Post by: Old Man Yager on October 14, 2019, 02:51:09 PM
Post by: 2MANY on October 14, 2019, 02:52:45 PM
I hope someone puts it down next month.
Sad.
Post by: lamrith on October 14, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on October 14, 2019, 03:03:10 PM
Doubtful as it will not let him get his nose down to ground for food and more importantly water.that's what I'm thinking too, and he's probably not going to be able to break it off either
Post by: Timberstalker on October 14, 2019, 03:03:59 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 14, 2019, 03:04:05 PM
Post by: KFhunter on October 14, 2019, 03:04:22 PM
Post by: Dark2Dark on October 14, 2019, 03:06:34 PM
I would imagine that arrow will break off shorter at some point and he may make it just fine.
Post by: elkrack on October 14, 2019, 03:07:16 PM
someone probably tried a frontal shot since they seen it all over youtubes
:yeah:
Post by: lewy on October 14, 2019, 03:14:59 PM
Post by: Bango skank on October 14, 2019, 03:30:28 PM
someone probably tried a frontal shot since they seen it all over youtubes
Im sure. Id rather let an animal walk and eat my tag than take a marginal shot like that, especially with a bow. Shooting a small target perfect when youre in your back yard practicing is one thing, when your adrenaline is up its another. That, and targets dont move. Could have taken a frontal on the buck i was hunting last year, was drawn and ready, but i didnt do it. Now i get to hunt him again next month.
Post by: stickslinger on October 14, 2019, 04:20:47 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on October 14, 2019, 04:34:29 PM
Post by: branches on October 14, 2019, 04:47:25 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on October 14, 2019, 05:46:58 PM
I think he will get it busted off one way or another they are tough sobsDoubtful as it will not let him get his nose down to ground for food and more importantly water.that's what I'm thinking too, and he's probably not going to be able to break it off either
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 14, 2019, 06:57:05 PM
Everyone jumps to conclusions, that second pose with a bad shot could also be the case
Agreed. Also could have been an unseen deflect, ricochet. Sucks to see whatever the reason.
Post by: Jimmer on October 14, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
Post by: Buckjunkie on October 14, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
Post by: Jimmer on October 14, 2019, 08:59:55 PM
If you released this arrow you should be ashamed of yourself. As hunters, we should always strive to put animals down in the quickest way possible. This looks like someone took a bad shot hoping to get lucky and this bull walks around paying the price. Way to go dirtbag.
:yeah:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 06:21:49 AM
If you released this arrow you should be ashamed of yourself. As hunters, we should always strive to put animals down in the quickest way possible. This looks like someone took a bad shot hoping to get lucky and this bull walks around paying the price. Way to go dirtbag.
You don't sound like an archery hunter - just a guess. We have no idea what happened on this shot. I know it looks like a frontal shot failure. However, the bull could've wheeled on the release, or something else. None of us know. Bullets are instant. Arrows aren't. Archery comes with the possibility of a good shot that turns to chit. I hope it serves as a reminder that we need to take the best shot or none at all.
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 15, 2019, 06:39:45 AM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on October 15, 2019, 08:51:01 AM
Post by: Igottanewknee on October 15, 2019, 09:46:34 AM
I've shot a doe through the neck and into the heart from frontal left side. Problem is, she was standing broadside perfectly the opposite side at 35 yards. She wheeled around that fast that I shot her on the opposite side if ever so slightly. I most certainly was not ashamed of my shot. Even if I would have missed completely. Somebody out there is probably a lot better at that shooting thing than the rest of us. :dunno:If you released this arrow you should be ashamed of yourself. As hunters, we should always strive to put animals down in the quickest way possible. This looks like someone took a bad shot hoping to get lucky and this bull walks around paying the price. Way to go dirtbag.
You don't sound like an archery hunter - just a guess. We have no idea what happened on this shot. I know it looks like a frontal shot failure. However, the bull could've wheeled on the release, or something else. None of us know. Bullets are instant. Arrows aren't. Archery comes with the possibility of a good shot that turns to chit. I hope it serves as a reminder that we need to take the best shot or none at all.
Post by: cavemann on October 15, 2019, 10:02:33 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 15, 2019, 10:10:59 AM
Post by: npaull on October 15, 2019, 11:47:50 AM
As a friend of mine once said: "we're trying to kill these animals. Don't be surprised if one sometimes gets hurt."
It sucks for sure. But no elk in the wild dies in bed on a morphine drip.
Post by: coachcw on October 15, 2019, 05:47:50 PM
Post by: brew on October 15, 2019, 06:24:19 PM
Post by: KFhunter on October 15, 2019, 08:33:40 PM
Post by: Buckjunkie on October 15, 2019, 09:04:43 PM
This was a bad call by an inexperienced hunter. Simple as that.
Post by: KFhunter on October 15, 2019, 09:08:25 PM
If I seen that during mod firearm season I would have tried to shoot that arrow, maybe even a nick might allow the elk to break it off ?
It looks like the elk might have been going hungry, looks a bit thin on the hams and can see the hips
Post by: baker5150 on October 16, 2019, 07:57:07 AM
I have archery hunted a fair amount. I have hunted Archery Whitetails and Elk across multiple states. I have never even come close to shooting an animal up the snout. I have had whitetail string jump me, but they never have turned towards me to produce this outcome.
