Post by: pup0025 on September 24, 2019, 02:41:24 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on September 24, 2019, 02:42:36 PM
Post by: OutHouse on September 24, 2019, 03:04:48 PM
Post by: Parasite on September 24, 2019, 08:38:10 PM
Post by: X-Force on September 24, 2019, 08:42:54 PM
If it’s legal. I feel bad for the hunter. They are probably sick about not making a good shot
Post by: fowl smacker on September 24, 2019, 08:55:23 PM
Post by: pup0025 on September 24, 2019, 09:09:39 PM
Why judge?why judge? That deer is tiny tiny tiny. I get the sick feeling hunter. And yes it is legal.
If it’s legal. I feel bad for the hunter. They are probably sick about not making a good shot
Post by: pup0025 on September 24, 2019, 09:17:49 PM
Kinda a weird picture, I see no broadhead, no fletchings, and no blood stained bur where the black arrow looking object comes out. I guess the end on that side could be broken and the hide cleaned up?my scouting equipment is a little obselete. I thought the same thing. It doesn't look like it's moving to good in some other pictures I have. The hide does have some dried up blood on it. What we see is the entrance. The arrow never passed through it just stuck it right there. The deer has rubbed the nock and fletchings off except for about a half a fletching.
Post by: yakimanoob on September 25, 2019, 08:23:37 AM
Deer, like people, can survive some CRAZY stuff.
Reminds me of the cow elk at Oak Creek feeding station with the broken hip (only walked on one hind leg). I didn't see her last year, but apparently she had been in that condition for three years running. I only went once so she certainly could have been there.
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 25, 2019, 08:45:53 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 25, 2019, 09:12:18 AM
Why judge?why judge? That deer is tiny tiny tiny. I get the sick feeling hunter. And yes it is legal.
If it’s legal. I feel bad for the hunter. They are probably sick about not making a good shot
Maybe we should start judging whatever people shoot?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 25, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Post by: gutsnthegrass on September 25, 2019, 09:34:39 AM
Post by: buckfvr on September 25, 2019, 09:37:04 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 25, 2019, 09:39:32 AM
Could have been string jump.......If you havent experienced it as a bowhunter, you havent done much........
Man I hate how true that is. I had a high lung last year that made me sick. 3 hours of tracking the dang thing and I finally found it piled up. That was 3 hours of telling myself how bad of a bowhunter I am, how I should just give it up, how terrible this is, etc.
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 25, 2019, 09:41:45 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 25, 2019, 09:52:08 AM
Hope that deer survives. Way too much unknown to be criticizing what appears to be a botched shot during a legal season.this. Whether the deer gets shot at a year or at 4 years old, it's still dead. The same people who turn their nose at shooting a january pregnant cow won't bat an eye at shooting the same pregnant cow in Oct. Pointless human emotions that have no bearing in the natural world. Wounded animal sucks regardless of age. Because it's a yearling doesnt make it any worse than if it was a 6.5 year old buck. :twocents:
Post by: coachcw on September 25, 2019, 09:52:22 AM
Post by: RockChuck on September 25, 2019, 09:54:48 AM
Hope that deer survives. Way too much unknown to be criticizing what appears to be a botched shot during a legal season.this. Whether the deer gets shot at a year or at 4 years old, it's still dead. The same people who turn their nose at shooting a january pregnant cow won't bat an eye at shooting the same pregnant cow in Oct. Pointless human emotions that have no bearing in the natural world. Wounded animal sucks regardless of age. Because it's a yearling doesnt make it any worse than if it was a 6.5 year old buck. :twocents:
agreed, no reason to judge, maybe it was the only deer the hunter had seen all by itself and appeared to be a "normal" size deer with nothing to gauge it against?? and possibly first year hunting who knows. hope it survives.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on September 25, 2019, 09:55:16 AM
Hope that deer survives. Way too much unknown to be criticizing what appears to be a botched shot during a legal season.this. Whether the deer gets shot at a year or at 4 years old, it's still dead. The same people who turn their nose at shooting a january pregnant cow won't bat an eye at shooting the same pregnant cow in Oct. Pointless human emotions that have no bearing in the natural world. Wounded animal sucks regardless of age. Because it's a yearling doesnt make it any worse than if it was a 6.5 year old buck. :twocents:
This and this.
