Post by: Commando on November 19, 2019, 08:13:04 PM
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Post by: Dan-o on November 19, 2019, 08:21:14 PM
IMO, the 30-06 is realllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly hard to beat for an all around gun.
Especially for elk and bear, I'd prefer the 30 with something a little heavier than the 270 throws.
Good luck with your decision.
Post by: 270Shooter on November 19, 2019, 08:29:08 PM
Post by: Dan-o on November 19, 2019, 08:48:32 PM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
Agreed.
My only high powered rifle for my first 15 years of hunting was a 270.
Love that round.
But for an all around cartridge, I personally would take a 30-06.
They are both nice rounds.
Post by: h20hunter on November 19, 2019, 08:52:41 PM
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 19, 2019, 08:56:25 PM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
Look up Jack O'Conner and his accomplishments with the .270. Model 70 Winchester in .270 was and is my first and favorite rifle. Every round I've shot down the pipe I've personally reloaded.
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 19, 2019, 09:00:23 PM
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Post by: Dan-o on November 19, 2019, 09:15:24 PM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
Look up Jack O'Conner and his accomplishments with the .270. Model 70 Winchester in .270 was and is my first and favorite rifle. Every round I've shot down the pipe I've personally reloaded.
HA!
When I was 15, I scoured the earth for a cheap used beat up old Model 70 in 270 because I read O'Conner.
I bet I polished it a thousand times the first year I owned it.
I don't think I've put that much trust in a writer before or since.
The Model 70 in 270 was mythical.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 19, 2019, 09:16:28 PM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
Look up Jack O'Conner and his accomplishments with the .270. Model 70 Winchester in .270 was and is my first and favorite rifle. Every round I've shot down the pipe I've personally reloaded.
HA!
When I was 15, I scoured the earth for a cheap used beat up old Model 70 in 270 because I read O'Conner.
I bet I polished it a thousand times the first year I owned it.
I don't think I've put that much trust in a writer before or since.
The Model 70 in 270 was mythical.
Very true. :tup:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 19, 2019, 09:32:55 PM
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Post by: huntnphool on November 19, 2019, 11:15:08 PM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
+1
Post by: jasnt on November 19, 2019, 11:51:42 PM
Post by: Commando on November 20, 2019, 04:35:17 AM
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Post by: huntnphool on November 20, 2019, 06:48:29 AM
https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/jim-casada/2007/09/remembering-jack-oconnor/
Post by: KP-Skagit on November 20, 2019, 07:10:17 AM
Personally I won a 30-06 in a raffle so shoot that (before I was a 30-30 guy). Debated going to a 270 but with a couple dozen animals on the 30-06 I can't hang it up.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 20, 2019, 07:52:44 AM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
+1
That's what I use in my Rem 700 Mountain rifle. With scope, it weighs around 7 pounds.
Post by: G-S on November 20, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
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Post by: Wunderlich33 on November 20, 2019, 08:39:28 AM
Great all around gun
Post by: konradcountry on November 20, 2019, 11:36:21 AM
I'd go 7-08 or 6.5 for the short action.
I would look at the Mossberg Patriot. I prefer the action in it over the Tikka.
I'd look at the Patriot or American and put more money into the scope.
Post by: plentycoupe on November 20, 2019, 11:52:44 AM
Years ago I wanted to switch from the expensive ultra mags and settled on the .270 Tikka Superlite.
I shoot factory Barnes 130grn TSX and have killed moose, bear, elk, deer, caribou, coyotes and pigs with it.
I am happy I changed over and just make sure on the bigger animals the shot angle is right.
You will be happy if you do your part and shoot straight!
Post by: Matth on November 20, 2019, 12:04:39 PM
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Post by: Alchase on November 20, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
Millions of 270 users over the years can't be wrong! You won't impress the big bore & magnum crowds, but I'll bet you make all the impression you need to on deer, elk and bear.
