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Title: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: lamrith on November 03, 2019, 04:53:45 PM: I know antlers are a good chew item for dogs, but what about some of the other bones? Maybe femur? Butchering up my elk now and want to make sure the 4 legged family member gets to enjoy it like the rest of us.

I have given her a few scraps of meat and trimming as I butchered and while she inhaled it, she seemed to have a hard time with it afterwards. Coughing/gagging like she was not able to swallow it, anything special people do with natural meat feeding? limit silverskin etc?
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Post by: Stein on November 03, 2019, 05:33:14 PM: Both our dogs love game meat except liver which they won't touch. They gladly inhale the most nasty, blood shot, hairy pieces I give them and they haven't had any problems at all. I usually bag up the trimmings that used to go in the garbage.
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Post by: jackelope on November 03, 2019, 05:37:09 PM: Look into raw feeding. It’s not something you just dive right into. You have to ease them into it. It can disrupt their bellies. We send some rabbits to folks who feed raw. It’s getting pretty popular. I imagine chewing on the bones would be ok if they didn’t have a ton of meat on them. I’d just be cautious introducing a bunch of raw meat to a dog not used to it.
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Post by: jackelope on November 03, 2019, 05:40:22 PM: https://www.caninejournal.com/raw-diet-for-dogs/

Side note. Some of those folks I know of who feed rabbit will give their dogs the whole (dead) rabbit, skin, head and all and let the dogs figure it out. They swear by it.
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: Stein on November 03, 2019, 05:43:06 PM: Yeah, good note. We feed it as a supplement or treat, not a pile of it to replace meals. Dogs don't seem to like diet changes for sure.
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Post by: JKEEN33 on November 03, 2019, 06:01:01 PM: I cut all the scrap into edible size and boil it. I put the soup, water and all into jars and freeze it. I put this on their regular dry food like gravy. They love it. I cut the liver up into chunks too and boil that. They get pretty upset when we run out.

I don’t give my dogs bones.
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Post by: Mudman on November 03, 2019, 06:12:37 PM: I was feeding my dog old freezer burnt burger, cooked barely. I got in trouble as he grew 21lbs in less then a month. Vet was MAD! Claimed too fast growth rate for bones etc. So I slowed it up. Dogs love all of it, larger bones are better/safer imop. My dog crushes femurs one bite! Chewing on beef bone now...
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Post by: greenhead_killer on November 03, 2019, 06:18:23 PM: I smoke the leg bones on deer/elk for my dog. Smoke for 12-14 hours to break the bones themselves down, leave whatever meat is there in during smoking, then vacuum seal and freeze for throughout the year. I also save any pieces too fatty for me for my dog. Cook them up for 8 mins and mix with his food until I’m out. He loves it.
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Post by: MR5x5 on November 04, 2019, 07:19:14 AM: We're part of this meat mafia... Dogs love it and definitely agrees with them.

https://www.wazzuor.com/
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: bornhunter on November 04, 2019, 08:15:26 AM: I was told years ago uncooked venison can give a dog heartworms.
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Post by: highside74 on November 04, 2019, 09:16:30 AM: I smoke the bones and then freeze them
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Post by: KFhunter on November 04, 2019, 09:19:25 AM: Echinococcus granulosus

Heart Worms

I would, but I'd keep really on top of the parasite meds for the dog
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: jackelope on November 04, 2019, 10:49:52 AM: Pretty sure you'd have to introduce the parasite in order for the animal ingesting the meat to contract heartworm.
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Post by: john LaClair on December 10, 2019, 06:36:40 PM: I smoke all my bones for my dog.
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: brokentrail on December 10, 2019, 06:47:52 PM: Raw meat doesn't transfer heart worms that I'm aware of, mosquitos do. I dealt with it often in the Midwest with my coon hounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirofilaria_immitis

Echinococcus granulosus are related to tapeworms, not heart worms.

The biggest thing is to not make a huge diet change at once. If you are wanting to give them some, do so in small amounts and see how their system handles it. Every dog is different, like humans, and you don't want the mess that a large diet change can cause, trust me :chuckle:
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: dreadi on December 10, 2019, 07:35:08 PM: Quote from: lamrith on November 03, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
I know antlers are a good chew item for dogs, but what about some of the other bones? Maybe femur? Butchering up my elk now and want to make sure the 4 legged family member gets to enjoy it like the rest of us.

I have given her a few scraps of meat and trimming as I butchered and while she inhaled it, she seemed to have a hard time with it afterwards. Coughing/gagging like she was not able to swallow it, anything special people do with natural meat feeding? limit silverskin etc?
You got one and didn’t text me to brag? I thought we were friends. 😬 😂

So my OTHER friends allow their dogs to eat whatever falls off scrap that doesn’t have hair on it while they are butchering, including bloodshot. They also smoke the esophagus to make into chew toys.
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: lamrith on December 10, 2019, 08:30:57 PM: Quote from: dreadi on December 10, 2019, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: lamrith on November 03, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
I know antlers are a good chew item for dogs, but what about some of the other bones? Maybe femur? Butchering up my elk now and want to make sure the 4 legged family member gets to enjoy it like the rest of us.

