Post by: 7mmfan on July 28, 2019, 07:49:13 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 28, 2019, 08:35:57 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 28, 2019, 08:45:19 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on July 28, 2019, 11:12:52 AM
Wait, you own a 7mm?! :chuckle:
I know right? Not sure how that got in the safe.
Post by: Tracker0721 on July 28, 2019, 11:33:33 AM
Post by: Stein on July 28, 2019, 12:12:17 PM
Post by: Crunchy on July 28, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
I use Sweet's 7.62, just follow the directions and wear gloves in a ventilated area. I've heard guys use any of the major brands and they all seem to work.
Another Sweet's user here. Good stuff.
Post by: hunterofelk on July 28, 2019, 12:56:51 PM
I am going to try J-B non-embedding compound, a lot of good reviews on the Amazon page.
Post by: jasnt on July 29, 2019, 05:06:16 AM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 29, 2019, 08:03:26 AM
Boretech Eliminator is a great product to get most everything out of your barrels. You may have to resort to a copper solvent once the worst of the build-up in your rifle has been removed. Boretech Cu+2 is pretty decent, doesn't reek and won't create other problems like some other copper solvents.
Keep in mind that once you have removed every bit of carbon and copper from your barrel you may have to build up some of the copper gilding and carbon fouling before it begins to shoot well again. After I've completely stripped a barrel, I'll shoot once, remove carbon, and repeat maybe 5-6 times before I go to shooting regularly.
Also, keep in mind that a lot of this cleaning, fouling and maintenance stuff is a bit on the witch doctor side. Two of my friends are some of the top shooters in the nation (in PRS & NRL). One is a religious fanatic about his rifle break-in and cleaning process. The other just screws a barrel on and never bothers cleaning it. When it stops shooting he just tosses it and screws on another one. I'm in the former camp since I am not yet sponsored by a barrel manufacturer and want to get at least another 500-600 good rounds out of my competition guns.
Lastly, and this has already been mentioned...sorry to break it to you but with 2,000 to 2,500 of 7mm Mag down the pipe, you're barrel is either already toast or on the verge. You can get a boreskope and check it out, but I'll bet your throat is deeply cracked and pitted (which doesn't necessarily tell you the whole accuracy story).
Time to screw on a new one!
Post by: 7mmfan on July 29, 2019, 08:26:23 AM
All that being said, this rifle has been a dead ringer for a long time, so I'm hoping it can be salvaged. I'm going to start with stripping the barrel and making sure that isn't the problem, and then go from there.
Thanks for the advice guys, I appreciate it.
Post by: N7XW on July 29, 2019, 08:41:22 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 04:36:19 PM
Post by: Crunchy on July 31, 2019, 05:37:50 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 31, 2019, 06:53:22 PM
Alternatively, you could just sell the heavily coppered barrel to a meth-head. :chuckle:
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 07:07:43 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
The blue isnt coming from the cleaning rod adapter?
No I don't think so. They are plastic adaptors and I clean everything before running that last patch through.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 31, 2019, 07:37:28 PM
Post by: jasnt on July 31, 2019, 07:54:01 PM
Post by: yorketransport on July 31, 2019, 08:09:09 PM
I still used Barnes CR-10 if a barrel gets really bad.
Post by: jasnt on July 31, 2019, 08:24:45 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 31, 2019, 08:35:03 PM
That barrel is smoked man, let it go! :chuckle::yeah: even if you regain some accuracy after cleaning for copper, its gonna be short lived with that round count. I personally wouldn't waste any more rounds on it. Spin up a new one and be proud you torched a barrel. Most can't claim that :tup:
I still used Barnes CR-10 if a barrel gets really bad.
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 08:38:57 PM
I was able to get it satisfactorily clean on the 3 round. No blue on dry patches, barely the slightest hint on a patch with a little solution on it.
Probably won't get out this weekend or next week to shoot so I'll have to wait a bit to see if my efforts were worth it. I'll start rat holing money in the mean time for a new carbon fiber barrel
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 08:41:14 PM
Post by: jasnt on July 31, 2019, 08:49:44 PM
Never been a quitter before, not going to start now! :chuckle: I'm just stubborn and want to see it through. If the consensus is that it's toast, it probably is, but I need exhaust my options.thats the spirit. I still shoot one of my toasted rifles. It’s a rem 770 so not possible to rebarrel but I can still get min of deer. Rebarrel is cheaper than replacing the rifle in most cases. You going to go 7 rm again or change it up? 7/300wm?