I am one of the "big bore magnum crowd" :hello:
:chuckle:
Honestly everything from a .243, 6.5, 7mm, 30-06, 7mm-08, 300 WM (or any of the 300 variations) all would be great for a all around rifle.
We can tell you what we prefer, if one kicks harder than another, how available a particular caliber ammo is.
It is all about your preference.
To answer your question, yes the .270 would do just fine for anything in North America.
Post by: brew on November 20, 2019, 06:30:46 PM
so what you are saying is if you spend 20 years saving for a brown bear hunt on the Kenai you would choose to take your 270 ?Millions of 270 users over the years can't be wrong! You won't impress the big bore & magnum crowds, but I'll bet you make all the impression you need to on deer, elk and bear.
I am one of the "big bore magnum crowd" :hello:
:chuckle:
Honestly everything from a .243, 6.5, 7mm, 30-06, 7mm-08, 300 WM (or any of the 300 variations) all would be great for a all around rifle.
We can tell you what we prefer, if one kicks harder than another, how available a particular caliber ammo is.
It is all about your preference.
To answer your question, yes the .270 would do just fine for anything in North America.
Post by: Bofire on November 20, 2019, 06:45:52 PM
Carl
Post by: Dan-o on November 20, 2019, 06:47:56 PM
so what you are saying is if you spend 20 years saving for a brown bear hunt on the Kenai you would choose to take your 270 ?Millions of 270 users over the years can't be wrong! You won't impress the big bore & magnum crowds, but I'll bet you make all the impression you need to on deer, elk and bear.
I am one of the "big bore magnum crowd" :hello:
:chuckle:
Honestly everything from a .243, 6.5, 7mm, 30-06, 7mm-08, 300 WM (or any of the 300 variations) all would be great for a all around rifle.
We can tell you what we prefer, if one kicks harder than another, how available a particular caliber ammo is.
It is all about your preference.
To answer your question, yes the .270 would do just fine for anything in North America.
He might take his 243.... It's a tack driver.
Post by: jrebel on November 20, 2019, 06:51:04 PM
.270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
This was my go to recipe for deer, elk and bear for most of my rifle hunting. It was great gun to 400 yards. I now shoot a 300 win mag....well just because. I still own the .270 and would have no problem using for any animal in north america. I saw a moose killed with one two years ago and the moose only made it 40 yards. :tup: :tup:
Post by: Igor on November 20, 2019, 07:02:05 PM
I would not let me using a 270 hold me back from a brown bear hunt. I think it is a fine choice for all round use
Carl
I have had my Winchester Featherweight in .270 Win for 35 years. I have killed more than a few deer with it. My favorite reload is 55 gr. of IMR 4350, pushing a 150 Nosler Partition, which is a perfect load for deer. I consider it a little light for elk and have a .300 Rem. Mag. for that purpose. I would not recommend a .270 for brown bears, and I'd be willing to bet that if you showed up for a guided brown bear hunt with a .270, your guide would not be pleased.
Post by: Alchase on November 20, 2019, 07:22:38 PM
so what you are saying is if you spend 20 years saving for a brown bear hunt on the Kenai you would choose to take your 270 ?Millions of 270 users over the years can't be wrong! You won't impress the big bore & magnum crowds, but I'll bet you make all the impression you need to on deer, elk and bear.
I am one of the "big bore magnum crowd" :hello:
:chuckle:
Honestly everything from a .243, 6.5, 7mm, 30-06, 7mm-08, 300 WM (or any of the 300 variations) all would be great for a all around rifle.
We can tell you what we prefer, if one kicks harder than another, how available a particular caliber ammo is.
It is all about your preference.
To answer your question, yes the .270 would do just fine for anything in North America.
He might take his 243.... It's a tack driver.
:tup:
I would take my .243 WSSM just because I am a "big bore
or magnum crowd" :tup:
:chuckle:
To answer Brews question:
I would probably take my Sako Finlight 300 Win Mag, my current go to everything rifle, for a Brown bear hunt. But That is my "preference", and I have many rifles, and many calibers to choose from.
