Post by: beauhunter on August 02, 2019, 05:41:40 PM
Post by: Bango skank on August 02, 2019, 05:43:06 PM
I know bearpaw mentioned this at one point, but just a heads up if you are planning to hunt in any of the n.e units 113, 105 and so on you must have a copy of successful completion of the bear identification on your person. And no showing them on your cell phone is not sufficient, you will get fined!
The regs say you need proof, they dont say you need it printed. Sounds to me like on the phone is fine.
Post by: bearpaw on August 02, 2019, 05:45:02 PM
I know bearpaw mentioned this at one point, but just a heads up if you are planning to hunt in any of the n.e units 113, 105 and so on you must have a copy of successful completion of the bear identification on your person. And no showing them on your cell phone is not sufficient, you will get fined!
I wonder why they won't honor an electronic record on the phone? I have quite a lot of interaction with wardens in Idaho and we text them photos of licenses, notched tags, etc. :dunno:
Post by: Bango skank on August 02, 2019, 05:55:34 PM
Post by: beauhunter on August 02, 2019, 06:36:15 PM
Post by: Bango skank on August 02, 2019, 06:40:07 PM
My information came straight from wdfw, I called before we went out 509 8921001, I was just passing the info I received. Take the chance if you want but the warden I spoke to said that cell phone proof was not going to be sufficient
Well the regs dont specify printed proof, and ive gotten nonsense answers about things by calling wdfw before. With the regs not specifying printed, im not worried. Id fight it if i got a ticket, and id win.
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on August 02, 2019, 06:46:33 PM
My information came straight from wdfw, I called before we went out 509 8921001, I was just passing the info I received. Take the chance if you want but the warden I spoke to said that cell phone proof was not going to be sufficient
Well the regs dont specify printed proof, and ive gotten nonsense answers about things by calling wdfw before. With the regs not specifying printed, im not worried. Id fight it if i got a ticket, and id win.
I've been given rubbish info by calling as well. And when I say rubbish I really mean it. I email any questions I have so I can save the response and it seems to get better quality answers. All things considered I'd print my proof as well just to save time in the field.
Post by: beauhunter on August 02, 2019, 06:57:16 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 02, 2019, 07:40:23 PM
My information came straight from wdfw, I called before we went out 509 8921001, I was just passing the info I received. Take the chance if you want but the warden I spoke to said that cell phone proof was not going to be sufficient
Thanks for advising everyone! :tup:
Post by: h20hunter on August 02, 2019, 07:54:03 PM
Post by: pd on August 02, 2019, 08:34:11 PM
My information came straight from wdfw, I called before we went out 509 8921001, I was just passing the info I received. Take the chance if you want but the warden I spoke to said that cell phone proof was not going to be sufficient
Well the regs dont specify printed proof, and ive gotten nonsense answers about things by calling wdfw before. With the regs not specifying printed, im not worried. Id fight it if i got a ticket, and id win.
Amen.
Post by: Billy74 on August 02, 2019, 09:08:52 PM
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Post by: Bango skank on August 02, 2019, 09:11:18 PM
Just took it tonight and when you’re done it says you must print and keep a copy with you while hunting
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Well ill be damned, i didnt catch that when i took the test. They should specify that in the regs pamphlet.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on August 02, 2019, 10:28:33 PM
My information came straight from wdfw, I called before we went out 509 8921001, I was just passing the info I received. Take the chance if you want but the warden I spoke to said that cell phone proof was not going to be sufficient
Well the regs dont specify printed proof, and ive gotten nonsense answers about things by calling wdfw before. With the regs not specifying printed, im not worried. Id fight it if i got a ticket, and id win.
Amen.
:yeah:
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on August 03, 2019, 06:21:04 AM
Updated: I've added the message displayed upon test completion for posterity. As Bango pointed out, it does not specify you must have a paper copy vs a digital copy.
Post by: KFhunter on August 03, 2019, 04:49:43 PM
Although I agree with Bango, he'd win in court. (This year anyways)
Post by: Ghost Hunter on August 04, 2019, 08:28:12 AM
I printed mine, shrunk it down to 2x2 inches and taped it to my transport tag.
Although I agree with Bango, he'd win in court. (This year anyways)
I did the same. No need for me to think about the argument.
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on August 05, 2019, 10:22:34 AM
"Greetings,
I am writing in regards to bear identification certificates that a hunter receives upon successful completion of the the official identification test. Within the regulations and upon completion of the test the hunter is instructed to carry proof of completion on their person while hunting in the specified GMU's. It does not clearly state that the certificate must be in printed paper format. Many hunters carry electronic devices, such as a personal cell phone, that are capable of displaying a digital copy with name and Wild I.D. as provided by the offical website. I'm hoping for further clarification of the expectation as well as a request that the verbiage be clarified on the website and in the regulations to denote whether digital is or is not allowed. Thank you for your time and have a marvelous weekend."
Here is what I received today:
"Thank you for contacting the Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife.
The regulations state that you must carry proof of passing the test with you. You will want to print and take the printed copy with you. No other licenses or certificates are accepted on your phone in Washington. So keeping a copy on your phone only will leave the decision up to the enforcement officer’s discretion"
So there you have it. I consider it a non answer. I think we need to start advocating to get the WDFW into the 21st century where electronics are concerned and be definitive in the RCW's.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on August 05, 2019, 10:42:50 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 05, 2019, 10:59:04 AM
My information came straight from wdfw, I called before we went out 509 8921001, I was just passing the info I received. Take the chance if you want but the warden I spoke to said that cell phone proof was not going to be sufficient
Well the regs dont specify printed proof, and ive gotten nonsense answers about things by calling wdfw before. With the regs not specifying printed, im not worried. Id fight it if i got a ticket, and id win.
Yes and probably less hassle if you had a paper copy. :dunno:
Post by: birddogdad on August 05, 2019, 11:59:59 AM
Post by: Bango skank on August 06, 2019, 03:45:44 AM
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on August 06, 2019, 03:51:18 AM
Since it was posted where it says you must print it out, i went ahead and did so, down to business card size, laminated, put in wallet. I still think its dumb that an electronic copy on your phone isnt good enough. I mean, a copy of it printed out on a home computer is no more "proof" than an electronic copy. If i could make an electronic forgery, i could certainly print it out too.
My thoughts exactly. The certificate is pretty basic and includes information about each hunter that is readily available on their license. All I would need was a few minutes and a picture of someone else's certificate. At wallet size I wouldn't even need a good picture. Of course in the time it took to forge one I learned how to identify bears, sex them in the field, and took the test. All this work and I don't even have a bear tag.
Post by: beauhunter on August 06, 2019, 07:38:10 PM
Post by: redi on August 06, 2019, 07:42:41 PM
Post by: beauhunter on August 06, 2019, 07:51:07 PM
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on August 06, 2019, 07:58:33 PM
Well I took my boys out Saturday morning and both of them capitalized and put down bears, there is no doubt that the bears are thick but probably not for long after the Huckleberrys dry out. However while I was in the field I tried to go to my login and had no service to see my bear I.d cert. But the boys both printed theirs.
You can save the certificate as a pdf and view it on your phone at any time that way. Also, nice bears :tup:
Post by: WildlifeAssassin on August 07, 2019, 07:17:59 AM
Post by: beauhunter on August 07, 2019, 09:05:32 AM