Post by: JakeLand on August 02, 2019, 10:54:07 PM
Thanks Jake
Post by: Crunchy on August 02, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Post by: JakeLand on August 03, 2019, 04:39:05 AM
IF it were me I would flush it. Fairly easy to do. By only dropping the pan and replacing the filter you are only getting half or less of the dirty fluid out.ya but from what I’m understanding is with this many miles you want to keep some of the “dirty “ fluid as it will aid in it not slipping :dunno:
Post by: Zuus on August 03, 2019, 05:55:16 AM
Many rigs do not have a drain for the torque converter, so if you do it yourself, you only get a small portion of the fluid drained.
Having the tranny flushed BEFORE it gets dirty is a good idea. Extends the life of the tranny by keeping clean fluid running through it
It's about $200 with tax. Just had Jiffy Lube do my Jeep yesterday.
Post by: HntnFsh on August 03, 2019, 07:09:48 AM
Post by: luckyman on August 03, 2019, 07:35:04 AM
Post by: Stein on August 03, 2019, 08:15:40 AM
I'm at the point now that if it is working well to just leave it alone.
Post by: jackelope on August 03, 2019, 09:53:54 AM
People used to say a flush is too aggressive on higher miles transmissions that have never been flushed. We only flush transmissions. I can only think of one problem we’ve had and it was my technicians fault. Customer got a new transmission out of it. I don’t know if any manufacturers actually say to flush transmissions. Specifically Ford says to “change” transmission fluid.
Post by: JakeLand on August 03, 2019, 10:22:19 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 03, 2019, 10:49:09 AM
Post by: Zardoz on August 03, 2019, 11:49:53 AM
Post by: Jpmiller on August 03, 2019, 01:50:14 PM
Post by: Alchase on August 03, 2019, 02:24:03 PM
If the transmission is slipping already, it won’t matter what you do to it. The damage is already done.
People used to say a flush is too aggressive on higher miles transmissions that have never been flushed. We only flush transmissions. I can only think of one problem we’ve had and it was my technicians fault. Customer got a new transmission out of it. I don’t know if any manufacturers actually say to flush transmissions. Specifically Ford says to “change” transmission fluid.
Jackalope, why do a flush, if no manufacturers say to flush transmissions?
Is there a reason they do not say to flush transmissions?
Post by: jackelope on August 03, 2019, 04:17:28 PM
If the transmission is slipping already, it won’t matter what you do to it. The damage is already done.
People used to say a flush is too aggressive on higher miles transmissions that have never been flushed. We only flush transmissions. I can only think of one problem we’ve had and it was my technicians fault. Customer got a new transmission out of it. I don’t know if any manufacturers actually say to flush transmissions. Specifically Ford says to “change” transmission fluid.
Jackalope, why do a flush, if no manufacturers say to flush transmissions?
Is there a reason they do not say to flush transmissions?
Really I meant specifically the word “flush”. You can change the fluid by dropping the pan but you’re only going to get half of it if that, and it’s going to be way more expensive.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on August 03, 2019, 04:34:24 PM
Post by: jackelope on August 03, 2019, 05:12:01 PM
Yea crazy they made autos for last half century with internal filter and no drain plug.Dumb, isn’t it? Especially the mess it can make removing a pan full of fluid if you’re not careful
:chuckle:
Post by: Alchase on August 03, 2019, 08:34:06 PM
Yea crazy they made autos for last half century with internal filter and no drain plug.Dumb, isn’t it? Especially the mess it can make removing a pan full of fluid if you’re not careful
:chuckle:
Been there got that face full.
Also when pulling the tranny on a 68 Barracuda, thinking I could save money not renting a tranny jack, I was under it and bench pressed it up and back, forgot about the torque converter until it slipped forward and fell right on my face. I climbed out from under the car, and my wife and neighbor heard me cussing, came out and screamed thinking my head was covered in blood.
Took a minute to tell them it was tranny fluid.
:chuckle:
Post by: 3cityhuntr on August 03, 2019, 09:51:38 PM
Post by: spin05 on October 07, 2019, 12:08:23 AM
Post by: Halo on October 07, 2019, 05:10:13 AM
I don't know the right answer to your question but I'd say don't have jiffy lube do it whatever route you go. I've had nothing but serious problems with those guys.Exactly, my daughter took her car to them and they rifled through her glove box, got her insurance papers and filled a phony glass chip repair claim. They even forged her signature. I had just been through that process and when I swung by the insurance office to drop a payment off they asked me about it knowing I knew the process to file the claim it seemed weird to them. An investigation was started and they got busted. They were doing it all the time. It's a small enough claim most insurance companies just pay it. The only way people were finding out was when they changed insurance companies and the new quotes were higher because of previous claims.