But that does not disprove the point that anyone of those calibers are more than capable.
FYI, the chance of me ever getting a brown bear hunt are pretty much non-existent.
:hello:
Post by: 270Shooter on November 20, 2019, 07:50:04 PM
I too have a 300 that I will take along for the little bit of elk hunting I do and I’ve shot 1 deer with it, I was shooting 180 gr accubonds and it made a pretty good mess of that deer granted I hit him a little far forward than I would have liked. Now I only hunt deer with the 270 and those 150 partitions kill them really quick and I hardly ever see any bloodshot meat..270 and some 150 grain nosler partitions hits pretty hard
This was my go to recipe for deer, elk and bear for most of my rifle hunting. It was great gun to 400 yards. I now shoot a 300 win mag....well just because. I still own the .270 and would have no problem using for any animal in north america. I saw a moose killed with one two years ago and the moose only made it 40 yards. :tup: :tup:
Post by: MADMAX on November 20, 2019, 07:55:48 PM
Love them both for anything
Great shooters
Post by: Jimmy33 on November 20, 2019, 07:59:09 PM
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Post by: Curly on November 22, 2019, 04:11:54 AM
I would not let me using a 270 hold me back from a brown bear hunt. I think it is a fine choice for all round use
Carl
I have had my Winchester Featherweight in .270 Win for 35 years. I have killed more than a few deer with it. My favorite reload is 55 gr. of IMR 4350, pushing a 150 Nosler Partition, which is a perfect load for deer. I consider it a little light for elk and have a .300 Rem. Mag. for that purpose. I would not recommend a .270 for brown bears, and I'd be willing to bet that if you showed up for a guided brown bear hunt with a .270, your guide would not be pleased.
Did you mean .300 win mag?
Post by: C-Money on November 22, 2019, 08:15:49 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on November 22, 2019, 09:05:01 AM
I would not let me using a 270 hold me back from a brown bear hunt. I think it is a fine choice for all round use
Carl
My buddy from Alaska actually harvested his brown bear with a 270, along with multiple moose over the years. It was a hunt and not a defensive shot, which is very different. Broadside shot into the vitals. And his hunting partners had bigger rifles as backup, but weren't needed. Residents, so no guide to complain about the caliber choice.
He has other rifles, but his 270 is his favorite. And it is a beautiful old rifle, and I can't blame him for choosing it most of the time.
I harvested my first deer in the early 80s with my brothers 270. Great caliber, and pretty much all you need in the lower 48. My family has taken elk with it just fine, granted we've taken elk with 30-30, 7.7Jap, etc. smaller calibers over the years.
I personally wouldn't take it on a brown bear hunt because I have bigger calibers....but if it's the only rifle you had it would get the job done.....but let's be honest if you're not a resident of Alaska you're paying $15K-$20K for guide/travel/tag/etc. to hunt that brown bear and the cost of a second rifle in a bigger caliber for that one hunt is a small cost compared to the total cost of that trip...…get the 270 and if you ever decide to do a brown bear hunt you have a good excuse to buy another rifle.
Post by: Bob33 on November 22, 2019, 09:07:59 AM
In reality, all legal big game calibers will work just fine in the vast majority of cases. For elk calibers I wouldn’t choose a .243 but they work with proper bullet and shot placement.
In my opinion too much emphasis is often placed on caliber. The ability to find game and put bullets in the right location when found are usually far more important to harvesting game than a few thousandths of an inch here and there.
Post by: konradcountry on November 22, 2019, 11:30:35 AM
In my opinion too much emphasis is often placed on caliber. The ability to find game and put bullets in the right location when found are usually far more important to harvesting game than a few thousandths of an inch here and there.
But that makes it sound like the caliber difference is trivial.
The 270 will have around 50% more energy than a 243 at 300 yards.
