Post by: bigdave on October 06, 2019, 08:53:39 PM
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Post by: benhuntin on October 07, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
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Post by: X-Force on October 07, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
Healthy coyote
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Post by: northwesthunter84 on October 07, 2019, 11:54:19 AM
Post by: idaho guy on October 07, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
Post by: Scheindogg on October 07, 2019, 04:16:28 PM
One of my relatives sent that to me yesterday and he took the video. He said it was a wolf no doubt. I agree with him its a wolf. From just seeing the video I can see where you might think really big yote. He spends a ton of time in the woods and knows what he is looking at.
If this is true (not doubting it) then I agree plus I thought wolf from the video anyways.
Videos never give size enough justice.
It looks plenty bigger than a coyote to me so I can’t imagine how large it was in person :twocents:
Post by: KFhunter on October 07, 2019, 04:21:32 PM
Post by: wolfbait on October 07, 2019, 04:24:17 PM
One of my relatives sent that to me yesterday and he took the video. He said it was a wolf no doubt. I agree with him its a wolf. From just seeing the video I can see where you might think really big yote. He spends a ton of time in the woods and knows what he is looking at.
Can't be a wolf, wolves are shy timid creatures that avoid humans, just ask WDFW...
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on October 07, 2019, 04:26:28 PM
One of my relatives sent that to me yesterday and he took the video. He said it was a wolf no doubt. I agree with him its a wolf. From just seeing the video I can see where you might think really big yote. He spends a ton of time in the woods and knows what he is looking at.
Can't be a wolf, wolves are shy timid creatures that avoid humans, just ask WDFW...
This wolf was helping elderly and children safely cross the street. Part of the 80% doing "good things".
Post by: Crunchy on October 07, 2019, 04:28:43 PM
Post by: idaho guy on October 07, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
It's a wolf
nice work on the still shots! I thought wolf anyways but the still photos make it really obvious
Post by: wadu1 on October 07, 2019, 06:17:17 PM
The first wolf I saw in the lower 48 was in the parking lot at the Old Faithfull Lodge, dodging people but running between parked cars
Post by: TVHunts on October 07, 2019, 06:32:25 PM
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Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 07, 2019, 10:12:10 PM
Anybody who thinks this is a coyote... I hope my you’re kidding.
Their trolling us.😉
I saw two monster yotes early last Saturday morning heading east just after crossing the Methow river by those circle sprinklers, and this thing is much larger.
Plus the gate and the behavioral movements of a wolf vs yote are quite different.
Post by: KFhunter on October 07, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
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Post by: harveymarv on October 08, 2019, 05:38:29 AM
predictable
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on October 08, 2019, 05:46:01 AM
https://www.krem.com/mobile/article/life/animals/wolf-sighting-spokane-joe-albi-stadium/293-bce41a7c-82d4-4680-89af-3ba713e086bf
predictable
Well it’s tail isn’t curled, irs face is definitely not yote, I didn’t pet it so it’s hard to tell coat thickness, as for the legs I bet not all wolves have long ones.
It’s quaking wolf.🤔
Post by: Idabooner on October 08, 2019, 07:24:54 AM
Boss nailed it. The gate and movement is defiantly wolf. I've spent hours watching them on the hill across the river.Anybody who thinks this is a coyote... I hope my you’re kidding.
Their trolling us.😉
I saw two monster yotes early last Saturday morning heading east just after crossing the Methow river by those circle sprinklers, and this thing is much larger.
Plus the gate and the behavioral movements of a wolf vs yote are quite different.
Post by: yakimanoob on October 08, 2019, 08:07:37 AM
If I had to put money on it, though, my money's on wolf.
Cool video :tup:
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on October 08, 2019, 09:00:44 AM
Post by: 2MANY on October 08, 2019, 09:04:37 AM
Tracks don't lie.
Post by: boneaddict on October 08, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on October 08, 2019, 10:09:26 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 08, 2019, 10:33:58 AM
Size could be a BIG coyote, yeah, but everything else screams wolf (or hybrid) to me. It's impossible to be 100% from a video like this, as wolf/husky hybrids can be VERY close to wolves morphologically.