Post by: bod on October 07, 2019, 02:23:25 PM
Post by: Bofire on October 07, 2019, 06:27:26 PM
Carl
Post by: jackelope on October 07, 2019, 06:46:59 PM
Drain and refill = 90% of flushing, I had my old 4 cylinder Toyota pickup flushed a month later the head gasket went.
Flushing your transmission has literally nothing to do with a head gasket issue. That’s probably just a Toyota head gasket thing.
Post by: jackelope on October 07, 2019, 06:47:55 PM
Dont flush it unless you can flush it your self. On my dodge ram there is a line i can pull off and do my own flush. On toyota i have no idea
It’s your transmission cooler lines that you disconnect to flush automatic transmissions. Anything automatic should have cooler lines.
Post by: follow maggie on October 07, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
Post by: Alchase on October 08, 2019, 10:28:13 AM
Drain and refill = 90% of flushing, I had my old 4 cylinder Toyota pickup flushed a month later the head gasket went.
Flushing your transmission has literally nothing to do with a head gasket issue. That’s probably just a Toyota head gasket thing.
Probably washed out all the "relative Bearing grease" :o
Post by: blackpowderhunter on October 08, 2019, 11:36:21 AM
I know with my 06 when i did trans fluid, you have to have the trans at a certain operating temp as you fill it to get the right level.
my buddy had the right scan tool to monitor the trans temp..kind of a pita...then you pull the overflow drain plug, and fill it until it overflows out of that.
i did this on mine around 140k and sold it at close to 200k and towed a bunch with it and it seemed good still :dunno:
Post by: Bofire on October 08, 2019, 05:50:16 PM
Carl
Post by: Alchase on October 08, 2019, 06:27:46 PM
I got a flu shot when my tranny was serviced and got Small Pox the next day, I am pretty sure I died but don't know it.
Careful
See should have got flushed by a tranny, err I mean tranny flushed ......... :o
Post by: jackelope on October 08, 2019, 06:34:19 PM
I got a flu shot when my tranny was serviced and got Small Pox the next day, I am pretty sure I died but don't know it.
Carl
That’s what you get for going to Jiffy Lube for a flu shot, Carl.
Post by: spin05 on October 19, 2019, 04:40:53 AM
Dont flush it unless you can flush it your self. On my dodge ram there is a line i can pull off and do my own flush. On toyota i have no idea
It’s your transmission cooler lines that you disconnect to flush automatic transmissions. Anything automatic should have cooler lines.
Correct it works well too
Post by: dog on October 19, 2019, 07:17:53 AM
Post by: Gobble Doc on October 19, 2019, 08:35:31 AM
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Post by: kramman on October 19, 2019, 08:48:11 AM
Post by: Sandberm on October 19, 2019, 12:18:26 PM
My Tacoma is at 450K. I did maybe a couple fluid changes. I certainly wasn’t careful with it. Not sure there is a clear answer here.
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You have a stock automatic transmission with 450,000 miles on it?
Post by: Gobble Doc on October 19, 2019, 01:30:45 PM
Yea stock. 2003. Believe it or not I just heard a clunk so maybe the tranny finally bit it. The engine runs great.My Tacoma is at 450K. I did maybe a couple fluid changes. I certainly wasn’t careful with it. Not sure there is a clear answer here.
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Post by: spin05 on December 09, 2019, 12:35:11 AM
Post by: jackelope on December 09, 2019, 07:39:33 AM
yes do not flush if possible. My dodge ram has a hose i can do it myself. See if you can find something like that. Just dont do the power flush like the transmission shop or dealer does
Why not?
You know the flush is done through the cooler lines, presumably the same "hose" you're using?
Post by: bearpaw on December 09, 2019, 08:23:14 AM
I just put suburban in the shop to have services asked about a tranny flush the mechanic told me to NEVER flush a tranny after 100k. This was the chevy dealership in downtown tacoma
Did he say why?
Post by: kramman on December 09, 2019, 09:15:12 AM
Post by: jackelope on December 09, 2019, 10:54:53 AM
I just put suburban in the shop to have services asked about a tranny flush the mechanic told me to NEVER flush a tranny after 100k. This was the chevy dealership in downtown tacoma
Did he say why?
Most of the time when people say don't flush a transmission, it's because they think it's too aggressive. We do hundreds of them year to year, maybe a thousand, and the only time I have ever seen a problem is when one of my apprentice techs left a pair of hose pinch pliers on a hose. No cooling, therefore the transmission grenaded. That wasn't the fault of the flush though, that was my tech's fault.