Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 11, 2019, 08:58:00 AM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 11, 2019, 08:58:47 AM
Post by: 2MANY on November 11, 2019, 09:02:00 AM
Personally no.
I would take the extra 10 days of hunting.
Post by: jrebel on November 11, 2019, 09:06:20 AM
Post by: jstone on November 11, 2019, 09:30:52 AM
Post by: buckfvr on November 11, 2019, 09:34:51 AM
Post by: npaull on November 11, 2019, 09:37:16 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 11, 2019, 09:40:38 AM
Depending on area, how many years it took me to draw and what I have seen during scouting I may or may not shoot that one.
General season? Any day all day. But this is a special permit and just not enough information for me to say what I would do.
Good luck with your decision.
Post by: zwickeyman on November 11, 2019, 09:50:03 AM
Post by: Ridgerunner on November 11, 2019, 09:51:57 AM
Post by: westside bull on November 11, 2019, 09:54:32 AM
Thats a really nice Hybred, curious what unit he is in?Yes indeed all about the unit.
Post by: Rainier10 on November 11, 2019, 09:57:50 AM
A buck like that is actually pretty good for what most quality permit holders kill in this state, however with the time left I'd pass.:yeah: but.....if you would shoot that buck on the last day I would shoot him now. You never know what is going to happen. Rut was just starting to get going this last week around my place but when it's over it gets way tougher. If it's all about the hunt I would keep hunting and enjoy it. If you would shoot that buck on the last day I would shoot him today because there is no sure thing of seeing him again or a bigger one.
Post by: sagerat on November 11, 2019, 09:58:19 AM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on November 11, 2019, 10:12:22 AM
Thats a really nice Hybred, curious what unit he is in?Curious, what makes you think hybrid? Looks 100% mule deer to me
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Post by: 3nails on November 11, 2019, 10:16:35 AM
It would be interesting to get a better look at his tail. Looks like it has a black stripe indicative of a hybrid.Thats a really nice Hybred, curious what unit he is in?Curious, what makes you think hybrid? Looks 100% mule deer to me
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Post by: MeatMissile on November 11, 2019, 11:04:01 AM
Post by: N7XW on November 11, 2019, 11:10:48 AM
Post by: scrapperdude on November 11, 2019, 11:22:40 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 11, 2019, 11:39:20 AM
Post by: RockChuck on November 11, 2019, 12:45:16 PM
then 2 seconds late would change my mind and take him :chuckle:
Post by: zwickeyman on November 11, 2019, 01:00:05 PM
Scrapperdude
Take a look at the first pic, he definitely has some Blacktail in him. Look at the black stripe down the tail
Post by: zwickeyman on November 11, 2019, 01:08:08 PM
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Thats a really nice Hybrid, curious what unit he is in?
"Curious, what makes you think hybrid? Looks 100% mule deer to me"
3nails has it right. The stripe on the tail. Muledeer have a black tip, Blacktail have an all black tail and Hybrids have different variations between the 2. Crossbreeds are a lot like people. 5 kids in a family, some look more like dad and some look more like mom. Ive hunted bench bucks all my life and they all have different characteristics but the tail is a sure give a way
Post by: Dan-o on November 11, 2019, 01:53:24 PM
I'd shoot that buck in the first 20 seconds of legal shooting time.
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2019, 02:09:10 PM
Post by: npaull on November 11, 2019, 02:45:05 PM
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3nails has it right. The stripe on the tail. Muledeer have a black tip, Blacktail have an all black tail and Hybrids have different variations between the 2. Crossbreeds are a lot like people. 5 kids in a family, some look more like dad and some look more like mom. Ive hunted bench bucks all my life and they all have different characteristics but the tail is a sure give a way
This is simplistic, and depends what you mean by "hybrid." There is plenty of potential for small genetic variation to produce the tail seen here in a mule deer who doesn't have any blacktail in their ancestry for generations. Similarly, it is possible that this deer has a great-great-great something that was a blacktail. But I strongly doubt that it had a parent that was a blacktail, and there is nothing about this tail coloration which requires that as an explanation.
Post by: Ironhead on November 11, 2019, 03:02:21 PM
AndrewLots of Muleys have a slight stripe on their tails, not at all uncommon.
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Thats a really nice Hybrid, curious what unit he is in?