This was a bad call by an inexperienced hunter. Simple as that.
So you admit to having game move during your shot, but not like this, so it's due to "inexperience", because you have "archery hunted a fair amount" ????
Log Off, your part of the problem.
Post by: Jpmiller on October 16, 2019, 08:40:18 AM
There's lots of stuff we can do to minimize the chance of a bad shot but there's no eliminating all risk of it. Could very easily have been somebody took a shot they knew was a bad shot and didn't care and moved on without any attempt at trailing the animal or could have been someone who spends 60 days a year in the field with a bow in hand trying to harvest his 30th elk.
It's a bummer either way but I'm not joining the posse to go round the person up base on a picture.
Post by: Angry Perch on October 16, 2019, 08:54:35 AM
Stuff happens, and it sometimes ends up bad.
Post by: LDennis24 on October 16, 2019, 09:04:48 AM
My brother had a bull up on South Prairie out of Trout Lake at 30yds or so one year in the old growth timber. The light wasn't the best due to the canopy of that old growth being so thick and when he released his arrow it went left and barely missed that bulls eyeball as he turned toward us at the same time. After the shot we walked it out and at about 25 yds was an old dead vine maple branch sticking up... You couldn't see it from where we were because it was blending in so well. Lots of these scenarios like this if you think back over the year's...
Post by: npaull on October 16, 2019, 09:15:18 AM
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This was a bad call by an inexperienced hunter. Simple as that.
This conclusion, based on literally zero knowledge of the situation, is absolutely ludicrous.
Post by: Odell on October 16, 2019, 09:26:25 AM
Only difference between this and a poor rifle shot is you can see the arrow...lots of elk running around with lead in them..sure sucks to look at but unless it's your arrow I would be hesitant to pass judgement on the hunter or the scenario..since I know I don't live in a perfect world.
Great point. It’s a good reminder for everyone, rifle or bow to do our best to take ethical and lethal shots. I have heard so many stories of long range spray and pray shots from fellow rifle hunters. We just can’t visually see the bullets they carry
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Post by: Igottanewknee on October 16, 2019, 09:55:08 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 16, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
How about that deer you've seen with its front leg shot off and hanging on by skin because one of those "inexperienced rifle hunters making a bad call, simple as that. " There's no way that a deer would move when you pull the trigger. Simply a horrible choice by a horrible person doing something he's not qualified to do.
"Simple as that!" :chuckle:
Post by: jackson7 on October 16, 2019, 11:02:36 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 16, 2019, 11:48:19 AM
Post by: Buckjunkie on October 16, 2019, 11:54:30 AM
I still can’t see how this elk supposedly turned into the Matrix bull after a good shot was made. Whitetail, maybe. I took a few bad shots 40 years ago when I started hunting and assumed this hunter was like me back then...Inexperienced. Maybe the arrow deflected off a branch, maybe the hunter hit the release on accident, maybe, maybe... I wish we could hear the story from the hunter.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 16, 2019, 12:02:52 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 16, 2019, 12:14:12 PM
Also keeping in mind that if he was feeding completely broadside at 50-60 yards, herd the string and turned to look he would put his face in the area of a poorly aimed shot..given the time it takes the arrow to travel that distance his reaction time could match the impact time..
Sorry , just scenario playing in my mind... trying to learn from others mishaps..
Post by: Goshawk on November 04, 2019, 07:48:23 PM
Post by: Goshawk on November 04, 2019, 07:50:14 PM
If a ricochet hit's him in the nose, you'll be crucified online. But if it takes out his jugular, it's an EPIC SHOT!
Stuff happens, and it sometimes ends up bad.
Dang lucky.
Way too much brush to try and thread an arrow through.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on November 04, 2019, 09:40:02 PM
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Post by: bornhunter on November 05, 2019, 08:36:27 AM
This is what comes to mind when guys tell me they shoot 50, 60, 70+ yards. So much can happen in the amount of time it takes for a arrow to fly that distance. Same thing goes for the uber long rifle shots. I believe you can be a great shot at the range but things still go wrong that can often be out of your control while in the field. By limiting our selves a little on range you can drastically reduce those things out of our control. I see people trying to justify themselves compared to rifle hunters. Why? They are completely different. Yes rifle hunters make bad shots also, but rifles are way more forgiving then arrows when the shot is off. You also here 10-1 archery lost animals to rifle animals. Its just part of the sport, it is harder to kill an animal with archery gear. We all would be wise to limit our distance a little and let an animal walk rather then stretch ourselves just to make a kill.
:yeah:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 05, 2019, 02:48:44 PM
As someone noted, an animal injured with a firearm is seen as "hurt" by the general public, whereas one with an arrow in it was undeniably wounded by an archer. For context, I've put down around 600 injured big game animals, over 500 were motor vehicle collisions, a few dozen were injured with a firearm and 2 had arrows sticking out of them. The rest were an odd assortment of entangled in fences, savaged by dogs or wild predators, starving, diseased or actually healthy but with a healed or congenital injury.
We all hate to see this, but hunter or trapper harvest is a relatively humane cause of death. All wild animals live a short life and die a "bad" death; the other options are disease, starvation, predation, or traumatic injury. Almost no wild animal lives out its maximum life expectancy and dies peacefully of old age.
Post by: Screwtape5981 on November 08, 2019, 04:53:35 PM