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 09:08:48 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 31, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
I'd have a hard time leaving the 7mm. I've killed a lot of game with that round and have a ton of confidence in it. Plus I have a very very accurate hand load dialed in, although I suppose that'll change with a new Barrel.you'd have to change your handle too :chuckle:
Post by: 7mmfan on July 31, 2019, 10:04:26 PM
I'd have a hard time leaving the 7mm. I've killed a lot of game with that round and have a ton of confidence in it. Plus I have a very very accurate hand load dialed in, although I suppose that'll change with a new Barrel.you'd have to change your handle too :chuckle:
And theres that. I'm clearly vested in the caliber., and since I'm not as brave as you guys using your real names I'll just have to leave it. Besides, who would want to be friends with "used2b7mmfan"
Post by: jasnt on August 01, 2019, 05:07:54 AM
:chuckle:I'd have a hard time leaving the 7mm. I've killed a lot of game with that round and have a ton of confidence in it. Plus I have a very very accurate hand load dialed in, although I suppose that'll change with a new Barrel.you'd have to change your handle too :chuckle:
And theres that. I'm clearly vested in the caliber., and since I'm not as brave as you guys using your real names I'll just have to leave it. Besides, who would want to be friends with "used2b7mmfan"
Post by: coachcw on August 01, 2019, 07:11:29 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on August 01, 2019, 07:26:51 PM
i like to do a soak for about a half hour with the wipe out to break up the powder and carbon(and some copper), then go to town with the KG12. run a couple wet patches through, then a wet brush back and forth 15-20 times, let sit a few minutes, repeat as necessary. usually doesn't take too long. way faster than using CR10 or montana extreme, and you don't give yourself a headache with ammonia fumes either. if i use montana extreme or cr10, i'll randomly get a whiff of ammonia a few times for a few days afterward :puke:
Post by: 7mmfan on August 01, 2019, 08:37:41 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on August 01, 2019, 08:38:24 PM
Do you need to borrow a rifle ? :chuckle:
Maybe I'll borrow that fancy 6.5 you're always bragging about!
Post by: coachcw on August 02, 2019, 06:03:56 AM
Any time buddy !Do you need to borrow a rifle ? :chuckle:
Maybe I'll borrow that fancy 6.5 you're always bragging about!
Post by: 7mmfan on August 09, 2019, 09:08:22 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 09, 2019, 09:19:37 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on August 09, 2019, 09:28:15 AM
Just shoot it.
I figured I was overthinking this. Par for the course.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 09, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
:chuckle:Just shoot it.
I figured I was overthinking this. Par for the course.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 09, 2019, 10:14:32 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on August 09, 2019, 10:21:02 AM
Post by: Stein on August 09, 2019, 01:04:03 PM
It's all voodoo in the end and everyone has their favorite theory. Personally, I don't clean often, maybe once a year and that is mostly for rust prevention. When I do clean, it's just patches and solvent, never copper cleaner. This is for normal use, maybe a 100-200 hundred rounds a year on a very heavy use year where I am working on load development and a box or two on a normal year. If I shot matches and did a thousand rounds a year I may think differently.
With my barrel, I can clean with 1-2 wet patches, dry and light oil, 3-4 patches total and five minutes tops.
Post by: Yondering on August 09, 2019, 04:05:05 PM
i've found myself using kg12 and wipe-out a lot lately. i've never seen a bore so copper fouled as my 270 last week when i made a quick run to the gravel pit to chronograph some experimental powder charges, and ran about 20 normal bullets through after shooting some barnes TTSX bullets. inside of the barrel was orange, not just next to the lands, haven't done that before.
i like to do a soak for about a half hour with the wipe out to break up the powder and carbon(and some copper), then go to town with the KG12. run a couple wet patches through, then a wet brush back and forth 15-20 times, let sit a few minutes, repeat as necessary. usually doesn't take too long. way faster than using CR10 or montana extreme, and you don't give yourself a headache with ammonia fumes either. if i use montana extreme or cr10, i'll randomly get a whiff of ammonia a few times for a few days afterward :puke:
If you're using Wipe-out anyway, you could just skip the KG12 and do another soak or two with Wipe-out. That stuff does way more for copper fouling than for carbon buildup anyway.
Personally I do an initial 30 min to 1 hour soak with Wipe-out, and if the bore still has copper visible I'll do another one overnight. That's adequate to get the copper out of even bad fouling barrels, and leaves a lot less opportunity to wear the bore with excessive scrubbing. After cleaning out the Wipe-out, I just oil the bore and put it away.
Post by: rodell on August 13, 2019, 09:00:42 PM
If you are in no hurry, the wipeout foam or liquid with the accelerator is really great stuff. I always use the accelerator.
If I need to finish quickly, then the Boretech products are the ones I've settled on.
Sweet's works very well, but is water-based. It will etch the bore if you aren't careful. I have it but never use it any more.
Post by: 7mmfan on August 16, 2019, 10:28:54 PM
Shot the 7mm-08 that I recent floated and bedded as well. Best that this rifle has ever shot. Very happy with how that turned out. Working on load testing tomorrow for it.