"Curious, what makes you think hybrid? Looks 100% mule deer to me"
3nails has it right. The stripe on the tail. Muledeer have a black tip, Blacktail have an all black tail and Hybrids have different variations between the 2. Crossbreeds are a lot like people. 5 kids in a family, some look more like dad and some look more like mom. Ive hunted bench bucks all my life and they all have different characteristics but the tail is a sure give a way
Post by: zwickeyman on November 11, 2019, 03:29:33 PM
Maybe Doug will chime in
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 11, 2019, 03:35:23 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 11, 2019, 03:37:00 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on November 11, 2019, 03:37:27 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 11, 2019, 03:40:02 PM
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on November 11, 2019, 03:40:20 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on November 11, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2019, 04:49:48 PM
All depends on the unit . If that's a late season tag around my area it's dead. Entiat , Methow , Firing Center I would hold out , then regret it later . :chuckle:
If you wait 15+ years for a Wenatchee Valley or Methow Valley quality tag, that buck is never considered...IMO...even on the last day. :twocents:
There are plenty of “buck tags” that will produce a good hunt where you can find bucks like that.
Everyone has their opinion of what a “quality buck” is, and too each their own. But if you are looking for a true “quality” buck, you have to be willing to pass bucks like this and maybe eat your tag...if you are going to find one of those special bucks you see guys post every year. :dunno:
As far as blacktail highbred, um no! :rolleyes:
Post by: jackelope on November 11, 2019, 04:59:29 PM
......yet.
Post by: Gentrys on November 11, 2019, 05:06:22 PM
Post by: lewy on November 11, 2019, 05:09:27 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 11, 2019, 05:19:54 PM
With that much time left no way, how often do you get to hunt the mule deer rut here?! I’d be enjoying the next week and a half out hunting :twocents::yeah:
Post by: Odell on November 11, 2019, 05:27:52 PM
Its about the unit plus what you want to get out of it
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 11, 2019, 06:16:36 PM
Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. It only matters what you think. Why bother asking? Not trying to be antagonizing, but I think you're stressing and overthinking it, and don't think you're clear about what matters in a hunt. Good luck to you!
You would be wrong on all of what you said, - except it does only matter what I think.
It was just a question, lighten up. :twocents:
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 11, 2019, 06:25:29 PM
Post by: TVHunts on November 11, 2019, 06:52:34 PM
Send one!!
Agreed!
Post by: X-Force on November 11, 2019, 07:23:56 PM
Rifle and muzzleloader no.
But you have to be willing to eat a tag too.
Post by: sagerat on November 11, 2019, 07:39:04 PM
Post by: npaull on November 12, 2019, 10:28:11 AM
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It was just a question, lighten up.
Sorry man it's always hard to get tone across on a forum post. I was trying to convey a sense of support for however you called it, not a "don't bother us with your questions" kind of attitude. Glad you're enjoying the tag.
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 12, 2019, 10:35:40 AM
QuoteIt was just a question, lighten up.
Sorry man it's always hard to get tone across on a forum post. I was trying to convey a sense of support for however you called it, not a "don't bother us with your questions" kind of attitude. Glad you're enjoying the tag.
No worries it’s all good. Just fired me up when ya said something about you didn’t think I knew what I wanted out of this hunt. I do exactly, getting to hunt during the rut, very few people, being able to pick and choose, that’s what it’s all about for me. Quality hunting, not quality killing..... But yeah I do want to do that too :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 12, 2019, 01:17:49 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 12, 2019, 01:34:30 PM
I would congratulate you if you killed him, and I'm happy you passed with plenty of hunting left. I don't agree with don't pass on the first day what you would shoot on the last; I've done many hunts where I passed "better" bucks and was completely happy ending my hunt with a meat deer. Wring every drop of enjoyment out of that rare quality rut experience, I guarantee that you will enjoy every memory of the hunt and remember every buck you considered shooting when you look at that rack for the rest of your life, whether it's a masher or a fat little forky.That's a great perspective that I hadn't thought of. Pass on day one, enjoy every minute of the hunt and fill the tag on the last day with whatever is available. Great experience, great memories and meat in the freezer at the end. Thanks for pointing that out. I had never thought of it that way.