If I had to put money on it, though, my money's on wolf.
Cool video :tup:
I'm 100% sure it's not a coyote, big coyote or not.
Post by: KFhunter on October 08, 2019, 10:51:28 AM
My Sister owned a wolf and lived in Spokane. It escaped and disappeared. (a decade ago). I assume this is probably the scenario here.
I just don't see a pet running like this one is :dunno: it was clearly worried about the car following it, a pet wouldn't care and would just stand right in your way as or trot off to one side to let you pass by :dunno:
I could be a hybrid, by I think the odds are slim of it having a bum leg and running like that. A pet would *normally* have a surgical removal of a leg closer to a joint and not so low that the leg interferes with daily activities, also I think the injury makes the wolf run in a way that the legs appear shorter than they would be, hip rolled off to one side. And its missing any evidence of ever having had a collar on it, no collar ring on the neck, no collar. In Spokane I would think a pet wolf would have a big vest on it so as to not get shot or purposely run over :chuckle:
My opinion is it's a wolf until shown to be a pet, and if its a pet wolf...its still a wolf :chuckle:
I'm kinda thinking this guy got in a trap in Idaho or illegal trap in WA that didn't have a proper swivel and it managed to ruin its foot escaping.
Post by: wolfbait on October 08, 2019, 11:49:03 AM
Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Post by: boneaddict on October 08, 2019, 12:18:43 PM
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I just don't see a pet running like this one is
Oh its a wolf, and trust me, to anyone other than my sister, and her family, "the pet" was all wolf. As stated, Spokane is literally surrounded by them, so who knows.
Post by: Jimmer on October 08, 2019, 12:29:42 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on October 08, 2019, 01:01:51 PM
:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Post by: Henrydog on October 08, 2019, 01:27:52 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on October 08, 2019, 08:04:08 PM
:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
I dunno, the wolves around here just look at you with very little concern or care. You can drive right up close to them, they aren't afraid.
Post by: idahohuntr on October 08, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
Interesting. Is this personal experience or just bar stool stories you hear about? I'd say it's an oddity for a wolf to behave like that...letting people drive right up to them...nobody is saying it cant or hasn't happened...just that it's not normal behavior and would be a relatively rare event.:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
I dunno, the wolves around here just look at you with very little concern or care. You can drive right up close to them, they aren't afraid.
Post by: KFhunter on October 08, 2019, 08:54:04 PM
It would be a lot rarer if wolves were being shot, but from what I can see, hear and talk about, there's very very little SSS if any at all :dunno:
I know I know! it shocks me too! I would have figured all the wolves were shoot on sight by now, but E-WA folks are a lot more complacient than I woulda thunk!
As for personal experience I've had them follow me around like curious puppy dogs on numerous occasions, had only one bark at me so far, but it wasn't really at me, he was communicating with the others with that weird little chirp they do when my scent cone crossed him, no cause for concern or alarm, but I was ready for game if needed, but they just observed. I've had it happen in 3 different GMU's so far. None have directly challenged me either for prey testing or trying to drive me out of an area.
but...I haven't stumbled on a den, rendezvous site, or kill site yet, then it might get interesting!
as for driving, I don't care. Typically they'll jump off the road and watch you drive by, but they're very curious, wood cutters see quite often checking them out.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 08, 2019, 09:30:07 PM
If you have the time/daily commute to listen, I strongly recommend that episode. Very informative.