Post by: Todd6117 on September 25, 2019, 09:59:59 AM
Post by: Igottanewknee on September 25, 2019, 11:02:46 AM
Post by: Stein on September 25, 2019, 11:05:10 AM
Post by: dilleytech on September 25, 2019, 11:14:38 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on September 25, 2019, 12:01:22 PM
Sometimes, we are our own worst enemy. I'm sure the hunter is sick about it. I wish I was as perfect as alot of people on here. Bad shots happen to the best of us.:yeah:
Post by: pup0025 on September 25, 2019, 01:30:29 PM
Post by: syoungs on September 25, 2019, 01:49:00 PM
I saw a guy shoot a fawn antelope in WY one year and he was plenty happy about it. That thing made the one in the pic look like a monster. He was carrying it back to the truck with one hand.
yeah, we shot a couple fawn antelope in Wyoming this year, the hunters that took them were thrilled. One of them was the first big game animal he had taken, ever. I have no problems with harvesting younger animals, if that is what is available, and what I am looking for.
Post by: gaddy on September 25, 2019, 03:10:33 PM
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Post by: Bigshooter on September 25, 2019, 07:50:02 PM
Post by: pup0025 on September 25, 2019, 08:20:35 PM
Those pic's are posters for anti-hunting.your right. There are real consequences for what we do. Accidents happen. But look at your bottom quote. If this was a kids first deer or something then ok. High fives are due. I guess I was taught a little different than others but shooting a fawn is something I wouldnt do on purpose.
Post by: X-Force on September 25, 2019, 11:17:34 PM
Those pic's are posters for anti-hunting.your right. There are real consequences for what we do. Accidents happen. But look at your bottom quote. If this was a kids first deer or something then ok. High fives are due. I guess I was taught a little different than others but shooting a fawn is something I wouldnt do on purpose.
#HERO
Post by: Bigshooter on September 26, 2019, 05:42:38 AM
Those pic's are posters for anti-hunting.your right. There are real consequences for what we do. Accidents happen. But look at your bottom quote. If this was a kids first deer or something then ok. High fives are due. I guess I was taught a little different than others but shooting a fawn is something I wouldnt do on purpose.
Good for you. But until there is a law that says you can't kill fawns I don't see the difference between killing a doe or a fawn.
Post by: fishngamereaper on September 26, 2019, 06:44:07 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 26, 2019, 07:55:20 AM
Post by: Stein on September 26, 2019, 08:35:40 AM
It does seem that many people assume there is only one set of ethics.
If I was given the choice between a young animal and tag soup, I would be eating the young animal. In my mind the only difference between a spike and a fawn is body weight.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 26, 2019, 08:38:22 AM
It's pretty interesting how we apply different values to different animals. Most have no problem shooting ducks or geese hatched this year, but it's different with deer. Same goes with the attitude to "winging" one as well as the ethics of shooting them on the water vs in flight. When I took up waterfowling it really struck me the difference in ethics vs big game. I didn't grow up hunting, so I have developed my hunting ethics largely on my own instead of from a particular person or community.:yeah: like I said before, human emotions that mother nature does not care about.
It does seem that many people assume there is only one set of ethics.
If I was given the choice between a young animal and tag soup, I would be eating the young animal. In my mind the only difference between a spike and a fawn is body weight.
Post by: fishnfur on September 27, 2019, 12:35:07 AM
Deer hit in the backstraps seem to recover pretty well from what I've seen (on hunting shows - I never mess up :chuckle:) Bow hunting seems to have a higher rate of poor results compared to firearms. If this fawn had been hit with a 300 gr. bullet from a muzzleloader that close to the spine, it would have been last night's dinner. That shouldn't mean that we should alter legal hunting methods. Does anybody want to question whether we should allow bow hunting? I recommend that when we find ourselves questioning the actions of other hunters, first ask if they were following the law. Personal values are not transferable.
Post by: pup0025 on September 27, 2019, 06:34:31 AM