm.
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you got some extra weight somewhere, lighted nocks?
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Post by: spudder1982 on July 21, 2019, 09:13:33 PM
Confidence goes a long ways and if you are comfortable with your setup keep it. You have plenty of weight to get the job done.
There are a bunch of ke and momentum calculators online if you want to play with numbers to see the best weights for ke and momentum.
Post by: bowhunterty on July 24, 2019, 07:04:25 AM
Post by: elksnout on August 14, 2019, 06:51:02 PM
Elksnout
Post by: northwesthunter84 on August 14, 2019, 08:02:46 PM
Day Six 250HD’s 28.75 carbon to carbon for a 29.75” throat to outsert finished length.
50gr outsert, Rival 125’s and Easton G knocks. With fletching, epoxy, knock installed my finish weight is 579 gr + or - .4 gr. I’m shooting 75#’s at 30”. FOC is 15.4%
Post by: highside74 on August 14, 2019, 08:36:46 PM
Post by: northwesthunter84 on August 14, 2019, 08:49:17 PM