Post by: borntoslay on October 11, 2019, 04:58:20 AM
My uncle who farms out in Ritzville has seen them out there if you can believe that.QuoteI just don't see a pet running like this one is
Oh its a wolf, and trust me, to anyone other than my sister, and her family, "the pet" was all wolf. As stated, Spokane is literally surrounded by them, so who knows.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 11, 2019, 04:59:58 AM
Post by: borntoslay on October 11, 2019, 05:21:20 AM
Will be nice if and when your Uncle is able to see them thru his scope and dispatch a fewYeah I hope. Hes the guy you may or may not have heard about on the news
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Post by: nwwanderer on October 11, 2019, 07:19:29 AM
Post by: idaho guy on October 14, 2019, 03:46:42 PM
:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Those using "the talking points" have been exposed as outright liars why do you insist on defending whats been proven wrong? We now have decades of evidence in Idaho since re introduction and the narrative they used has been shown to be completely false. My personal favorite" They wont damage the deer or elk populations you will just have to be a better hunter" :chuckle: You probably believe all the forest fires also have nothing to do with practically eliminating logging either. I don't care really but I don't get why people continue to defend the bull crap they fed everyone when we now have first hand evidence that it was in fact bull crap :dunno:
Post by: jasnt on October 14, 2019, 04:23:46 PM
:yeah::rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Those using "the talking points" have been exposed as outright liars why do you insist on defending whats been proven wrong? We now have decades of evidence in Idaho since re introduction and the narrative they used has been shown to be completely false. My personal favorite" They wont damage the deer or elk populations you will just have to be a better hunter" :chuckle: You probably believe all the forest fires also have nothing to do with practically eliminating logging either. I don't care really but I don't get why people continue to defend the bull crap they fed everyone when we now have first hand evidence that it was in fact bull crap :dunno:
Post by: idahohuntr on October 14, 2019, 09:48:56 PM
Your blabbing about a whole bunch of crap that I'm not going to waste time on. All I said was there is ample evidence wolves are wary of humans...that general behavior is pretty obvious to anyone who has spent time in wolf country...pre or post legal hunting seasons.:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Those using "the talking points" have been exposed as outright liars why do you insist on defending whats been proven wrong? We now have decades of evidence in Idaho since re introduction and the narrative they used has been shown to be completely false. My personal favorite" They wont damage the deer or elk populations you will just have to be a better hunter" :chuckle: You probably believe all the forest fires also have nothing to do with practically eliminating logging either. I don't care really but I don't get why people continue to defend the bull crap they fed everyone when we now have first hand evidence that it was in fact bull crap :dunno:
Post by: jasnt on October 15, 2019, 05:29:56 AM
Post by: bigdave on October 15, 2019, 09:12:47 AM
Years ago, when I first started teaching, the janitor at our school was buffing the hallway floors one morning before school with a propane powered buffer that made a bit of a smell and a lot of noise. He had opened the double doors at both ends of the hallway to let out the exhaust smell and a cougar wandered into our school. Walked right down the hall and into a classroom. The janitor saw the cats back end going into the room and had the presence of mind to just close the door and lock him in the classroom. The IFG people came and darted it and removed it.
There is always that one weirdo.
Post by: jackelope on October 15, 2019, 10:34:35 AM
There is always that one weirdo.
Always.
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Post by: idaho guy on October 15, 2019, 10:51:09 AM
Your blabbing about a whole bunch of crap that I'm not going to waste time on. All I said was there is ample evidence wolves are wary of humans...that general behavior is pretty obvious to anyone who has spent time in wolf country...pre or post legal hunting seasons.:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Those using "the talking points" have been exposed as outright liars why do you insist on defending whats been proven wrong? We now have decades of evidence in Idaho since re introduction and the narrative they used has been shown to be completely false. My personal favorite" They wont damage the deer or elk populations you will just have to be a better hunter" :chuckle: You probably believe all the forest fires also have nothing to do with practically eliminating logging either. I don't care really but I don't get why people continue to defend the bull crap they fed everyone when we now have first hand evidence that it was in fact bull crap :dunno:
85% run like hell when they see you. 15% don't has been my experience. They are WAY more skittish since we started hunting them. I called in a pack of wolves and shot one with a rifle and again 2 years ago had 6 come down a closed road right to me within 20 yards and I managed to get an arrow in 1 of them. I have had many other encounters where they got away. I don't think a wolf would be really wary of people in Washington since they are basically untouchable. That's decades of first hand on the ground facts in Idaho that everyone who spends time in Idaho wolf country should now have. Most of what "they" said has been proven to be false and we have decades of first hand knowledge to prove that. I know we wont see eye to eye on this ever but it seems like you always want to side with what the pro wolf biologist told us for years and we now have tons of evidence to the contrary. I know there is no real point to arguing this on the internet have a good hunting season.
