Post by: trophyhunt on August 09, 2019, 07:46:26 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 09, 2019, 08:00:16 PM
don’t forget a horn
I pretty much wasted my money since this state is so restrictive as to where you can use them
Post by: trophyhunt on August 09, 2019, 08:04:07 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 09, 2019, 08:09:17 PM
Post by: Mudman on August 09, 2019, 08:56:30 PM
Post by: elksnout on August 09, 2019, 10:13:19 PM
Would this allow me to ride mine in the national forest where all the signs are posted that only street legal vehicles are on the road?
Elksnout
Post by: bearpaw on August 09, 2019, 10:18:58 PM
In Idaho you can ride anywhere in the state except state highways and freeways, that includes any roads on national forest.
Post by: jackelope on August 09, 2019, 10:32:52 PM
Not to sound like a jerk but what's the point of so doing? I mean, where can a guy ride on the street?
Would this allow me to ride mine in the national forest where all the signs are posted that only street legal vehicles are on the road?
Elksnout
I’ve seen a few riding around Duvall here on the west side lately. They’re parked right on Main St so they must be legal.
Post by: elksnout on August 09, 2019, 10:37:10 PM
Not to sound like a jerk but what's the point of so doing? I mean, where can a guy ride on the street?
Would this allow me to ride mine in the national forest where all the signs are posted that only street legal vehicles are on the road?
Elksnout
I’ve seen a few riding around Duvall here on the west side lately. They’re parked right on Main St so they must be legal.
That would be cool.
Post by: KopperBuck on August 10, 2019, 09:28:33 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on August 10, 2019, 09:41:38 AM
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 10, 2019, 12:40:19 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 10, 2019, 04:33:07 PM
I cant believe not even legal on a lot of NF roads
Post by: trophyhunt on August 13, 2019, 07:15:12 PM
Some WA counties allow use on any roads except state highways and freeways. You can drive right through town or down county highways or dirt roads. The forest service in WA does not allow use except on specified sections of road, but you can ride on a county road through the national forest in a county that allows use. You can also ride roads in state land and open timber company lands.so now that I have all the required lights and stuff installed, are you saying with a street legal quad I still can’t drive on FS roads? Don’t the signs say, “street legal vehicles only”?
In Idaho you can ride anywhere in the state except state highways and freeways, that includes any roads on national forest.
Post by: MADMAX on August 13, 2019, 08:19:59 PM
A few years ago I had mine fully street legal in the back of my truck I was over in Winthrop I was heading up into the Wenatchee national forest
The fish cop actually told me make sure you don’t unload that ATV and try to use it up there
I said why not it street legal he said you must’ve not seen the little tiny sign that said no ATVs
Very limited legal areas on Forest service land unless you’re somewhere like Conconully
Post by: trophyhunt on August 13, 2019, 08:28:13 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 13, 2019, 08:58:45 PM
Not the roads........most places
Post by: bornhunter on August 13, 2019, 09:18:34 PM
You can ride on the Jeep trails
Not the roads........most places
What is the FS so worried about if the atvs are street legal?
Post by: 81husky on August 13, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
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What is the FS so worried about if the atvs are street legal?
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Good question. When I go to Idaho, I see them everywhere including National Forest. Is it just Washington NF that has a problem, or does Idaho have the same regulations, but it's just not enforced?
Post by: bornhunter on August 13, 2019, 09:44:15 PM
Washinton is probably some danged gopher will get run over
What is the FS so worried about if the atvs are street legal?
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Good question. When I go to Idaho, I see them everywhere including National Forest. Is it just Washington NF that has a problem, or does Idaho have the same regulations, but it's just not enforced?
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Post by: trophyhunt on August 14, 2019, 05:56:17 AM
Post by: bobcat on August 14, 2019, 06:38:16 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 15, 2019, 07:50:52 PM
Some WA counties allow use on any roads except state highways and freeways. You can drive right through town or down county highways or dirt roads. The forest service in WA does not allow use except on specified sections of road, but you can ride on a county road through the national forest in a county that allows use. You can also ride roads in state land and open timber company lands.so now that I have all the required lights and stuff installed, are you saying with a street legal quad I still can’t drive on FS roads? Don’t the signs say, “street legal vehicles only”?
In Idaho you can ride anywhere in the state except state highways and freeways, that includes any roads on national forest.
It’s not “street” legal, it’s “highway” legal.
Post by: 81husky on August 15, 2019, 08:40:50 PM
Post by: bornhunter on August 15, 2019, 08:56:48 PM
So is it Federal Regulations or County regs that are preventing us from driving in the National forest. Here in Okanogan County there are quite a few roads open to UTV/ATV, but it all stops at the NF boundary. Who do we write or call to get it changed?
Dont they fall under the Dept of Agriculture?