I have given her a few scraps of meat and trimming as I butchered and while she inhaled it, she seemed to have a hard time with it afterwards. Coughing/gagging like she was not able to swallow it, anything special people do with natural meat feeding? limit silverskin etc?
You got one and didn’t text me to brag? I thought we were friends. 😬 😂

So my OTHER friends allow their dogs to eat whatever falls off scrap that doesn’t have hair on it while they are butchering, including bloodshot. They also smoke the esophagus to make into chew toys.
Posted in Guts and figured you would have seen it. Didn't want to tweak your mojo ant further.

I did give her little scraps as I was cuttign it up, and have a container full of scraps frozen that I will break down into small portions when I get a moment (or many) to finally do my grinding.
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: jackelope on December 11, 2019, 12:48:17 PM: @NOCK NOCK I believe Nock feeds a lot of red meat to his pooches too.
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Post by: boneaddict on December 11, 2019, 12:58:34 PM: I always gave my dogs the carcass. Fall was their favorite time of year. Nowadays you aren’t even supposed to gut a deer without a hazmat suit on. Well, I guess I’m one of those bareback fellas going in with no protection as I don’t pack latex with me.
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Post by: WSU on December 11, 2019, 01:04:19 PM: I toss the bones into the yard to my waiting dog as I butcher. This year he buried 4 deer legs and 4 elk legs in a week. Every few days he shows up with a bone he buried somewhere. I've looked and can't find where he buried them. He's sneakier than my past dogs.
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Post by: rainshadow1 on December 11, 2019, 02:14:40 PM: Some dogs are garbage guts... I put boned out carcasses in with my dogs, they go crazy on them and their coats and overall health really seems to take a noticeable jump right after. I love it! Labs, Beagle, and Malemute, specifically. Others are bulletproof like them.

I've raised other breeds though, which are extremely sensitive and subject to about every little variance in their diet or environment. I'd avoid an extreme change with them. We have a jack-a-cha-weenie who barfs anything out of the ordinary, not matter how voraciously he eats it. I raised English Bullies, they were horribly sensitive, to anything, not just food, quite fragile, although you'd have never guessed it watching them eat!

Have to know your dog.
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: jackelope on December 11, 2019, 03:47:59 PM: We have a little dog that is allergic to chicken of all things.
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: NOCK NOCK on December 11, 2019, 07:09:20 PM: Quote from: jackelope on December 11, 2019, 12:48:17 PM
@NOCK NOCK I believe Nock feeds a lot of red meat to his pooches too.

Yes, we make our own dog food, but we cook the venison meat/scrap first. When butchering, either we eat it or the dog does, only thing that gets tossed are large fat chunks, and internal growths that I find.

As far as bones, I NEVER give any bones to my dogs, way too many bad things can happen. Your first unplanned vet bill will cure you of giving them bones again.
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Post by: OutHouse on December 12, 2019, 04:32:55 PM: Quote from: john LaClair on December 10, 2019, 06:36:40 PM
I smoke all my bones for my dog.

Guys first post is about smoke dog bones, awesome!
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: dreadi on December 13, 2019, 02:06:00 PM: Quote from: lamrith on December 10, 2019, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: dreadi on December 10, 2019, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: lamrith on November 03, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
I know antlers are a good chew item for dogs, but what about some of the other bones? Maybe femur? Butchering up my elk now and want to make sure the 4 legged family member gets to enjoy it like the rest of us.

I have given her a few scraps of meat and trimming as I butchered and while she inhaled it, she seemed to have a hard time with it afterwards. Coughing/gagging like she was not able to swallow it, anything special people do with natural meat feeding? limit silverskin etc?
You got one and didn’t text me to brag? I thought we were friends. 😬 😂

So my OTHER friends allow their dogs to eat whatever falls off scrap that doesn’t have hair on it while they are butchering, including bloodshot. They also smoke the esophagus to make into chew toys.
Posted in Guts and figured you would have seen it. Didn't want to tweak your mojo ant further.

I did give her little scraps as I was cuttign it up, and have a container full of scraps frozen that I will break down into small portions when I get a moment (or many) to finally do my grinding.

I look but, do not see. Send me some pics, man!
Title: Re: Feeding dogs elk meat and Elk bones?
Post by: birddogdad on December 13, 2019, 03:33:05 PM: Quote from: rainshadow1 on December 11, 2019, 02:14:40 PM
Some dogs are garbage guts... I put boned out carcasses in with my dogs, they go crazy on them and their coats and overall health really seems to take a noticeable jump right after. I love it! Labs, Beagle, and Malemute, specifically. Others are bulletproof like them.

I've raised other breeds though, which are extremely sensitive and subject to about every little variance in their diet or environment. I'd avoid an extreme change with them. We have a jack-a-cha-weenie who barfs anything out of the ordinary, not matter how voraciously he eats it. I raised English Bullies, they were horribly sensitive, to anything, not just food, quite fragile, although you'd have never guessed it watching them eat!

Have to know your dog.

:yeah:

one of my dogs got into elk some scraps a few years back and shut down her pancreas for a few days. almost lost her..
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Post by: Turdle on December 13, 2019, 04:29:00 PM: Our girls love hunting season. When I kill something :tup:
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Post by: Turdle on December 13, 2019, 04:30:14 PM: The bigger the bone, the BETTER