Post by: idaho guy on October 15, 2019, 10:55:24 AM
I think we can most likely all agree that wolves and cats are generally wary of people, BUT there is always that one that makes the news.
Years ago, when I first started teaching, the janitor at our school was buffing the hallway floors one morning before school with a propane powered buffer that made a bit of a smell and a lot of noise. He had opened the double doors at both ends of the hallway to let out the exhaust smell and a cougar wandered into our school. Walked right down the hall and into a classroom. The janitor saw the cats back end going into the room and had the presence of mind to just close the door and lock him in the classroom. The IFG people came and darted it and removed it.
There is always that one weirdo.
BIngo! they treed a big tom across from my office last year in cda on Ironwood drive by the hospital. They also had a lion come in my kids elementary. Every year they have that one weirdo :chuckle: we had a grizzly eating my neighbors chickens up by Silverwood. Animals are just like people some are kinda normal and you have a few weirdos that break the mold ha ha
Post by: ctwiggs1 on October 15, 2019, 11:15:28 AM
Maybe wolves are similar? :dunno:
Post by: KFhunter on October 15, 2019, 08:41:49 PM
Your blabbing about a whole bunch of crap that I'm not going to waste time on. All I said was there is ample evidence wolves are wary of humans...that general behavior is pretty obvious to anyone who has spent time in wolf country...pre or post legal hunting seasons.:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Those using "the talking points" have been exposed as outright liars why do you insist on defending whats been proven wrong? We now have decades of evidence in Idaho since re introduction and the narrative they used has been shown to be completely false. My personal favorite" They wont damage the deer or elk populations you will just have to be a better hunter" :chuckle: You probably believe all the forest fires also have nothing to do with practically eliminating logging either. I don't care really but I don't get why people continue to defend the bull crap they fed everyone when we now have first hand evidence that it was in fact bull crap :dunno:
85% run like hell when they see you. 15% don't has been my experience. They are WAY more skittish since we started hunting them. I called in a pack of wolves and shot one with a rifle and again 2 years ago had 6 come down a closed road right to me within 20 yards and I managed to get an arrow in 1 of them. I have had many other encounters where they got away. I don't think a wolf would be really wary of people in Washington since they are basically untouchable. That's decades of first hand on the ground facts in Idaho that everyone who spends time in Idaho wolf country should now have. Most of what "they" said has been proven to be false and we have decades of first hand knowledge to prove that. I know we wont see eye to eye on this ever but it seems like you always want to side with what the pro wolf biologist told us for years and we now have tons of evidence to the contrary. I know there is no real point to arguing this on the internet have a good hunting season.
:yeah:
Hunting and killing wolves in Idaho has changed their behavior a ton, anyone who disputes that or say's that wolves are just as wary pre or post hunting just doesn't know what they're taking about...at all.
Post by: idahohuntr on October 15, 2019, 10:19:36 PM
I see nothing here refuting the only point I made...most wolves are wary of humans. If they know you are there they will avoid you. Emphasis on MOST. That's not some liberal talking point or pro wolf biologist bs...that's just a fact consistent with many wild animals.Your blabbing about a whole bunch of crap that I'm not going to waste time on. All I said was there is ample evidence wolves are wary of humans...that general behavior is pretty obvious to anyone who has spent time in wolf country...pre or post legal hunting seasons.:rolleyes:Why do they keep spewing the same old line about wolves being wary of humans? They are wolves, they have no reason to be wary of anything.
Talking points from the USFWS and fake environmental groups like WDFW, CNW, DoW etc.....
Or maybe it's just a fact supported by lots of evidence over many decades.