Post by: Russ McDonald on August 16, 2019, 05:36:15 AM
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Post by: lastmk8 on August 16, 2019, 07:21:23 AM
So is it Federal Regulations or County regs that are preventing us from driving in the National forest. Here in Okanogan County there are quite a few roads open to UTV/ATV, but it all stops at the NF boundary. Who do we write or call to get it changed?
I would guess we call and write everyone we can think of. Side by Sides are becoming very popular and not even a in use when these rules were written. Big push started in 2016/17 concerning changing the laws. Some have changed and I believe NF are supposed to have a road use plan, yet many do not yet. Now many that do allow ATV's cap the size at 50" maximum width, thus keeping the UTV still out of the picture. Makes no sense to me as I see jeeps wheelin' all over the place. Anyway, so I called Tonasket Ranger Station asking about their road use plan and if I can drive my UTV (Gator RSX860) in the area where I hunt. He told me three "mountain areas" that UTV's were ok to drive on NF roads and that I would not be issued a ticket. I did neglect to write down "Ranger Rick's" real name but I will get if before I do head over. I do recommend checking with the local Ranger station, for me it was much easier than trying to find any useful information on the subject via their web site.... probably because it is hindered by "government".
I do suspect that this rules will change drastically over time, they are just to popular, yet, if folks head up to rip up the mountains then I see it staying of coming back to being restrictive. Reviewing many off road trail sites and things there are still a large number that do not support 50" wide plus rides, I for one am hoping this number decreases and give us "old folks" an opportunity to get out and about in our rides.
Post by: deerlick on August 16, 2019, 07:30:42 AM
Post by: Mudman on August 16, 2019, 07:40:37 AM
Post by: jackelope on August 28, 2019, 05:02:30 PM
I learned today that street legal quads and UTV's are totally legal in the city of …. wait for it …. Bellevue.
Post by: trophyhunt on August 28, 2019, 05:17:46 PM
Post by: Mudman on August 28, 2019, 05:25:49 PM
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 28, 2019, 06:59:47 PM
Adding a little to this discussion....
I learned today that street legal quads and UTV's are totally legal in the city of …. wait for it …. Bellevue.
Yep, soon in snohomish, legal in monroe, startup, goldbar. Probably more places people just assume illegal
Post by: Stein on August 28, 2019, 07:02:20 PM
Post by: Bluemoon on September 10, 2019, 07:27:43 AM
Especially since my SxS is licensed in Montana and the chances of it ever seeing a Washington road is very low. But I 'm still a Washington resident. (for now).
Post by: Happy Gilmore on September 24, 2019, 08:40:10 AM
Thanks again Washington State. After getting my new Can-Am Defender street legal. Yesterday I called up my insurance company (USAA) to put insurance on it to be completely street legal. I was shocked that Washington State requires all ATV, UTV, Off road motorcycles and Snowmobiles to have added Medical Insurance to the tune of $35.00 a month on the policy. Another hidden money maker for Comrade Insley. You can sign a waver which I did. But what a crock of @#$%^&.
Especially since my SxS is licensed in Montana and the chances of it ever seeing a Washington road is very low. But I 'm still a Washington resident. (for now).
We have USAA and they simply will not insure my street legal Honda Pioneer or my Harley. I have Progressive for the ATV and motorcycle.
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 27, 2019, 07:58:29 AM
I have USAA and they insured my Pioneer but my travel trailer is through ProgressiveThanks again Washington State. After getting my new Can-Am Defender street legal. Yesterday I called up my insurance company (USAA) to put insurance on it to be completely street legal. I was shocked that Washington State requires all ATV, UTV, Off road motorcycles and Snowmobiles to have added Medical Insurance to the tune of $35.00 a month on the policy. Another hidden money maker for Comrade Insley. You can sign a waver which I did. But what a crock of @#$%^&.
Especially since my SxS is licensed in Montana and the chances of it ever seeing a Washington road is very low. But I 'm still a Washington resident. (for now).
We have USAA and they simply will not insure my street legal Honda Pioneer or my Harley. I have Progressive for the ATV and motorcycle.
Post by: Mudman on September 27, 2019, 08:03:46 AM
Post by: the1rod on September 27, 2019, 10:19:48 AM
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 27, 2019, 02:33:18 PM
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Post by: Happy Gilmore on September 30, 2019, 09:49:55 AM
So what happens if someone takes a side by side and drops a jeep tub on it? Is it now a vehicle, or still an atv?
I think there are a bunch of rules and laws revolving around customized vehicles. WSP inspections, new stamped VIN numbers on the frame and obvious safety requirements. By putting a jeep body on another frame, the VIN on the windshield would no longer match numbers on the frame and body which would alert WSP something is up. Vehicle VIN identifiers are found on locations other than the windshield.
Post by: bod on September 30, 2019, 07:39:24 PM
and take my advice
Get a Suzuki Samurai
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on September 30, 2019, 08:11:59 PM
Post by: Happy Gilmore on October 01, 2019, 09:37:14 PM
Do yourself a favor
and take my advice
Get a Suzuki Samurai
and a kidney belt the hard tail Harley riders use