Post by: WSU on November 12, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 12, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
I would congratulate you if you killed him, and I'm happy you passed with plenty of hunting left. I don't agree with don't pass on the first day what you would shoot on the last; I've done many hunts where I passed "better" bucks and was completely happy ending my hunt with a meat deer. Wring every drop of enjoyment out of that rare quality rut experience, I guarantee that you will enjoy every memory of the hunt and remember every buck you considered shooting when you look at that rack for the rest of your life, whether it's a masher or a fat little forky.
This is my plan, and having a blast.
I’m not seeing the quantity of bigger bucks like I thought I would, but I’m also not seeing a gigantic pumpkin patch.
Post by: WSU on November 12, 2019, 02:13:18 PM
Post by: jrebel on November 12, 2019, 02:14:26 PM
Post by: C-Money on November 12, 2019, 02:45:01 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 12, 2019, 07:16:46 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 12, 2019, 07:23:58 PM
I would congratulate you if you killed him, and I'm happy you passed with plenty of hunting left. I don't agree with don't pass on the first day what you would shoot on the last; I've done many hunts where I passed "better" bucks and was completely happy ending my hunt with a meat deer. Wring every drop of enjoyment out of that rare quality rut experience, I guarantee that you will enjoy every memory of the hunt and remember every buck you considered shooting when you look at that rack for the rest of your life, whether it's a masher or a fat little forky.That's a great perspective that I hadn't thought of. Pass on day one, enjoy every minute of the hunt and fill the tag on the last day with whatever is available. Great experience, great memories and meat in the freezer at the end. Thanks for pointing that out. I had never thought of it that way.
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But if I saw a masher two point, it’s all over.🤣
Post by: snit on November 13, 2019, 10:21:13 PM
I would congratulate you if you killed him, and I'm happy you passed with plenty of hunting left. I don't agree with don't pass on the first day what you would shoot on the last; I've done many hunts where I passed "better" bucks and was completely happy ending my hunt with a meat deer. Wring every drop of enjoyment out of that rare quality rut experience, I guarantee that you will enjoy every memory of the hunt and remember every buck you considered shooting when you look at that rack for the rest of your life, whether it's a masher or a fat little forky.
THIS quote sums it up for me!! I've hunted all or some part of 11 of the last 13 days, and I have the remainder of the season off (open through 11/20) for Mission rifle. I haven't seen a buck that has even excited me YET, but Istill have hope! Plus, I've been having an absolute BLAST (I should be after 22 years of applying)! Leaving early and getting home late, planning my next day, etc. I sure wish the weather would cooperate more, but it's still all good. IF I'm down to the last day I might shoot a meat buck close to town late in the afternoon, but it'll be a dink! I won't even shoot a "decent" buck, it'll be a dumb one that will probably get hit by a car anyhow. That's my theory anyway, why kill a buck that's survived 3.5-4.5 years just to settle for a "decent" one that would be tossed on the horn pile on the porch at my place, when I can shoot a tender one to eat?
I'm not judging, "To each their own". Have a great rest of your hunt fellas!
Post by: huntnphool on November 13, 2019, 11:36:42 PM
I would congratulate you if you killed him, and I'm happy you passed with plenty of hunting left. I don't agree with don't pass on the first day what you would shoot on the last; I've done many hunts where I passed "better" bucks and was completely happy ending my hunt with a meat deer. Wring every drop of enjoyment out of that rare quality rut experience, I guarantee that you will enjoy every memory of the hunt and remember every buck you considered shooting when you look at that rack for the rest of your life, whether it's a masher or a fat little forky.
THIS quote sums it up for me!! I've hunted all or some part of 11 of the last 13 days, and I have the remainder of the season off (open through 11/20) for Mission rifle. I haven't seen a buck that has even excited me YET, but Istill have hope! Plus, I've been having an absolute BLAST (I should be after 22 years of applying)! Leaving early and getting home late, planning my next day, etc. I sure wish the weather would cooperate more, but it's still all good. IF I'm down to the last day I might shoot a meat buck close to town late in the afternoon, but it'll be a dink! I won't even shoot a "decent" buck, it'll be a dumb one that will probably get hit by a car anyhow. That's my theory anyway, why kill a buck that's survived 3.5-4.5 years just to settle for a "decent" one that would be tossed on the horn pile on the porch at my place, when I can shoot a tender one to eat?
I'm not judging, "To each their own". Have a great rest of your hunt fellas!
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