Those using "the talking points" have been exposed as outright liars why do you insist on defending whats been proven wrong? We now have decades of evidence in Idaho since re introduction and the narrative they used has been shown to be completely false. My personal favorite" They wont damage the deer or elk populations you will just have to be a better hunter" :chuckle: You probably believe all the forest fires also have nothing to do with practically eliminating logging either. I don't care really but I don't get why people continue to defend the bull crap they fed everyone when we now have first hand evidence that it was in fact bull crap :dunno:
85% run like hell when they see you. 15% don't has been my experience. They are WAY more skittish since we started hunting them. I called in a pack of wolves and shot one with a rifle and again 2 years ago had 6 come down a closed road right to me within 20 yards and I managed to get an arrow in 1 of them. I have had many other encounters where they got away. I don't think a wolf would be really wary of people in Washington since they are basically untouchable. That's decades of first hand on the ground facts in Idaho that everyone who spends time in Idaho wolf country should now have. Most of what "they" said has been proven to be false and we have decades of first hand knowledge to prove that. I know we wont see eye to eye on this ever but it seems like you always want to side with what the pro wolf biologist told us for years and we now have tons of evidence to the contrary. I know there is no real point to arguing this on the internet have a good hunting season.
:yeah:
Hunting and killing wolves in Idaho has changed their behavior a ton, anyone who disputes that or say's that wolves are just as wary pre or post hunting just doesn't know what they're taking about...at all.
If anyone would like to continue to argue wolves are not wary of humans, please go take photos of 5 different wolves, in the wild, and post them up on this thread this weekend. There are hundreds of wolves within a couple hour drive of NE Wa and N idaho...so getting pictures of 5 different/separate wolf encounters should be super easy if you believe wolves are not wary of humans...in fact, take selfies with the wolves in the background :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on October 16, 2019, 11:03:30 AM
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Post by: idaho guy on October 16, 2019, 11:17:45 AM
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on October 16, 2019, 11:49:56 AM
Post by: idaho guy on October 16, 2019, 01:28:35 PM
That's a very healthy looking coyote Idaho Guy. ;)
:chuckle: yep!
Post by: idaho guy on October 16, 2019, 01:36:27 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on October 16, 2019, 03:47:31 PM
:chuckle: 4 more when I can get out comingHuh...resorting to a trail cam pic for an animal not wary of humans??? :chuckle: :chuckle:
KF...same for you...if they are following you everywhere, just turn around and snap photos, post em up this weekend...its always fun seeing wildlife pics :tup:
Post by: idaho guy on October 16, 2019, 04:21:43 PM
:chuckle: 4 more when I can get out comingHuh...resorting to a trail cam pic for an animal not wary of humans??? :chuckle: :chuckle:
KF...same for you...if they are following you everywhere, just turn around and snap photos, post em up this weekend...its always fun seeing wildlife pics :tup:
not being serious with trail cam photo :chuckle: If I see one standing there this weekend the picture will be of a dead wolf :tup: you might want to look at wolf encounter thread video recently posted.Those wolfs don't act wary at all. Idaho wolves have become pretty skittish for most part since hunting was opened but I don't think Washington wolves would be since they are untouchable for the most part
Post by: KFhunter on October 17, 2019, 08:39:43 AM
KF...same for you...if they are following you everywhere, just turn around and snap photos, post em up this weekend...its always fun seeing wildlife pics :tup:
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=243523.msg3262803;topicseen#new
Post by: boneaddict on October 17, 2019, 08:47:03 AM
Post by: idaho guy on October 17, 2019, 02:06:41 PM
KF...same for you...if they are following you everywhere, just turn around and snap photos, post em up this weekend...its always fun seeing wildlife pics :tup:
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=243523.msg3262803;topicseen#new
:tup: request granted Idaho hunter- There is 5 unwary washington wolves on video! I guess I don't need my camera this weekend
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on October 17, 2019, 03:15:32 PM
KF...same for you...if they are following you everywhere, just turn around and snap photos, post em up this weekend...its always fun seeing wildlife pics :tup:
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=243523.msg3262803;topicseen#new
:tup: request granted Idaho hunter- There is 5 unwary washington wolves on video! I guess I don't need my camera this weekend
You wouldn't want to miss out on another selfie by forgetting your camera.