Post by: huntnphool on November 22, 2019, 11:34:51 AM
Post by: Igor on November 22, 2019, 11:41:41 AM
I would not let me using a 270 hold me back from a brown bear hunt. I think it is a fine choice for all round use
Carl
I have had my Winchester Featherweight in .270 Win for 35 years. I have killed more than a few deer with it. My favorite reload is 55 gr. of IMR 4350, pushing a 150 Nosler Partition, which is a perfect load for deer. I consider it a little light for elk and have a .300 Rem. Mag. for that purpose. I would not recommend a .270 for brown bears, and I'd be willing to bet that if you showed up for a guided brown bear hunt with a .270, your guide would not be pleased.
Did you mean .300 win mag?
Yep. Kinda shortened it.......it's a Remington 700 .300 Win mag.
Post by: Bob33 on November 22, 2019, 11:41:55 AM
A 243 has more than enough energy to kill deer cleanly at 300 yards.In my opinion too much emphasis is often placed on caliber. The ability to find game and put bullets in the right location when found are usually far more important to harvesting game than a few thousandths of an inch here and there.
But that makes it sound like the caliber difference is trivial.
The 270 will have around 50% more energy than a 243 at 300 yards.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 22, 2019, 12:21:09 PM
Post by: b23 on November 22, 2019, 12:29:27 PM
I'd shoot just about anything with a .270! It's a workhorse if there ever was one. Let's not get out in the weeds here guys. Griz are so far out in left field for 99% of hunters that it shouldn't even be brought up in conversation. And let's be honest, if you can afford a griz hunt then you can afford a second rifle more suited to the task. :tup:
I'd say that pretty accurately sums it up. :tup:
Post by: Commando on November 23, 2019, 10:04:45 AM
Post by: Igor on November 23, 2019, 10:12:37 AM
thanks for all the continued info guys. I can't wait to get this rifle! I've got a question on scopes... Id like to get the Leupold vx-3i scope but can't decide between the 2.5-8 or the 3.5-10. I'm thinking th 2.5 since ill be mostly staying on the west side.... what your thoughts?
For years I hunted with a Leupold 2.5-8 on my Winchester Featherweight. These old eyes needed a little more magnification, so I went to the 3.5-10. I would recommend the higher magnification.
Post by: Bob33 on November 23, 2019, 10:14:28 AM
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Post by: nwwanderer on November 23, 2019, 03:53:52 PM
If you want something with a bunch of ammo around you can not go wrong. Want something different? Look at 6.5 PRC
Post by: Igor on November 23, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
The .270 being a long action, would make me consider the 3.5-10 due to it’s longer tube for more flexible mounting options. I do have a vx3 2.5-8 on my Ruger m77 30-06, it fits but if I had needed to adjust it much, I would probably need extension rings. Not an issue if you have something with a rail. The 2.5-8x is a great scope for sure, though.
I have the 3.5-10 mounted on my Winchester Featherweight with a Leupold 1-piece base and Leupold low rings.
Post by: Commando on November 23, 2019, 04:39:59 PM
I didn’t realize maven made a 2.5-10... anyone have any experience with them?
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on November 30, 2019, 12:11:16 PM
I’m thinking of picking up my first rifle. Always been a archery and shot gun guy. Would the 270 be a good all round gun? Thinking of getting a tikka tx3 or super lite. Like I said general all around gun but with the idea of it also doubling as a bear gun on the west side. Thoughts?The .270 Winchester is an excellent all around hunting cartridge, especially in a quality rifle like the Tikka T3. I don't personally hunt with the .270, but there's nothing wrong with it and I know a few hunters who have taken game like elk, kudu, zebra, blue wildebeest, caribou, and even moose with a .270 with absolutely no problems whatsoever. Some people think it's a little light for really big game, but the .270 Winchester will get the job done if you use good bullets and place your shots where they need to go.
Below are a couple of detailed comparisons of the .270 to other popular big game hunting cartridges if you'd like a little more information to help yo make up your mind.
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/25-06-vs-6-5-creedmoor-vs-270/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/270-vs-308/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/270-vs-30-06/