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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: savagehunter on October 14, 2019, 06:11:56 PM

Title: Helicopter blowing up our hunt opening day.
Post by: savagehunter on October 14, 2019, 06:11:56 PM: So my son and I hiked into our favorite vantage point for blacktail on sat morning. Set up before daylight and settled in to glass. Super high winds going on and it was vicious. Saw 4 does by 1130 no horned action. I decided to take a walk to another landing when a small helicopter came up the valley buzzing low over the cuts. When he got to the cut I was on swing directly over me went up a couple of mile came back down proceeded to drop really low over the cut i was on then did two circles directly over me banking hard so I could see the pilot clearly about 200 yds out. He then went to the top of the ridge and did a flyby over my son and the unit he was on. No numbers on the copter . Later as we hiked out we ran into the game warden. I asked him about it and he said they had no birds in the air in that area and asked me if I got the numbers. We we on weyrhouser with a permit. Was this timber company just checking out property in 30 to 40 mph winds or something more nefarious like folks trying to spook game on opening day. Never saw another animal after that bummed me out cuz we went pretty deep on foot to avoid just this kind of distraction.
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Post by: fishnfur on October 14, 2019, 10:11:40 PM: Weird. No ideas about the chopper. Can't imagine why Weyco or anyone else would be flying around out there at low altitude.
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Post by: Bushcraft on October 14, 2019, 10:20:48 PM: No tail numbers? That is highly unusual.

What kind of helicopter? MD 500? R44? Euro?
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Post by: jagermiester on October 14, 2019, 10:31:25 PM: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
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Post by: savagehunter on October 14, 2019, 11:19:07 PM: Not a helicopter buff. It was a small two seater pure white with yellow strip on the middle of the rotor single red lights.looked fairly new paint was perfect. I was really wondering on why he was flying so close to the ground and the rock bluffs the wind was shifting and blowing really hard I couldn't believe he was even up in that weather.
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Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 15, 2019, 06:14:04 AM: Probably Conservation NW just looking for wolves :chuckle:
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Post by: boneaddict on October 15, 2019, 06:16:01 AM: Probably someone else just out enjoying their hobby. I can remember wanting to shoot an ultralight out of the sky one fall day for doing the same thing. Thankfully I had restraint and just went away befuddled.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 06:53:42 AM: Did it look like this?
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Post by: JohnVH on October 15, 2019, 08:28:10 AM: 1 seat kit built?
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Post by: Bushcraft on October 15, 2019, 08:34:59 AM: If it was an R22 flying around like that in those conditions, the operator has a death wish.

Then again, most R22 operators are heli-hobbyists that are merely tempting fate by stepping into one of those woefully underpowered pieces of crap.

Never, ever, get in an R22...especially in warm conditions at any altitude with a low hour pilot. You are going to auger in, eventually.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 08:35:29 AM: No, Robinson R22. It has 2 seats.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 08:37:30 AM: Quote from: Bushcraft on October 15, 2019, 08:34:59 AM
If it was an R22 flying around like that in those conditions, the operator has a death wish.

Then again, most R22 operators are heli-hobbyists that are merely tempting fate by stepping into one of those woefully underpowered pieces of crap.

Never, ever, get in an R22...especially in warm conditions at any altitude with a low hour pilot. You are going to auger in, eventually.

Anyone flying in that at low altitude has a deathwish. That's why I thought R22, for exactly the reasons you stated. I wouldn't sit in a Robinson on the tarmac. I do have a reputation to maintain.
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Post by: JohnVH on October 15, 2019, 08:43:42 AM: Robinson hate? Ive flown in one, known a few people that owned them, and a guy that instructed in them, they had no problems.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 08:46:02 AM: Quote from: JohnVH on October 15, 2019, 08:43:42 AM
Robinson hate? Ive flown in one, known a few people that owned them, and a guy that instructed in them, they had no problems.

This is about the 44, but you get the idea.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-robinson-helicopters/
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Post by: JohnVH on October 15, 2019, 09:20:45 AM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 08:46:02 AM
Quote from: JohnVH on October 15, 2019, 08:43:42 AM
Robinson hate? Ive flown in one, known a few people that owned them, and a guy that instructed in them, they had no problems.

This is about the 44, but you get the idea.

https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-robinson-helicopters/

Interesting, thanks!
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 09:44:18 AM: There seems to be a couple reasons the Robinsons are involved in a lot of accidents and they're all related to price. 1. They're about the lowest-priced helicopter available, so they don't have the systems and redundancy of more expensive helis. 2. Because of the price, they're attractive to new pilots with fewer hours and experience. And 3. They're ugly because they're cheap and god makes them fall out of the sky sometimes.

I hope this helps.
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Post by: Stein on October 15, 2019, 10:52:49 AM: Thousand of parts reluctantly flying in close proximity to each other.

My guess would be a recreational pilot.

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Post by: scrapperdude on October 15, 2019, 12:18:58 PM: Did you give the pilot a friendly gesture as he flew by you?
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Post by: ThurstonCokid on October 15, 2019, 12:23:27 PM: This happened to me and our hunting partners a few years back on some weyco land in the Winston unit... very odd.

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Post by: huntingfool7 on October 15, 2019, 01:21:18 PM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 09:44:18 AM
There seems to be a couple reasons the Robinsons are involved in a lot of accidents and they're all related to price. 1. They're about the lowest-priced helicopter available, so they don't have the systems and redundancy of more expensive helis. 2. Because of the price, they're attractive to new pilots with fewer hours and experience. And 3. They're ugly because they're cheap and god makes them fall out of the sky sometimes.

I hope this helps.

Is that three or four points?
3. They're ugly.
4. Sometimes God casts them onto the ground.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 01:23:31 PM: 3. Being ugly is why he makes them fall out of the sky.
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Post by: Bushcraft on October 15, 2019, 01:25:14 PM: Quote from: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 09:44:18 AM
There seems to be a couple reasons the Robinsons are involved in a lot of accidents and they're all related to price. 1. They're about the lowest-priced helicopter available, so they don't have the systems and redundancy of more expensive helis. 2. Because of the price, they're attractive to new pilots with fewer hours and experience. And 3. They're ugly because they're cheap and god makes them fall out of the sky sometimes.

I hope this helps.

:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Post by: savagehunter on October 15, 2019, 01:25:57 PM: Looks about right but the fuselage was covering the frame completely. No frame showing on the rear. I held my hands up in disbelief like really man. I fought alot of forest fire when I was young and this dude was really hanging it out there cut bu the rock bluff maybe 200 ft out in a steep bank. I hope hes not back this weekend
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Post by: RockChuck on October 15, 2019, 02:17:23 PM: Had a blue and white on come up the ravine I was in pretty low last year in the colockum elk season I think I it had numbers on the tail and also had a large #1 on the side 🤷‍♂️
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2019, 02:26:11 PM: I used to enjoy it when the A-6s would fly low through the mountains. But they didn't stick around. A couple of big swooshes and they were gone.