Post by: idahohuntr on October 17, 2019, 08:54:32 PM
I'm confused...you and KF are telling me the wolves are not wary of humans...KF has them following him around peeing on him or something like that...and between the two of you, you've posted 1 trailcam pic, a dead wolf pic (nice one btw), and a link to some other guys video.KF...same for you...if they are following you everywhere, just turn around and snap photos, post em up this weekend...its always fun seeing wildlife pics :tup:
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=243523.msg3262803;topicseen#new
:tup: request granted Idaho hunter- There is 5 unwary washington wolves on video! I guess I don't need my camera this weekend
Between N. Idaho and NE WA...you fellas have literally hundreds of wolves all around you. They aren't at all scared of humans according to you guys, so go snap 5 pictures and post em up. You guys really don't even have to go out of your way...I don't understand why this is taking so long...just take the pics.
Or, maybe we all just agree wolves in general are pretty wary of humans, and while folks get occasional photos/video - even in areas with hundreds of wolves, its still not all that common for wolves to just stand around and let humans take pictures of them. :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on October 17, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
Maybe the gal in Idaho that barely stopped a wolf with her hand gun thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the USFW gal that sprayed a wolf numerous times with bear spray and ended up having to climb a tree twice thought they were suppose to be wary?
Maybe that kid who got his head chomped in his tent thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the guy attacked this summer in Canada thought they'd be wary?
Maybe the mountian biker who got attacked thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the teacher that got pursued then killed by wolves and partially consumed thought wolves were suppose to be wary of people??
I mean they've all been told wolves are wary of people right??
I won't be taking any selfies with wolves idahunter, if they're that close then an attack is likely imminent. Telling people that wolves are wary and avoid people only gets people hurt.
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Post by: idahohuntr on October 18, 2019, 10:33:23 AM
Maybe that guy that got surrounded by a pack a couple years ago and had to shoot one that tried to come in from the rear thought they would be wary?:rolleyes:
Maybe the gal in Idaho that barely stopped a wolf with her hand gun thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the USFW gal that sprayed a wolf numerous times with bear spray and ended up having to climb a tree twice thought they were suppose to be wary?
Maybe that kid who got his head chomped in his tent thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the guy attacked this summer in Canada thought they'd be wary?
Maybe the mountian biker who got attacked thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the teacher that got pursued then killed by wolves and partially consumed thought wolves were suppose to be wary of people??
I mean they've all been told wolves are wary of people right??
I won't be taking any selfies with wolves idahunter, if they're that close then an attack is likely imminent. Telling people that wolves are wary and avoid people only gets people hurt.
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I figured you would bail when asked to present direct evidence of all these wolves that are unwary of humans in NE WA. And please don't waste my time providing links to other peoples pics/videos...that would be like me arguing there are 400" bulls all over the place and they are easy to find and then giving you a bunch of youtube links to other guys who are out finding actual 400" bulls. Absurd.
BTW - nobody has ever stated wolves or any predators won't and don't attack or threaten people...my statement was that MOST wolves are wary of humans. And given the millions of people wandering the woods in areas where wolves live, of course there are going to be encounters. General animal behavior doesn't mean a whole lot when its the one predator that's chewing on you personally, but to suggest that "wolves are wary of humans" is some liberal pro wolf talking point is absurd tinfoil hat BS and you know it. Otherwise you would be able to immediately produce several of your own pictures of wolves as you live among hundreds...and you obviously can't...because its actually not all that easy to find a wolf and take its picture...because they are generally WARY of humans. Some folks, probably some on this forum, could do it...but they are talented and spend a lot of time and have a lot of knowledge regarding wildlife behavior...but the average guy is not going to wander out in the woods and find multiple encounters with these "unwary" wolves.
Post by: KFhunter on October 18, 2019, 11:24:33 AM
Maybe that guy that got surrounded by a pack a couple years ago and had to shoot one that tried to come in from the rear thought they would be wary?:rolleyes:
Maybe the gal in Idaho that barely stopped a wolf with her hand gun thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the USFW gal that sprayed a wolf numerous times with bear spray and ended up having to climb a tree twice thought they were suppose to be wary?
Maybe that kid who got his head chomped in his tent thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the guy attacked this summer in Canada thought they'd be wary?
Maybe the mountian biker who got attacked thought theyd be wary?
Maybe the teacher that got pursued then killed by wolves and partially consumed thought wolves were suppose to be wary of people??
I mean they've all been told wolves are wary of people right??
I won't be taking any selfies with wolves idahunter, if they're that close then an attack is likely imminent. Telling people that wolves are wary and avoid people only gets people hurt.
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I figured you would bail when asked to present direct evidence of all these wolves that are unwary of humans in NE WA. And please don't waste my time providing links to other peoples pics/videos...that would be like me arguing there are 400" bulls all over the place and they are easy to find and then giving you a bunch of youtube links to other guys who are out finding actual 400" bulls. Absurd.
BTW - nobody has ever stated wolves or any predators won't and don't attack or threaten people...my statement was that MOST wolves are wary of humans. And given the millions of people wandering the woods in areas where wolves live, of course there are going to be encounters. General animal behavior doesn't mean a whole lot when its the one predator that's chewing on you personally, but to suggest that "wolves are wary of humans" is some liberal pro wolf talking point is absurd tinfoil hat BS and you know it. Otherwise you would be able to immediately produce several of your own pictures of wolves as you live among hundreds...and you obviously can't...because its actually not all that easy to find a wolf and take its picture...because they are generally WARY of humans. Some folks, probably some on this forum, could do it...but they are talented and spend a lot of time and have a lot of knowledge regarding wildlife behavior...but the average guy is not going to wander out in the woods and find multiple encounters with these "unwary" wolves.
You're killin' me smalls :chuckle:
You minimize other peoples' videos and encounters in order to attempt to personalize it to me directly, but those encounters are very real and done by UN-wary wolves to very ordinary people.
There's no dispute, wary wolves wouldn't attack people or even come close, yet they frequently are and doing it more frequently where they're protected. The evidence will keep rolling in and you'll keep being wrong as you've been from the very start.
Post by: nwwanderer on October 18, 2019, 12:14:21 PM
Post by: jasnt on October 18, 2019, 12:31:00 PM
They are all a little different just like people. Most of the wolves I’ve seen were not wary of me, ones I haven’t seen could have been wary or just didn’t care.
I still believe the op is of a wolf
Many folks would say whitetail are wary of people yet we have been having deer walk right up on my crew on the job site and start munching apples in the yard. Where critters call home and the past interactions they have had can dictate their behavior.
Post by: KFhunter on October 18, 2019, 01:02:40 PM
Where critters call home and the past interactions they have had can dictate their behavior.
that, in a nutshell
the same wolf can be curious and non-confrontational allowing you to take a "selfie" but then you stumble on a kill site, den site, or rendezvous site then that same wolf can become very aggressive and you might not know why.
Post by: idaho guy on October 18, 2019, 05:16:02 PM
Where critters call home and the past interactions they have had can dictate their behavior.
that, in a nutshell
the same wolf can be curious and non-confrontational allowing you to take a "selfie" but then you stumble on a kill site, den site, or rendezvous site then that same wolf can become very aggressive and you might not know why.
Idaho wolves have completely changed behavior with hunting and trapping seasons. But you can and people do occasionally run into that one weird wolf or pack in Idaho that is not only unwary but outright aggressive. In Washington I would say the odd wolves are wary and skittish and your normal wolf is probably not concerned with people. Think about it like training a dog Idaho is creating respect for humans and Washington so far is doing the opposite. Bottom line is the narrative about wolves their behaviors and consequences of having them has been totally wrong in most instances. Somebody wants to isolate this to just wolves being wary of people but I had the same arguments here before about wolf impacting game population and of course it was habitat not extra predators creating the problems. Bottom line is most of what we were told about wolves that was based on decades of “scientific research “ was totally false. I think the video is pretty good evidence that wolves in Washington care less about people and right circumstances would be aggressive.